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Old September 4th 20, 06:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.hardware
Arlen Holder
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Default What PC hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you recommend?

What PC hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you recommend?

o I have a random hardware related BSOD whose cause is unknown to me
https://i.postimg.cc/9Q4m7tfM/bsod01.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/DyNFnJcK/bsod02.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/XYnhMnR0/bsod10.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/T2mHpyG6/bsod13.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/5t6s1ypD/bsod15.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/T1X0r9GX/bsod16.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/8khtTqBk/bsod18.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/LsjxVzL2/bsod19.jpg

It could be the motherboard, a daughter card, the HDD mechanics, etc.

I first ran the Windows memory diagnostic freeware to no avail:
https://i.postimg.cc/d3xZzxrd/bsod24.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/VvmczfBP/bsod25.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/kMc0xdvD/bsod26.jpg

As per the kind suggestions of "n/a" and others, I ran memtest86 freeware
on that old BIOS desktop in an attempt to identify its hardware faults:
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/oL7PTNKu/windows-10-bsod-indicates-a-hardware-problem-but-what-hardware-is-the-problem#post17

The old BIOS desktop booted a 32GB Memtest86 USB stick to ran overnight,
finding no errors on 16GB RAM (I stopped it after 5 hours & 6 iterations):
https://i.postimg.cc/KY1Yk4WP/memtest02.jpg

If it's not the RAM, it's something else hardware related (the HDD has been
re-imaged multiple times in its entirety and all extraneous boards and
peripherals have been disconnected).

What other hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you further recommend?
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Old September 4th 20, 08:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.hardware
Arlen Holder
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Default What PC hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you recommend?

On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 17:35:14 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

The old BIOS desktop booted a 32GB Memtest86 USB stick to ran overnight,
finding no errors on 16GB RAM (I stopped it after 5 hours & 6 iterations):
https://i.postimg.cc/KY1Yk4WP/memtest02.jpg


Typo correction "run overnight" (individually and as a block of 2 & 4):
https://i.postimg.cc/gc5kc7FP/memtest01.jpg

To be clear, I'll be running, one by one, the best stress-testing freeware.

I just need to find which are the best apps for stress tests
o Many apps like CPU-Z or GPU-Z are more of a reporting than stress tool.

Here are some of the potential suites I may be testing each evening:
o https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/diagnose-your-pc-for-faulty-hardware/2900-1640/
o https://www.pcworld.com/article/2028882/keep-it-stable-stupid-how-to-stress-test-your-pc-hardware.html
o https://www.gearprimer.com/technology/best-tools-stress-test-pc-cpu-ram-gpu/
o https://techguided.com/best-tools-to-stress-test-p-cpu-ram-gpu/
o https://www.rankred.com/best-tools-stress-test-pc-cpu-gpu-ram/
etc.

The question here is simply what stress-testing freeware you recommend.
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Old September 4th 20, 08:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.hardware
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Default What PC hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can yourecommend?

On 9/4/2020 1:35 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
What PC hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you recommend?

o I have a random hardware related BSOD whose cause is unknown to me
https://i.postimg.cc/9Q4m7tfM/bsod01.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/DyNFnJcK/bsod02.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/XYnhMnR0/bsod10.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/T2mHpyG6/bsod13.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/5t6s1ypD/bsod15.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/T1X0r9GX/bsod16.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/8khtTqBk/bsod18.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/LsjxVzL2/bsod19.jpg

It could be the motherboard, a daughter card, the HDD mechanics, etc.

I first ran the Windows memory diagnostic freeware to no avail:
https://i.postimg.cc/d3xZzxrd/bsod24.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/VvmczfBP/bsod25.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/kMc0xdvD/bsod26.jpg

As per the kind suggestions of "n/a" and others, I ran memtest86 freeware
on that old BIOS desktop in an attempt to identify its hardware faults:
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/oL7PTNKu/windows-10-bsod-indicates-a-hardware-problem-but-what-hardware-is-the-problem#post17

The old BIOS desktop booted a 32GB Memtest86 USB stick to ran overnight,
finding no errors on 16GB RAM (I stopped it after 5 hours & 6 iterations):
https://i.postimg.cc/KY1Yk4WP/memtest02.jpg

If it's not the RAM, it's something else hardware related (the HDD has been
re-imaged multiple times in its entirety and all extraneous boards and
peripherals have been disconnected).

What other hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you further recommend?


Why settle on a hardware problem without proof? In my experience a bad
driver or glitched OS is equally likely if not more so. Try booting from a
Linux CD/DVD/STICK and run it for at least a few days and see what happens.

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Old September 4th 20, 10:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.hardware
Paul[_28_]
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Default What PC hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you recommend?

