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Old Zip drive in new computer for 73 year old mother
Can't imagine why an IDE Zip drive wouldn't work. I would start to worry
about the media soon as it may be pretty old. Tom wrote in message ... Would a modern XP machine (I am thinking Dimension 5100) recognize and install drivers for a 100 meg zip drive? Would I need to download drivers from anywhere? The zip drive is quite old, originally coming in a Dimension XPS R-400, but has been living in a newer XP box. These fit in a 3.5 slot I believe, is that correct? If this is not feasible, I guess I could try putting in her old hard drive and getting her documents from there, and switching her to USB Jump Drives, that should be close to the UI of the zip drives. -- Andrew Hall (Now reading Usenet in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell...) |
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If the internal ZIP drive is IDE, it should go nicely inside an available 3.5"
drive bay (or a 5.25" drive bay with adapter bracket). It does not need drivers because Windows XP recognizes it as a removable drive. (I installed a 250MB USB ZIP drive in a new Dell Precision recently with no problems. It handles a lot of 100MB ZIP cartridges that were written on a Mac G3.) Some external ZIP drives are also cheap and easier to install, but only the 250MB USB drive is worth doing. External parallel ZIP sucks. External SCSI ZIP requires an internal SCSI adapter, so it offers no advantage... Ben Myers On 12 Sep 2005 13:55:24 -0400, wrote: Would a modern XP machine (I am thinking Dimension 5100) recognize and install drivers for a 100 meg zip drive? Would I need to download drivers from anywhere? The zip drive is quite old, originally coming in a Dimension XPS R-400, but has been living in a newer XP box. These fit in a 3.5 slot I believe, is that correct? If this is not feasible, I guess I could try putting in her old hard drive and getting her documents from there, and switching her to USB Jump Drives, that should be close to the UI of the zip drives. -- Andrew Hall (Now reading Usenet in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell...) |
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I don't believe you'll have any trouble - XP should recognize and install
drivers for the Zip drive. Hey, it's not that old. A suggestion: As a storage medium, the Zip disc is now falling more and more out of the mainstream. CDs and DVDs are the way to go, so you might consider transferring what you have on Zip discs to either of those. -- Ted Zieglar "You can do it if you try." wrote in message ... Would a modern XP machine (I am thinking Dimension 5100) recognize and install drivers for a 100 meg zip drive? Would I need to download drivers from anywhere? The zip drive is quite old, originally coming in a Dimension XPS R-400, but has been living in a newer XP box. These fit in a 3.5 slot I believe, is that correct? If this is not feasible, I guess I could try putting in her old hard drive and getting her documents from there, and switching her to USB Jump Drives, that should be close to the UI of the zip drives. -- Andrew Hall (Now reading Usenet in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell...) |
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If this is not feasible, I guess I could try putting
in her old hard drive and getting her documents from there, and switching her to USB Jump Drives, that should be close to the UI of the zip drives. How about just picking up the cheapest HD you can find, and throwing it into an external caddy ? -- Please add the word "newsgroup" in the subject line of personal emails **** My email address includes "ngspamtrap" and " **** |
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Just as others have stated, I would discourage long-term use of ZIP cartridges.
