Typical mains power for mid-range PC?

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:21:25 -0400, kony Gave us:


Oops, I deleted the rest of the post. Was it a loss or did
you just write something about BS and paper bags a few dozen
times?

He is an idiot. He makes all these bogus declaration, yet makes no
technical responses at all.

This twit assembles PCs, at best. His knowledge of engineering
hovers just below nil.

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:28:05 -0700, "Ed Light"
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Kony and Phat (and anybody):

What's your take on this thingy?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118215

It appears to soak heat off the sides of the drive.

If you have a drive or drives that you feel are running hot, it would
cool them for sure.

Where would the drive's heat sensor be?

It is likely included with the cooling device.

Would this actually help cool the bottom of the drive? Maybe not the board
but the spindle and motor?

The spindle and motor get cooled 100% conductively through the drive
case. They are actually meant to operate at what you would call a hot
temp.

Phat Bytestard wrote
Rod Speed wrote

And have fun explaining how come some drive manufacturers explicitly state
that the drive temp limits apply to a specific location on the top cover, child.

Cite!

Already provided. Do at least TRY to keep up, child.

And even if they do, they are considering that NON
cooled surface as being a mean temperature for the drive.

Wrong, as always. They are actually specifying which place to measure
to ensure that the drive doesnt exceed the max temp they specify.

Read those cites, child.

Phat:

Just filter Rod Speed out. It's heaven then.


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Phat Bytestard wrote
Rod Speed wrote
kony wrote
Rod Speed wrote
kony wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Jon D wrote

They may feel warm but this is more a function of heat
rising because it wasn't removed more immediately from
the hot areas instead of left to heat up surrounding areas.

Have fun explaining how come that cover STILL gets
warm even when the drive is mounted upside down.

Because heat radiates on all directions, not just UP.

Pathetic, really. It cant 'radiate' from the logic card
thru the body of the drive, to the top cover, child.

reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs

Anyone with even half a clue knows that the driver card's heat
does NOT get conducted to the platter box lid of ANY hard drive.

Tell that to that fool that proclaimed that, child.

"Phat Bytestard" wrote

Where would the drive's heat sensor be?

It is likely included with the cooling device.

I mean, the one in the drive -- where in the drive?

The spindle and motor get cooled 100% conductively through the drive
case. They are actually meant to operate at what you would call a hot
temp.

How hot is hot enough to accelerate wear?


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Phat Bytestard wrote
Rod Speed wrote
kony wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Jon D wrote

If I have a hard drive which has a protective sheet of metal
on one side and the circuit board on the other side then
which of these two side should get the most cooling?

Varys with the drive design. The only real way to answer that
question is to try it both ways and monitor the drive SMART temp.

NO, it does not vary per drive design,

Fraid it does. Most obviously with the older Barras which
have a metal plate and rubber mat over the logic card etc.

reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs

Some drive makers place such things on
their SPINDLE driver sections of their PCBs.

Irrelevant to what happened with those Barras.

Very few drives have multiple PCBs in them now
(not including within the plater/head box),

Irrelevant to what is being discussed.

and both the spindle drivers as well as the CONTROLLER
electronics are integrated together on that one board.

Irrelevant to what is being discussed.

There are plenty of drives, even the 10k RPM versions that have
no sinking metals on this board at all. There are some that do.

So clearly the designs do vary, stupid.

So it doesn't vary by design so much as by manufacturer.

Pathetic, really.

It is not required, and the bottom of the drive is STILL
the place where cooling air currents should be directed.

It clearly isnt with those Barras, child.

The view is really sweet after you filter Rod Speed out. Try it!

Otherwise he appears in other peoples' posts, that he's baited his way into.

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Phat Bytestard wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 17:52:52 +1000, "Rod Speed"
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or rather, all drive designs are putting the board
on the bottom, and a thin cover on the top,

Plenty of top covers arent thin.

Now, you are a semantical twit.

A 20 Ga stainless lid is quite stiff. but to someone used to heavier
sheet steel calling it thin is NOT incorrect. For you to assume he
meant foil thin

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, child.

Phat Bytestard wrote
Rod Speed wrote
kony wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Jon D wrote

If I have a hard drive which has a protective sheet of metal
on one side and the circuit board on the other side then
which of these two side should get the most cooling?

Varys with the drive design. The only real way to answer that
question is to try it both ways and monitor the drive SMART temp.

NO, it does not vary per drive design,

Fraid it does. Most obviously with the older Barras which
have a metal plate and rubber mat over the logic card etc.

or rather, all drive designs are putting the board
on the bottom, and a thin cover on the top,

Plenty of top covers arent thin.

thus need more cooling on the bottom
circuit board than (if any on) the top cover.

Not a ****ing clue, as always. Plenty of drives still get
rid of quite a bit of heat thru the metal body of the drive.

Drives exhibit heat on all their surfaces.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist drug crazed children ?

The emissivity of the surface determines the degree to which they radiate.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist drug crazed children ?

A shiny polished lid has a relatively low emissivity,
and yes, surface finish does matter.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist drug crazed children ?

That is why chips have matte finishes.

Pathetic, really.

I have drive mounts that do not have conduction paths for heat
through them. The drives are cooled completely by air currents.

Irrelevant to whether some drives get rid of quite a
bit of heat by conduction to the metal drive bay stack.

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to put its hand against
the metal drive bay stack and feel that its the same temp as the drive.