John McGaw wrote:
On 9/4/2020 1:35 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
What PC hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you recommend?

o I have a random hardware related BSOD whose cause is unknown to me
https://i.postimg.cc/9Q4m7tfM/bsod01.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/DyNFnJcK/bsod02.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/XYnhMnR0/bsod10.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/T2mHpyG6/bsod13.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/5t6s1ypD/bsod15.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/T1X0r9GX/bsod16.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/8khtTqBk/bsod18.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/LsjxVzL2/bsod19.jpg

It could be the motherboard, a daughter card, the HDD mechanics, etc.

I first ran the Windows memory diagnostic freeware to no avail:
https://i.postimg.cc/d3xZzxrd/bsod24.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/VvmczfBP/bsod25.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/kMc0xdvD/bsod26.jpg

As per the kind suggestions of "n/a" and others, I ran memtest86 freeware
on that old BIOS desktop in an attempt to identify its hardware faults:
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/oL7PTNKu/windows-10-bsod-indicates-a-hardware-problem-but-what-hardware-is-the-problem#post17


The old BIOS desktop booted a 32GB Memtest86 USB stick to ran overnight,
finding no errors on 16GB RAM (I stopped it after 5 hours & 6
iterations):
https://i.postimg.cc/KY1Yk4WP/memtest02.jpg

If it's not the RAM, it's something else hardware related (the HDD has
been
re-imaged multiple times in its entirety and all extraneous boards and
peripherals have been disconnected).

What other hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you further
recommend?


Why settle on a hardware problem without proof? In my experience a bad
driver or glitched OS is equally likely if not more so. Try booting from
a Linux CD/DVD/STICK and run it for at least a few days and see what
happens.


You can run Prime95 from Linux. That's my favorite.

Normally you'd do that to avoid corrupting the
registry on an (unstable) Windows install. You should
not run Windows or do Windowsy things, until
"proving it's a computer" first.

The Linux ones are static. Which is what you want.
Nice and portable.

https://www.mersenne.org/download/

Make sure your CPU cooler works first, before
running that. Or, the power will go off on overheat
(THERMTRIP).

Paul
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Old September 5th 20, 11:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.hardware
micky
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Default What PC hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you recommend?

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:51:26 -0400, Paul
wrote:

John McGaw wrote:
On 9/4/2020 1:35 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
What PC hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you recommend?
........

If it's not the RAM, it's something else hardware related (the HDD has
been
re-imaged multiple times in its entirety and all extraneous boards and
peripherals have been disconnected).

What other hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you further
recommend?


Why settle on a hardware problem without proof? In my experience a bad
driver or glitched OS is equally likely if not more so. Try booting from
a Linux CD/DVD/STICK and run it for at least a few days and see what
happens.


You can run Prime95 from Linux. That's my favorite.

Normally you'd do that to avoid corrupting the
registry on an (unstable) Windows install. You should
not run Windows or do Windowsy things, until
"proving it's a computer" first.

The Linux ones are static. Which is what you want.
Nice and portable.

https://www.mersenne.org/download/

Make sure your CPU cooler works first, before
running that. Or, the power will go off on overheat
(THERMTRIP).


"We are not responsible for lost prize money, fame, credit, etc. should
someone accidentally or maliciously test the number you
are working on and find it to be prime. "

Paul, if they are saying they're not responsible, who is? Will you
chip in if I lose the prize I should have won?
Paul


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Old September 6th 20, 01:13 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.hardware
Paul[_28_]
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Default What PC hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you recommend?

micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:51:26 -0400, Paul
wrote:

John McGaw wrote:
On 9/4/2020 1:35 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
What PC hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you recommend?
........

If it's not the RAM, it's something else hardware related (the HDD has
been
re-imaged multiple times in its entirety and all extraneous boards and
peripherals have been disconnected).

What other hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you further
recommend?

Why settle on a hardware problem without proof? In my experience a bad
driver or glitched OS is equally likely if not more so. Try booting from
a Linux CD/DVD/STICK and run it for at least a few days and see what
happens.

You can run Prime95 from Linux. That's my favorite.

Normally you'd do that to avoid corrupting the
registry on an (unstable) Windows install. You should
not run Windows or do Windowsy things, until
"proving it's a computer" first.

The Linux ones are static. Which is what you want.
Nice and portable.

https://www.mersenne.org/download/

Make sure your CPU cooler works first, before
running that. Or, the power will go off on overheat
(THERMTRIP).


"We are not responsible for lost prize money, fame, credit, etc. should
someone accidentally or maliciously test the number you
are working on and find it to be prime. "

Paul, if they are saying they're not responsible, who is? Will you
chip in if I lose the prize I should have won?
Paul



It's a contest, if you snooze, you lose.

First person to evaluate a number and determine primality
claims the prize. Someone also duplicates the effort, as it
looks really bad if a prize is claimed for no reason.

