Which motherboard no much expensive for Pentium IV 2,8 GHz FSB 800 MHz?

Hi,
I'd like to buy ASUS P4C800 Deluxe for
INTEL Pentium IV 2,8 GHz FSB 800 MHz but in Italy t cost very much:
Euro 261.07
Is there another good motherboard a little bit less expensieve working
with 875P chip-set?
Thanks Fogar

He listed prices in EURO, Pricewatch.com, Newegg, ect.... dont count over
here
but the board he listed does look highly overpriced, considering he can buy
from ALL of the EU without much hassle then I wouldnt pay that price


"Paul" wrote in message news:nospam-n
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In article ,
wrote:

Hi,
I'd like to buy ASUS P4C800 Deluxe for
INTEL Pentium IV 2,8 GHz FSB 800 MHz but in Italy t cost very much:
Euro 261.07
Is there another good motherboard a little bit less expensieve working
with 875P chip-set?
Thanks Fogar

http://appzone.cps.intel.com/boards/index.asp (Intel 875P Chipset)

If you select 875P, the search engine will return 29 different models
of motherboards that use the 875P. So, there are plenty of motherboards
to examine.

Next, go to pricewatch.com and search using the two terms "875P
motherboard"
The cheapest motherboard listed there is Abit IC7.

Comparing prices at Newegg.com (not because I buy from them, but because
they have nice pictures of the products they sell...)

Abit IC7 (no LAN connector, 2 SATA) - $137.00
Abit IC7-G (gigabit LAN, 4 SATA) - $195.00
Asus P4C800 Deluxe - $187.99
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe - $225.99

Now, compare the pictures of the products:

This is Abit IC7 -

http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage....127-153-11.JPG

This is P4C800 Deluxe -

http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage....131-449-08.JPG

The IC7 has no LAN interface, so you will need a cheap LAN card for
$10 or $15.

Compare features carefully before buying :-)

Another option, would be to get a 865P based motherboard. Newegg lists
these as follows:

Asus P4P800 - $123.99
Asus P4P800 Deluxe - $145.99

Hope that helps,
Paul

Fogar:

Have read the minimum requirements for the video capture sub-system ?

PC Minimum Requirements
---------------------------
2 free PCI V2.1 Slots
Dual 450MHz Pentium III CPUs
256MB RAM
AV rated hard disk drive (10MB/sec min. sustained transfer)
CD-ROM Drive
Windows XP, Windows ME or Windows 2000 operating system
Microsoft® IntelliMouse® or compatible
Graphics card with hardware DirectDraw overlay

Reference
http://www.canopus.com/us/products/d...ofessional.asp

At $4,4000 for the DVRex, don't skimp on the platform.

It requires a "DUAL CPU" motherboard and AV rated disk sub-system. A P4 2.8GHz
motherboard is not the same as a Dual PIII/450Mhz. You seem to be looking at
SINGLE CPU systems !
You posted about max. 100MB/s disk subsystem. You need to make sure it can
provide a sustained 10MB/s data-stream. Not burst. I strongly suggest SCSI.
At least a U160 SCSI hard disk and an Adaptec 19160 SCSI controller.


Dave




"Fogar" wrote in message
...
| Hi,
| I'd like to buy ASUS P4C800 Deluxe for
| INTEL Pentium IV 2,8 GHz FSB 800 MHz but in Italy t cost very much:
| Euro 261.07
| Is there another good motherboard a little bit less expensieve working
| with 875P chip-set?
| Thanks Fogar

Hi Fogar, Parlo soltanto inglese. Sto usando un luogo di traduzione di
lingua. Inglese Ad Italiano. http://babelfish.altavista.com/ Ho avuto il
P4C800 deluxe da Asus e relativo non una buona cartolina. Asus non ha
effettuato il relativo a bordo delle caratteristiche in un senso che è
facile da usare a maggior parte aggiornare del loro PC. I RMA'd la mia
cartolina ed intende ripeterlo se il rimontaggio non è sufficiente. Prendo
l'offesa particolare a Asus usando il southbridge Promise/ICH5. Inoltre mi
sono rovesciato che non hanno fornito un pannello anteriore per il USBs
anteriore. Sono rovesciato che il dissipatore di calore del circuito
integrato di FSB non ha ventilatore. Non gradisco il AGP pro 8x, il relativo
overkill. Non ci è oggi disponibile delle schede e prolly in avvenire quello
userà "la pro" scanalatura. Se ci è, vorrei qualcuno situarlo, qui con un
URL. Risparmi i vostri soldi. Non ottenga questa scheda, relativo costruita
male. Ma non posso suggerire un i875, perché li penso sono tutto costruito
male. Ci non è una buona azienda della cartolina base nel commercio, oggi.
Brad

"Fogar" wrote in message
...
Hi,
I'd like to buy ASUS P4C800 Deluxe for
INTEL Pentium IV 2,8 GHz FSB 800 MHz but in Italy t cost very much:
Euro 261.07
Is there another good motherboard a little bit less expensieve working
with 875P chip-set?
Thanks Fogar

