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Cables Reproducing?
It has to be that these things are breeding. There used to be a joking
theory that wire coat hangers were reproducing and trying to take over the world but it seems that computer cables are in the game now. Do you find that your stock of cables is expanding without your knowledge? I just looked in the closet in my "office" and found a bag of unexplained USB cables -- mostly A to B types -- that really shouldn't be there. I already had a rack on one wall holding cables and I swear that there are twice as many now as there were a year ago -- all sorts of cables, not just USB but video, power, extenders, and who knows what else. I'm almost afraid to look in the downstairs "closet of computing antiquity" for fear of what will be there now. What does on do with such excess? Does dumping them at the recycling center help? |
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Cables Reproducing?
John McGaw wrote:
It has to be that these things are breeding. There used to be a joking theory that wire coat hangers were reproducing and trying to take over the world but it seems that computer cables are in the game now. Do you find that your stock of cables is expanding without your knowledge? I just looked in the closet in my "office" and found a bag of unexplained USB cables -- mostly A to B types -- that really shouldn't be there. I already had a rack on one wall holding cables and I swear that there are twice as many now as there were a year ago -- all sorts of cables, not just USB but video, power, extenders, and who knows what else. I'm almost afraid to look in the downstairs "closet of computing antiquity" for fear of what will be there now. What does on do with such excess? Does dumping them at the recycling center help? Some day, those cables will be a relic and hard to find. The trick, is deciding which relic "has legs", and which doesn't. I have SCSI cables now, that I know are as dead as the dodo bird. And those cables were expensive too. I bought about $50 of SATA cables, so I'd have some power and data ones, and I've pretty well put them all inside computers now. It's the inside of the computer cases, which is no longer pretty. But it solves the "storage problem". Molex Y cables, you keep those, because they still come in handy from an ampacity point of view. They make better "trees" than the SATA Y cables do. I would probably toss the USB ones that don't have a shield inside (those were used for keyboards, at 1.5Mbit/sec). ******* I checked on my electronics recycler a few days ago, only to discover the site has been bulldozed and a residential community is going there instead. Now I'll have to find another place to "drop my scraps". They love cables, because they get their weight in copper from them. Paul |
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On 7/2/19 8:42 AM, John McGaw wrote:
It has to be that these things are breeding. There used to be a joking theory that wire coat hangers were reproducing and trying to take over the world but it seems that computer cables are in the game now. Do you find that your stock of cables is expanding without your knowledge? I just looked in the closet in my "office" and found a bag of unexplained USB cables -- mostly A to B types -- that really shouldn't be there. I already had a rack on one wall holding cables and I swear that there are twice as many now as there were a year ago -- all sorts of cables, not just USB but video, power, extenders, and who knows what else. I'm almost afraid to look in the downstairs "closet of computing antiquity" for fear of what will be there now. What does on do with such excess? Does dumping them at the recycling center help? Keep male and female cables separate! |
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On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 09:42:57 -0400, John McGaw wrote:
It has to be that these things are breeding. There used to be a joking theory that wire coat hangers were reproducing and trying to take over the world but it seems that computer cables are in the game now. Do you find that your stock of cables is expanding without your knowledge? I just looked in the closet in my "office" and found a bag of unexplained USB cables -- mostly A to B types -- that really shouldn't be there. I already had a rack on one wall holding cables and I swear that there are twice as many now as there were a year ago -- all sorts of cables, not just USB but video, power, extenders, and who knows what else. I'm almost afraid to look in the downstairs "closet of computing antiquity" for fear of what will be there now. What does on do with such excess? Does dumping them at the recycling center help? I feel your pain. And I solved this with.... https://www.pccasegear.com/products/...raid-enclosure ..... and mine has now 7 HDDs. Connectrion is with a single USB3 cable to the computer and one power cord to the wall (albeit too short). No more wretched molex catenaries and Sata connectors that all produce a rat's nest of tangle. |
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On 7/2/2019 1:05 PM, philo wrote:
On 7/2/19 8:42 AM, John McGaw wrote: It has to be that these things are breeding. There used to be a joking theory that wire coat hangers were reproducing and trying to take over the world but it seems that computer cables are in the game now. Do you find that your stock of cables is expanding without your knowledge? I just looked in the closet in my "office" and found a bag of unexplained USB cables -- mostly A to B types -- that really shouldn't be there. I already had a rack on one wall holding cables and I swear that there are twice as many now as there were a year ago -- all sorts of cables, not just USB but video, power, extenders, and who knows what else. I'm almost afraid to look in the downstairs "closet of computing antiquity" for fear of what will be there now. What does on do with such excess? Does dumping them at the recycling center help? Keep male and female cables separate! I don't think that will work. Clearly parthenogenesis is involved since all of the USB cables are the same gender at each end and they seem to be reproducing the most quickly. |