I ported a piece of code using GMP (bignum package), and
it runs at a lethargic pace. Not with the speed of the
FFT method used by the "Prime Guy". However, if you use
Prime95, then the money you get is reduced, as it's
a pool of sorts.

If I used my home grown, slow as molasses program
(does math with 40 million digit numbers), and I happen
to finish first and notice a particular number is a
Mersenne Prime, then I don't share the money with the
"Prime Guy". Maybe I get the money and you don't. However,
i can only evaluate a single number, once in a blue moon,
so I'm not much of a threat. My computer can only do around
twenty 40 million digit calculations per second.

Paul
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Old September 6th 20, 10:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.hardware
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Default What PC hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you recommend?

"Arlen Holder" wrote in message
...
What PC hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you recommend?

o I have a random hardware related BSOD whose cause is unknown to me
https://i.postimg.cc/9Q4m7tfM/bsod01.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/DyNFnJcK/bsod02.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/XYnhMnR0/bsod10.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/T2mHpyG6/bsod13.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/5t6s1ypD/bsod15.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/T1X0r9GX/bsod16.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/8khtTqBk/bsod18.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/LsjxVzL2/bsod19.jpg

It could be the motherboard, a daughter card, the HDD mechanics, etc.

I first ran the Windows memory diagnostic freeware to no avail:
https://i.postimg.cc/d3xZzxrd/bsod24.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/VvmczfBP/bsod25.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/kMc0xdvD/bsod26.jpg

As per the kind suggestions of "n/a" and others, I ran memtest86 freeware
on that old BIOS desktop in an attempt to identify its hardware faults:
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/oL7PTNKu/windows-10-bsod-indicates-a-hardware-problem-but-what-hardware-is-the-problem#post17

The old BIOS desktop booted a 32GB Memtest86 USB stick to ran overnight,
finding no errors on 16GB RAM (I stopped it after 5 hours & 6 iterations):
https://i.postimg.cc/KY1Yk4WP/memtest02.jpg

If it's not the RAM, it's something else hardware related (the HDD has
been
re-imaged multiple times in its entirety and all extraneous boards and
peripherals have been disconnected).

What other hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you further
recommend?


I've posted a list on alt.comp.freeware.

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Old September 16th 20, 08:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.hardware
Arlen Holder
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Default What PC hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you recommend?

On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 10:07:22 +0100, wasbit wrote:

I've posted a list on alt.comp.freeware.


Hi wasbit,

Thanks for that purposefully helpful post about stress-test freeware.

I had thought you appended it to the thread on alt.comp.freeware but you
didn't, so I had to look for it, and so that others don't, here it is:
o *Benchmark/Stress Test Freeware*, by wasbit
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/ZIA12GCPuSg

Update: https://i.postimg.cc/SxNC7CTy/heavyload01.jpg

Independently, I came up with a lot of those stress-testing free tools, but
your list is better than what I came up with in that it's more focused.

One by one, I'm likely gonna test many of these stress testing tools,
as I have a PC that works fine for days on end, and then suddenly BSODs.

I don't (yet) know why.

Moving forward, I picked "HeavyLoad" freeware out of that list to test:
o It has been running all four cores of my CPU at 100% for a while
https://i.postimg.cc/SxNC7CTy/heavyload01.jpg

Here's setup information from my syslogs...
https://www.jam-software.com/heavyload
https://downloads.jam-software.de/heavyload/HeavyLoad-x64-Setup.exe
Name: HeavyLoad-x64-Setup.exe
Size: 15534704 bytes (14 MiB)
SHA256: D4CE244DDB5EF7DFCE3E650A2ADB3B63964992DE8088DF6716 E26B7D440001C8

It wants to go in C:\Program Files\JAM Software\HeavyLoad
I put it where it belongs, in C:\app\hardware\cpu\heavyload
The target is C:\app\hardware\cpu\heavyload\HeavyLoad.exe

In the image, you see I paired it with OCCT to see how the voltages, fan
speeds, power supply, and temperatures fared during the heavy load test.
o https://i.postimg.cc/SxNC7CTy/heavyload01.jpg
--
I will have a lot of stress testing software to test out coming up.
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Old September 16th 20, 08:19 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.hardware
Arlen Holder
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Default What PC hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you recommend?

On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 10:07:22 +0100, wasbit wrote:

I've posted a list on alt.comp.freeware.


Hi wasbit,

Thanks for that purposefully helpful post about stress-test freeware.

I had thought you appended it to the thread on alt.comp.freeware but you
didn't, so I had to look for it, and so that others don't, here it is:
o *Benchmark/Stress Test Freeware*, by wasbit
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/ZIA12GCPuSg

Update: https://i.postimg.cc/SxNC7CTy/heavyload01.jpg

Independently, I came up with a lot of those stress-testing free tools, but
your list is better than what I came up with in that it's more focused.

