Sharp Camcorder VL-NZ159U in W7?

On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:03:13 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Paul
writes:
[]
file transfer. For file transfer, the USB Mass Storage
(or later, MTP protocol) is used to move images. But
[]
Is "MTP protocol" an example of PNS syndrome?

I had to look up PNS syndrome and initially landed at a set of pages related
to Paraneoplastic Neurologic Syndrome, which in itself is an example of PNS
syndrome, but I only know that because I kept searching until I ran across
RAS syndrome, which eventually led me to PNS syndrome, and now I know WTH
you're talking about. :-)

So, yes.

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Char Jackson

On 14 Sep 2014 Char Jackson wrote:

On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:03:13 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Paul
writes:
[]
file transfer. For file transfer, the USB Mass Storage
(or later, MTP protocol) is used to move images. But
[]
Is "MTP protocol" an example of PNS syndrome?

I had to look up PNS syndrome and initially landed at a set of pages related
to Paraneoplastic Neurologic Syndrome, which in itself is an example of PNS
syndrome, but I only know that because I kept searching until I ran across
RAS syndrome, which eventually led me to PNS syndrome, and now I know WTH
you're talking about. :-)

So, yes.

I know it as RAS Syndrome. Redundant Acronym syndrome syndrome.

Peter.

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Peter Young and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul writes:
[]
file transfer. For file transfer, the USB Mass Storage
(or later, MTP protocol) is used to move images. But
[]
Is "MTP protocol" an example of PNS syndrome?

It's not germane to this thread, but here it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol

Paul

On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 19:33:58 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:27:38 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

I haven't seen you say that your W7 PC has a FireWire port.

If indeed there's no FireWire port on the W7 machine, then I can say
with confidence that you won't be able to load the video from the
camcorder.

Agreed

Yes I have an added 3-port firewire PCI card added, reflected in W7
Device Manager.

JW

OK, sorry to have failed to assume enough :-)

And sorry that I can't offer some actual help...

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 08:48:13 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 19:33:58 -0400, wrote:


Yes I have an added 3-port firewire PCI card added, reflected in W7
Device Manager.

JW

This AM I tried recording a video clip on the camcorder cassette
again. Then I connected firewire cable from the camcorder to my W7 PC
and tried to upload the clip as before. This time the PC's autoplay
showed:

Capture your home video in various formats using AVS Video Recorder
Start Encoding
Record Video
Edit and Record Video

I chose the first (which was the default)

It brought up AVS Video Recorder (which I had installed in the past),
and selected 'start capture'. It captured the video quite nicely to
W7 PC's c:\users\mae\captured_file_001.dv after which I selected 'stop
capture' in AVS Video Recorder. Then I converted the .dv file to .avi
for retention. Great!

I thought to re-try uploading photo pics from the camcorder to my W7
PC, which failed yesterday. I see that Device Manager still picks up
the camcorder as an 'unknown device' under 'other devces'. However, I
still cannot install the XP drivers on the W7 PC. And so, it still
looks like I need special driver for W7 - which may not be available.

Oh well....

JW

That's good news on the FireWire front.

And I assume you can remove the SD card from the camcorder and plug it
into a card reader.

I am curious why the USB card reader doesn't load, though. Maybe it's
just too old and fell off the list.

BTW, I do sometimes see things labeled as Unknown Device that work
anyway...

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 13:58:33 -0400, Paul wrote:

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul writes:
[]
file transfer. For file transfer, the USB Mass Storage
(or later, MTP protocol) is used to move images. But
[]
Is "MTP protocol" an example of PNS syndrome?

It's not germane to this thread, but here it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol

Paul

Which ended up reminding me that pleonasm and neoplasm are anagrams of
each other.

One is redundant language, the other is (arguably) redundant tissue.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:33:13 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:


That's good news on the FireWire front.

And I assume you can remove the SD card from the camcorder and plug it
into a card reader.

I handn't thought of that. Since I can make the USP work on my XP PC
I left it at that.


I am curious why the USB card reader doesn't load, though. Maybe it's
just too old and fell off the list.

2002 give or take.


BTW, I do sometimes see things labeled as Unknown Device that work
anyway...

I have run out of ideas.

JW

On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:28:59 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:


OK, sorry to have failed to assume enough :-)

And sorry that I can't offer some actual help...


Hey - don't apologize.
I appreciate your inputs
JW

wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:33:13 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

That's good news on the FireWire front.

And I assume you can remove the SD card from the camcorder and plug it
into a card reader.

I handn't thought of that. Since I can make the USP work on my XP PC
I left it at that.

I am curious why the USB card reader doesn't load, though. Maybe it's
just too old and fell off the list.

2002 give or take.

BTW, I do sometimes see things labeled as Unknown Device that work
anyway...

I have run out of ideas.

JW

Did the USBtreeview show anything ?

If the device isn't negotiating properly at startup,
then no "Endpoints" form. If there are Endpoints, then
config info becomes available and then you can check
out what Class the device is. If it is a Class the OS
has a driver for, then it should work.

Paul

On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 19:11:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:33:13 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:


That's good news on the FireWire front.

And I assume you can remove the SD card from the camcorder and plug it
into a card reader.

I handn't thought of that. Since I can make the USP work on my XP PC
I left it at that.


I am curious why the USB card reader doesn't load, though. Maybe it's
just too old and fell off the list.

2002 give or take.


BTW, I do sometimes see things labeled as Unknown Device that work
anyway...

I have run out of ideas.

JW

But at least you seem to have a workable situation, so hang in there :-)

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)