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On 3/07/2019 9:38 AM, Peter Jason wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 09:42:57 -0400, John McGaw wrote: It has to be that these things are breeding. There used to be a joking theory that wire coat hangers were reproducing and trying to take over the world but it seems that computer cables are in the game now. Do you find that your stock of cables is expanding without your knowledge? I just looked in the closet in my "office" and found a bag of unexplained USB cables -- mostly A to B types -- that really shouldn't be there. I already had a rack on one wall holding cables and I swear that there are twice as many now as there were a year ago -- all sorts of cables, not just USB but video, power, extenders, and who knows what else. I'm almost afraid to look in the downstairs "closet of computing antiquity" for fear of what will be there now. What does on do with such excess? Does dumping them at the recycling center help? I feel your pain. And I solved this with.... https://www.pccasegear.com/products/...raid-enclosure .... and mine has now 7 HDDs. Connectrion is with a single USB3 cable to the computer and one power cord to the wall (albeit too short). No more wretched molex catenaries and Sata connectors that all produce a rat's nest of tangle. Now I need to find a New Zealand supplier of those and save some money to buy one. So much better solution than my three 2-bay Orico USB3 'docks'. -- Shaun. "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM" David Melville This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software. |
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On 3/07/2019 9:38 AM, Peter Jason wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 09:42:57 -0400, John McGaw wrote: It has to be that these things are breeding. There used to be a joking theory that wire coat hangers were reproducing and trying to take over the world but it seems that computer cables are in the game now. Do you find that your stock of cables is expanding without your knowledge? I just looked in the closet in my "office" and found a bag of unexplained USB cables -- mostly A to B types -- that really shouldn't be there. I already had a rack on one wall holding cables and I swear that there are twice as many now as there were a year ago -- all sorts of cables, not just USB but video, power, extenders, and who knows what else. I'm almost afraid to look in the downstairs "closet of computing antiquity" for fear of what will be there now. What does on do with such excess? Does dumping them at the recycling center help? I feel your pain. And I solved this with.... https://www.pccasegear.com/products/...raid-enclosure .... and mine has now 7 HDDs. Connectrion is with a single USB3 cable to the computer and one power cord to the wall (albeit too short). No more wretched molex catenaries and Sata connectors that all produce a rat's nest of tangle. So I found this and figured that, as it's less than half of the price of the 8 HDD version and I can get one now without saving (and another later..) this might be the way to go. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003X26VV4/ref=psdc_160354011_t1_B005GYDMYG However it says that it doesn't support '4Kn Native Drives'. I don't think I have any of those (not sure how to tell, can't find it on HDD Sentinel's 'Information" tab. It just says 4096 bytes per sector [Advanced Format] for my HDDs.. The highest capacity drive I have at the moment is 4TB. Is this likely to be a problem for me, now or in the near future? I'm glad I saw that, I was just about to order one. -- Shaun. "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM" David Melville This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software. |
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On 7/2/2019 5:38 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 09:42:57 -0400, John McGaw wrote: It has to be that these things are breeding. There used to be a joking theory that wire coat hangers were reproducing and trying to take over the world but it seems that computer cables are in the game now. Do you find that your stock of cables is expanding without your knowledge? I just looked in the closet in my "office" and found a bag of unexplained USB cables -- mostly A to B types -- that really shouldn't be there. I already had a rack on one wall holding cables and I swear that there are twice as many now as there were a year ago -- all sorts of cables, not just USB but video, power, extenders, and who knows what else. I'm almost afraid to look in the downstairs "closet of computing antiquity" for fear of what will be there now. What does on do with such excess? Does dumping them at the recycling center help? I feel your pain. And I solved this with.... https://www.pccasegear.com/products/...raid-enclosure .... and mine has now 7 HDDs. Connectrion is with a single USB3 cable to the computer and one power cord to the wall (albeit too short). No more wretched molex catenaries and Sata connectors that all produce a rat's nest of tangle. I don't really have a huge problem with cables when they are in use. It is just that those that aren't in use seem to keep multiplying I'll admit that in my "server room" in the basement the chrome bakery rack holding four computers, two monitors, keyboard, mouse, and two big UPSs does look a bit messy when it is rolled out but even with a KVM there is only so much one can do to keep neat. Otherwise I manage to keep things pretty tidy. I really only use a single always-connected external drive, my backup which cycles through four units with the latest always in the bank's vault. Of course I guess one might consider my two Drobo network storage units to be external drives but they live in a closet and are never seen or touched for months on end. |
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~misfit~ wrote:
On 3/07/2019 9:38 AM, Peter Jason wrote: On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 09:42:57 -0400, John McGaw wrote: It has to be that these things are breeding. There used to be a joking theory that wire coat hangers were reproducing and trying to take over the world but it seems that computer cables are in the game now. Do you find that your stock of cables is expanding without your knowledge? I just looked in the closet in my "office" and found a bag of unexplained USB cables -- mostly A to B types -- that really shouldn't be there. I already had a rack on one wall holding cables and I swear that there are twice as many now as there were a year ago -- all sorts of cables, not just USB but video, power, extenders, and who knows what else. I'm almost afraid to look in the downstairs "closet of computing antiquity" for fear of what will be there now. What does on do with such excess? Does dumping them at the recycling center help? I feel your pain. And I solved this with.... https://www.pccasegear.com/products/...raid-enclosure .... and mine has now 7 HDDs. Connectrion is with a single USB3 cable to the computer and one power cord to the wall (albeit too short). No more wretched molex catenaries and Sata connectors that all produce a rat's nest of tangle. So I found this and figured that, as it's less than half of the price of the 8 HDD version and I can get one now without saving (and another later..) this might be the way to go. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003X26VV4/ref=psdc_160354011_t1_B005GYDMYG However it says that it doesn't support '4Kn Native Drives'. I don't think I have any of those (not sure how to tell, can't find it on HDD Sentinel's 'Information" tab. It just says 4096 bytes per sector [Advanced Format] for my HDDs.. The highest capacity drive I have at the moment is 4TB. Is this likely to be a problem for me, now or in the near future? I'm glad I saw that, I was just about to order one. You can buy 4Kn (native) drives. Windows 10 might even support one. However, the tool flow for working with those is likely a "server guy" kinda thing. The tools I've consulted make 4Kn look like a dead end. outside inside-format 512n 512 512 # WDC Gold 1TB,2TB,4TB, can still buy # Good choice for WinXP, not essential # for Vista+ 512e 512 4096 # Most common modern format 4Kn 4096 4096 # Think about how this screws up the MBR... # And how your average tool won't know what # to do. For the most part, sites like Newegg try not to sell 4Kn drives to consumers. They're not promoted as strongly as they could be. And as far as I'm concerned, "they're a trap". The 512e type, is perfectly adequate, and would be supported in just about anything, because it is "512 emulated" and emulated to the outside world, exactly what things need to see. If you install Windows 10 on a 4Kn, then chances are your first surprise comes when you use Partition Management tools. I don't even have a 4Kn to test. Couldn't see the point of it. Paul |
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On 5/07/2019 2:31 AM, Paul wrote:
~misfit~ wrote: On 3/07/2019 9:38 AM, Peter Jason wrote: On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 09:42:57 -0400, John McGaw wrote: It has to be that these things are breeding. There used to be a joking theory that wire coat hangers were reproducing and trying to take over the world but it seems that computer cables are in the game now. Do you find that your stock of cables is expanding without your knowledge? I just looked in the closet in my "office" and found a bag of unexplained USB cables -- mostly A to B types -- that really shouldn't be there. I already had a rack on one wall holding cables and I swear that there are twice as many now as there were a year ago -- all sorts of cables, not just USB but video, power, extenders, and who knows what else. I'm almost afraid to look in the downstairs "closet of computing antiquity" for fear of what will be there now. What does on do with such excess? Does dumping them at the recycling center help? I feel your pain. And I solved this with.... https://www.pccasegear.com/products/...raid-enclosure .... and mine has now 7 HDDs.Â*Â* Connectrion is with a single USB3 cable to the computer and one power cord to the wall (albeit too short). No more wretched molex catenaries and Sata connectors that all produce a rat's nest of tangle. So I found this and figured that, as it's less than half of the price of the 8 HDD version and I can get one now without saving (and another later..) this might be the way to go. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003X26VV4/ref=psdc_160354011_t1_B005GYDMYG However it says that it doesn't support '4Kn Native Drives'. I don't think I have any of those (not sure how to tell, can't find it on HDD Sentinel's 'Information" tab. It just says 4096 bytes per sector [Advanced Format] for my HDDs.. The highest capacity drive I have at the moment is 4TB. Is this likely to be a problem for me, now or in the near future? I'm glad I saw that, I was just about to order one. You can buy 4Kn (native) drives. Windows 10 might even support one. However, the tool flow for working with those is likely a "server guy" kinda thing. The tools I've consulted make 4Kn look like a dead end. Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* outsideÂ*Â* inside-format 512nÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 512Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 512Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* # WDC Gold 1TB,2TB,4TB, can still buy Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* # Good choice for WinXP, not essential Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* # for Vista+ 512eÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 512Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 4096Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* # Most common modern format 4KnÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 4096Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 4096Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* # Think about how this screws up the MBR... Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* # And how your average tool won't know what Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* # to do. For the most part, sites like Newegg try not to sell 4Kn drives to consumers. They're not promoted as strongly as they could be. And as far as I'm concerned, "they're a trap". The 512e type, is perfectly adequate, and would be supported in just about anything, because it is "512 emulated" and emulated to the outside world, exactly what things need to see. If you install Windows 10 on a 4Kn, then chances are your first surprise comes when you use Partition Management tools. I don't even have a 4Kn to test. Couldn't see the point of it. Â*Â* Paul Thanks Paul. So there's little chance I'll have an issue with this enclosure not working with a HDD I'm likely to buy then. I'll order one. -- Shaun. "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM" David Melville This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software. |
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