Fogar, Non conosco che cosa Dave sta dicendo. Ma trovando un professionista
nella città capitale della Pensilvania, Harrisburg, il relativo impossibile.
Avendo uno dialo che una dimostrazione personale è giusta una fantasia. Non
conosco la situazione nella vostra città in Italia. Potete desiderare
visitare il Web site del Canopus e metterseli in contatto con per
assistenza. Possono avere un rappresentante di zona per l'Italia. Non so.
Tuttavia, una cosa che potete trovare utile sapere è che il microprocessore
P4 800 ha Hyperthreading(HT). Questa caratteristica è realmente una
caratteristica del multiprocessore. Il beneficio di esso è esso duplica i
filetti. L'OS riconosce il sistema come avendo P4 multiplo 800s, quindi il
P4C800 deluxe con i raduni funzionanti di P4 800 un WinXP il vostro
requisito di una cartolina doppia P3 con soltanto un P4, a causa di
tecnologia di HT. Dovete usare Windows XP tuttavia per potere usare la
caratteristica di HT. Più vecchio OSs non sostiene HT. Ho avuto una
probabilità guardare il professionista di DVRex RT, da Canopus. Non lo
metterei in un P4C800 deluxe. Lo metterei in un P4c800-e. Dovrà presto
essere liberato. Il motivo è, voi saturerà il vostro circuito integrato del
PCI controller/ICH5 delle cartoline base. Desidererete una cartolina base
con il regolatore modificato del southbridge di ICH5R. È più veloce e
maneggia le mansioni più meglio, particolarmente se il vostro collegamento
di rete è nei gigabytes. Purtroppo, qui l'azienda del telefono fornisce
soltanto ancora il rame alle case, in modo da sono attaccato nei kilobytes.
"Paul" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

When I have read your post I was very worried, but the PC Minimum
Requirements is for DVRex RT Professional.
I have a DVRex RT no professional and I think one processor is ok.
I hope. You can tell me something?
Thanks Fogar

Fogar:

You are going to spend a lot of money on a video editing system. Whoever
sells you the DVRex-RT is going to make a good profit - why aren't you
getting your hardware consultation from your dealer ? You could be making
a very expensive mistake.

If I am purchasing hardware worth $4000, I would want to take my video
source material to the dealership, and get a demonstration of what the
hardware can do. During the demonstration, ask the dealer what kind of
computing power is required and how fast the storage system has to be.
Certain of the effects on this system will be done totally in hardware,
while the more exotic effects will be done in software - that is when
a fast processor is necessary. I don't know anything about video, but
I do know that to prevent thrashing of the disk heads, you should have
a "source disk" and a "destination disk". These can each be either a
single disk or each source and destination could be a two disk array
(i.e. four disks total for editing). The requirements on the disk can
be reduced by increasing the compression ratio, but that isn't why you
spend $4000 on a system like this, to get compromised image quality.

So, if you have no clue about what you are doing, get a professional
to build a system for you. If they have built a number of systems, and
this professional can give you references to people who are happy with
the system they have received, then you will have a good user experience.

It is fine to ask us a few questions about Asus motherboards, but this
group doesn't specialize in video, and we don't do professional
consulting for free. You are likely to get very bad and amateur
answers from us about video, so make your dealer earn his money.

Paul


Fogar:

Have read the minimum requirements for the video capture sub-system ?

PC Minimum Requirements
---------------------------
2 free PCI V2.1 Slots
Dual 450MHz Pentium III CPUs
256MB RAM
AV rated hard disk drive (10MB/sec min. sustained transfer)
CD-ROM Drive
Windows XP, Windows ME or Windows 2000 operating system
Microsoft® IntelliMouse® or compatible
Graphics card with hardware DirectDraw overlay

Reference


http://www.canopus.com/us/products/d...vrex-rt_profes
sional.asp

At $4,4000 for the DVRex, don't skimp on the platform.

It requires a "DUAL CPU" motherboard and AV rated disk sub-system. A
P4 2.8GHz
motherboard is not the same as a Dual PIII/450Mhz. You seem to be
looking at
SINGLE CPU systems !
You posted about max. 100MB/s disk subsystem. You need to make sure it
can
provide a sustained 10MB/s data-stream. Not burst. I strongly suggest
SCSI.
At least a U160 SCSI hard disk and an Adaptec 19160 SCSI controller.


Dave




"Fogar" wrote in message
.. .
| Hi,
| I'd like to buy ASUS P4C800 Deluxe for
| INTEL Pentium IV 2,8 GHz FSB 800 MHz but in Italy t cost very much:
| Euro 261.07
| Is there another good motherboard a little bit less expensieve
working
| with 875P chip-set?
| Thanks Fogar

In article ink.net,
"BNR" wrote:

Fogar, Non conosco che cosa Dave sta dicendo. Ma trovando un professionista
nella città capitale della Pensilvania, Harrisburg, il relativo impossibile.
Avendo uno dialo che una dimostrazione personale è giusta una fantasia. Non
conosco la situazione nella vostra città in Italia. Potete desiderare
visitare il Web site del Canopus e metterseli in contatto con per
assistenza. Possono avere un rappresentante di zona per l'Italia. Non so.
Tuttavia, una cosa che potete trovare utile sapere è che il microprocessore
P4 800 ha Hyperthreading(HT). Questa caratteristica è realmente una
caratteristica del multiprocessore. Il beneficio di esso è esso duplica i
filetti. L'OS riconosce il sistema come avendo P4 multiplo 800s, quindi il
P4C800 deluxe con i raduni funzionanti di P4 800 un WinXP il vostro
requisito di una cartolina doppia P3 con soltanto un P4, a causa di
tecnologia di HT. Dovete usare Windows XP tuttavia per potere usare la
caratteristica di HT. Più vecchio OSs non sostiene HT. Ho avuto una
probabilità guardare il professionista di DVRex RT, da Canopus. Non lo
metterei in un P4C800 deluxe. Lo metterei in un P4c800-e. Dovrà presto
essere liberato. Il motivo è, voi saturerà il vostro circuito integrato del
PCI controller/ICH5 delle cartoline base. Desidererete una cartolina base
con il regolatore modificato del southbridge di ICH5R. È più veloce e
maneggia le mansioni più meglio, particolarmente se il vostro collegamento
di rete è nei gigabytes. Purtroppo, qui l'azienda del telefono fornisce
soltanto ancora il rame alle case, in modo da sono attaccato nei kilobytes.

According to the Canopus web page, a dealer in Italy is listed.
Perhaps a friendly phone call here will give you the help you
need. Also, searching in http://groups.google.com, there are
a few posts about "DVRex-RT" in the rec.video desktop and
rec.video.production. One person had trouble getting sound
synchronization with his sound card and a DVRex. There have
been a few other technical issues with the boards, and considering
the expense of these systems, you should have someone you can call
to discuss whether you are suffering from a known issue or not.
Being a hardware accelerated solution for video editing, even
if you use a crappy motherboard with a single processor, I bet
you will be able to edit video. But, if you are doing this to
start a business, then you will want this system to run at its
top efficiency, and who wants to be spending all their time
fixing hardware, when they could be making money by editing
video.

Canopus Italia
Via Monte Sabotino 69
41100 Modena - Italy
Tel: +39*059 415611
Fax: +39 059 415630
Email:
Web: www.canopus.it

Hope that helps,
Paul

"Paul" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

When I have read your post I was very worried, but the PC Minimum
Requirements is for DVRex RT Professional.
I have a DVRex RT no professional and I think one processor is ok.
I hope. You can tell me something?
Thanks Fogar

Fogar:

You are going to spend a lot of money on a video editing system. Whoever
sells you the DVRex-RT is going to make a good profit - why aren't you
getting your hardware consultation from your dealer ? You could be making
a very expensive mistake.

If I am purchasing hardware worth $4000, I would want to take my video
source material to the dealership, and get a demonstration of what the
hardware can do. During the demonstration, ask the dealer what kind of
computing power is required and how fast the storage system has to be.
Certain of the effects on this system will be done totally in hardware,
while the more exotic effects will be done in software - that is when
a fast processor is necessary. I don't know anything about video, but
I do know that to prevent thrashing of the disk heads, you should have
a "source disk" and a "destination disk". These can each be either a
single disk or each source and destination could be a two disk array
(i.e. four disks total for editing). The requirements on the disk can
be reduced by increasing the compression ratio, but that isn't why you
spend $4000 on a system like this, to get compromised image quality.

So, if you have no clue about what you are doing, get a professional
to build a system for you. If they have built a number of systems, and
this professional can give you references to people who are happy with
the system they have received, then you will have a good user experience.

It is fine to ask us a few questions about Asus motherboards, but this
group doesn't specialize in video, and we don't do professional
consulting for free. You are likely to get very bad and amateur
answers from us about video, so make your dealer earn his money.

Paul


Fogar:

Have read the minimum requirements for the video capture sub-system ?

PC Minimum Requirements
---------------------------
2 free PCI V2.1 Slots
Dual 450MHz Pentium III CPUs
256MB RAM
AV rated hard disk drive (10MB/sec min. sustained transfer)
CD-ROM Drive
Windows XP, Windows ME or Windows 2000 operating system
Microsoft® IntelliMouse® or compatible
Graphics card with hardware DirectDraw overlay

Reference


http://www.canopus.com/us/products/d...vrex-rt_profes
sional.asp

At $4,4000 for the DVRex, don't skimp on the platform.

It requires a "DUAL CPU" motherboard and AV rated disk sub-system. A
P4 2.8GHz
motherboard is not the same as a Dual PIII/450Mhz. You seem to be
looking at
SINGLE CPU systems !
You posted about max. 100MB/s disk subsystem. You need to make sure it
can
provide a sustained 10MB/s data-stream. Not burst. I strongly suggest
SCSI.
At least a U160 SCSI hard disk and an Adaptec 19160 SCSI controller.


Dave




"Fogar" wrote in message
.. .
| Hi,
| I'd like to buy ASUS P4C800 Deluxe for
| INTEL Pentium IV 2,8 GHz FSB 800 MHz but in Italy t cost very much:
| Euro 261.07
| Is there another good motherboard a little bit less expensieve
working
| with 875P chip-set?
| Thanks Fogar