They have low capacity nowadays, and reliability of the drives has been none too hot either. If your goal is to simply get her data onto the new PC, perhaps the easiest way is to get external USB case which houses 3.5" drives. Mount the drive in the case, plug it in, and go. The old drive has such low capacity as to be fairly useless on a modern computer... Ben Myers On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:21:30 GMT, ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers) wrote: If the internal ZIP drive is IDE, it should go nicely inside an available 3.5" drive bay (or a 5.25" drive bay with adapter bracket). It does not need drivers because Windows XP recognizes it as a removable drive. (I installed a 250MB USB ZIP drive in a new Dell Precision recently with no problems. It handles a lot of 100MB ZIP cartridges that were written on a Mac G3.) Some external ZIP drives are also cheap and easier to install, but only the 250MB USB drive is worth doing. External parallel ZIP sucks. External SCSI ZIP requires an internal SCSI adapter, so it offers no advantage... Ben Myers On 12 Sep 2005 13:55:24 -0400, wrote: Would a modern XP machine (I am thinking Dimension 5100) recognize and install drivers for a 100 meg zip drive? Would I need to download drivers from anywhere? The zip drive is quite old, originally coming in a Dimension XPS R-400, but has been living in a newer XP box. These fit in a 3.5 slot I believe, is that correct? If this is not feasible, I guess I could try putting in her old hard drive and getting her documents from there, and switching her to USB Jump Drives, that should be close to the UI of the zip drives. -- Andrew Hall (Now reading Usenet in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell...) |
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wrote in message ... Ben Myers writes: Ben Just as others have stated, I would discourage long-term use of ZIP cartridges. Ben They have low capacity nowadays, and reliability of the drives has been none too Ben hot either. Ben If your goal is to simply get her data onto the new PC, perhaps the easiest way Ben is to get external USB case which houses 3.5" drives. Mount the drive in the Ben case, plug it in, and go. The old drive has such low capacity as to be fairly Ben useless on a modern computer... Ben Myers I will probably convert her to jump drives. She is quite ill (cancer), and very stressed out. I want to have things change as little as possible for her. Andrew, Best to you and your mom. I understand how "keeping things the same" and minimizing change is a desirable thing. The 5100 (I think) has only (1) IDE channel, and that's IDE 2 for the optical drives. It will work but you may have to replace the Dell OEM IDE2 cable so that the "slave" connect will reach the bay in which the Zip will be located. Stew |
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it sounds as if you currently have an internally mounted zip drive in a
dimension rxxx machine that you would like to use in a current model dell. this would work however there are some issues.... first, how to mount the 3.5" drive in the current dimension case is an issue. there is a bay for a 3.5" drive in the dimension 2400, 3000, 4600, and 4700 but it requires a bracket that is only available with the purchase of the 3.5" floppy drive. an alternative is to obtain a 5.25" bracket adapter for a 3.5" form factor drive. this allows you to mount the 3.5" zip drive in a cage that then will fit the 5.25" type form factor. the above mentioned machines have two 5.25" external bays that it could be mounted into. however, if you purchase the machine with two cd drives then you will have to eliminate one to provide space for the zip. next, you will have to connect it internally to the ide cable. on the 2400, 3000 and 4600 both the hard disk and the cd drives are connected to ide type cables. on the 4700 only the cd drives are connected to an ide cable (the hard drives use a different interface). so there can only be two ide devices in the 4700 and so you can only have one cd drive if you intend to connect the zip to the other possible spot. finally, if you don't place the zip in a 5.25" cage and mound it next to the cd drive then you will not likely be able to cable both a cd and the zip for data. i suggest that you simply purchase an external usb zip 100 for $35 or a external usb zip 250 drive for $49 from the iomega.com outlet and not bother with the internal drive. the zip 250 will read/write the older zip 100 disks but does it slower than the zip 100 drive would. of course the zip 250 can also read/write zip 250 disks whereas the zip 100 can not. there is also a zip 750 but i have no idea if it is backwards compatible with the 100 or 250... and given the fact that it lacks any popularity and that cdrw can store 700mb why bother. good luck. wrote in message ... Would a modern XP machine (I am thinking Dimension 5100) recognize and install drivers for a 100 meg zip drive? Would I need to download drivers from anywhere? The zip drive is quite old, originally coming in a Dimension XPS R-400, but has been living in a newer XP box. These fit in a 3.5 slot I believe, is that correct? If this is not feasible, I guess I could try putting in her old hard drive and getting her documents from there, and switching her to USB Jump Drives, that should be close to the UI of the zip drives. -- Andrew Hall (Now reading Usenet in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell...) |