One by one, I'm likely gonna test many of these stress testing tools,
as I have a PC that works fine for days on end, and then suddenly BSODs.

I don't (yet) know why.

Moving forward, I picked "HeavyLoad" freeware out of that list to test:
o It has been running all four cores of my CPU at 100% for a while
https://i.postimg.cc/SxNC7CTy/heavyload01.jpg

Here's setup information from my syslogs...
https://www.jam-software.com/heavyload
https://downloads.jam-software.de/heavyload/HeavyLoad-x64-Setup.exe
Name: HeavyLoad-x64-Setup.exe
Size: 15534704 bytes (14 MiB)
SHA256: D4CE244DDB5EF7DFCE3E650A2ADB3B63964992DE8088DF6716 E26B7D440001C8

It wants to go in C:\Program Files\JAM Software\HeavyLoad
I put it where it belongs, in C:\app\hardware\cpu\heavyload
The target is C:\app\hardware\cpu\heavyload\HeavyLoad.exe

In the image, you see I paired it with OCCT to see how the voltages, fan
speeds, power supply, and temperatures fared during the heavy load test.
o https://i.postimg.cc/SxNC7CTy/heavyload01.jpg
--
I will have a lot of stress testing software to test out coming up.
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Old September 21st 20, 11:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.hardware
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Default What PC hardware diagnostic stress-testing freeware can you recommend?

On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 05:57:45 -0700, Mike Easter wrote:

Likewise, I think using it for your daily driver is a disadvantage in
the diagnosis business. The tweaked OS has two many unknowns.


Hi Mike,

Here's an update, as I'm still running various diagnostic tools.
o I've dedicated an entire monitor just for 24/7 diagnostics.
https://i.postimg.cc/zGMPvwMV/bsoddiag04.jpg

It hasn't BSOD'd in a few days, running 24/7, where I thought you'd be
interested in a "WhySoSlow" Analysis, after 24 hours of use as the dd:
o https://i.postimg.cc/tCZVWZcC/bsoddiag01.jpg
o https://i.postimg.cc/V6kJ6dMw/bsoddiag02.jpg
o https://i.postimg.cc/prgrqCSV/bsoddiag03.jpg

The only anomaly I see is the mouse every once in a while is glitchy,
in that it doesn't move for a microsecond and then recovers, which happens
relatively frequently (about once an hour or so on average or so).

But I don't know of any tool, yet, that monitors mouse "glitchiness".
o Do you?

Here is the WhySoSlow analysis, after 24 hours of continuous use:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OS version: Windows 10, 10.0, version 2004, build: 19041 (x64)
Hardwa NY549AA-ABA p6230y, HP-Pavilion, FOXCONN, ALOE
CPU: AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 Processor
Logical processors: 4
Processor groups: 1
RAM: 16127 MB total
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CPU Speed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Your CPU speed ranged between 2594 Mhz and 2594 MHz.
The advertised clock speed of your processor is 2594 MHz.
Your main processor was running at its advertised clock speed only.
Your CPUs do not appear to be throttled down.
More info..http://www.resplendence.com/whysoslow_help_cpuspeed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CPU Temperature
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Your CPU temperature ranged between 36 °C and 39 °C
(equal to 96 °F - 102 °F) during the tests.
Your processors are running cool.
More info..http://www.resplendence.com/whysoslow_help_cputemp
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CPU Load
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
While the test was idle, your CPU usage ranged from 18.7% to 60.8%.
Your processor's resources do not appear to be used heavily.
More info..http://www.resplendence.com/whysoslow_help_cpuload
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Memory Load
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The amount of RAM used by your system while the test was running ranged
from 19.7% to 20.1%.
More info..http://www.resplendence.com/whysoslow_help_memload
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paging Information
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
During the test hard pagefaults ranged from 0.0 to 9.1 pagefaults per second.
The values reported are considered excellent.
More info..http://www.resplendence.com/whysoslow_help_hardpagefaults
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Application responsiveness
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The highest application responsiveness on your system was measured at 0.140 ms.
This value is considered good.
Your system appears to be responsive.
More info..http://www.resplendence.com/whysoslow_help_appresponsiveness
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kernel latencies and real-time capabilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The highest kernel responsiveness on your system was measured at 0.136 ms.
This value is considered good.
There do not appear to be drivers causing your system to be unsuitable
for real-time processing capabilities.
More info..http://www.resplendence.com/whysoslow_help_kernelresponsiveness
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BIOS and chipset behavior
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The highest measured SM BIOS interrupt or other stall was 1 microseconds.
This value is considered excellent.
No problems have been detected during the tests.
More info..http://www.resplendence.com/whysoslow_help_smm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Conclusion
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Your system has been analyzed. Your system appears to be running fine.
No problems were found.
Report generated on 9/21/2020 2:22:22
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