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"Christopher Muto" wrote in message news:PksVe.15132$626.14070@trndny08... it sounds as if you currently have an internally mounted zip drive in a dimension rxxx machine that you would like to use in a current model dell. this would work however there are some issues.... first, how to mount the 3.5" drive in the current dimension case is an issue. there is a bay for a 3.5" drive in the dimension 2400, 3000, 4600, and 4700 but it requires a bracket that is only available with the purchase of the 3.5" floppy drive. an alternative is to obtain a 5.25" bracket adapter for a 3.5" form factor drive. this allows you to mount the 3.5" zip drive in a cage that then will fit the 5.25" type form factor. the above mentioned machines have two 5.25" external bays that it could be mounted into. however, if you purchase the machine with two cd drives then you will have to eliminate one to provide space for the zip. next, you will have to connect it internally to the ide cable. on the 2400, 3000 and 4600 both the hard disk and the cd drives are connected to ide type cables. on the 4700 only the cd drives are connected to an ide cable (the hard drives use a different interface). so there can only be two ide devices in the 4700 and so you can only have one cd drive if you intend to connect the zip to the other possible spot. finally, if you don't place the zip in a 5.25" cage and mound it next to the cd drive then you will not likely be able to cable both a cd and the zip for data. i suggest that you simply purchase an external usb zip 100 for $35 or a external usb zip 250 drive for $49 from the iomega.com outlet and not bother with the internal drive. the zip 250 will read/write the older zip 100 disks but does it slower than the zip 100 drive would. of course the zip 250 can also read/write zip 250 disks whereas the zip 100 can not. there is also a zip 750 but i have no idea if it is backwards compatible with the 100 or 250... and given the fact that it lacks any popularity and that cdrw can store 700mb why bother. good luck. An external USB Zip, either new or used - might indeed be the best/easiest answer. I didn't consider that because the drives (like the discs themselves) are pricey for their limited capacity. Stew |
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FYI, the 750MB ZIP is not compatible with the 100 and the 250. I agree
completely that an external USB ZIP drive would be the best interim approach, with the long-term goal of getting rid of the ZIP cartridges... Ben Myers On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 04:12:31 GMT, "Christopher Muto" wrote: it sounds as if you currently have an internally mounted zip drive in a dimension rxxx machine that you would like to use in a current model dell. this would work however there are some issues.... first, how to mount the 3.5" drive in the current dimension case is an issue. there is a bay for a 3.5" drive in the dimension 2400, 3000, 4600, and 4700 but it requires a bracket that is only available with the purchase of the 3.5" floppy drive. an alternative is to obtain a 5.25" bracket adapter for a 3.5" form factor drive. this allows you to mount the 3.5" zip drive in a cage that then will fit the 5.25" type form factor. the above mentioned machines have two 5.25" external bays that it could be mounted into. however, if you purchase the machine with two cd drives then you will have to eliminate one to provide space for the zip. next, you will have to connect it internally to the ide cable. on the 2400, 3000 and 4600 both the hard disk and the cd drives are connected to ide type cables. on the 4700 only the cd drives are connected to an ide cable (the hard drives use a different interface). so there can only be two ide devices in the 4700 and so you can only have one cd drive if you intend to connect the zip to the other possible spot. finally, if you don't place the zip in a 5.25" cage and mound it next to the cd drive then you will not likely be able to cable both a cd and the zip for data. i suggest that you simply purchase an external usb zip 100 for $35 or a external usb zip 250 drive for $49 from the iomega.com outlet and not bother with the internal drive. the zip 250 will read/write the older zip 100 disks but does it slower than the zip 100 drive would. of course the zip 250 can also read/write zip 250 disks whereas the zip 100 can not. there is also a zip 750 but i have no idea if it is backwards compatible with the 100 or 250... and given the fact that it lacks any popularity and that cdrw can store 700mb why bother. good luck. wrote in message ... Would a modern XP machine (I am thinking Dimension 5100) recognize and install drivers for a 100 meg zip drive? Would I need to download drivers from anywhere? The zip drive is quite old, originally coming in a Dimension XPS R-400, but has been living in a newer XP box. These fit in a 3.5 slot I believe, is that correct? If this is not feasible, I guess I could try putting in her old hard drive and getting her documents from there, and switching her to USB Jump Drives, that should be close to the UI of the zip drives. -- Andrew Hall (Now reading Usenet in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell...) |
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