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Can I replace broken asus condensators with new abit???
or i need to buy new mb? _________________ Proactiv Solution world cup cricket shirts Poker Bonus Codes Play Online Poker Last edited by Avar : August 31st 07 at 08:09 AM. |
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"Avar" wrote in message ... Can I replace broken asus condensators with new abit??? or i need to buy new mb? What is a condensator? -- Avar |
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"Venom" wrote in message ... "Avar" wrote in message ... Can I replace broken asus condensators with new abit??? or i need to buy new mb? What is a condensator? I sincerely hope he doesn't mean capacitors. If so, that would be jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire by going to Abit. You all remember what happened with their capacitors awhile back. Ron |
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No, you cannot switch parts from one motherboard to another. Time for a new
motherboard. -- DaveW ---------------- "Avar" wrote in message ... Can I replace broken asus condensators with new abit??? or i need to buy new mb? -- Avar |
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Wrong answer.
IF he means capacitors, sure they can be replaced. I'm not sure why he would want an "ABit capacitor", but in any case, assuming that the capacitor is good, it would work .... even if it was removed as a used part from another motherboard, it would work, IF it was a good part and if he didn't damage it in the process of removing it. That said, in electronics, a capacitor is a very generic part. So the question is kind of like asking "Can I replace a 6-32x1/2" screw from my Chevrolet with one from my Ford?". The answer might well be yes, you could do that, but it would make much more sense just to go to a hardware store and buy a new 6-32x1/2" screw. But, in any case, replacing a motherboard because a capacitor is bad is kind of like replacing a car because a tire became punctured. Why would you replace a $150 {or whatever} motherboard because a 79-cent part is bad? DaveW wrote: No, you cannot switch parts from one motherboard to another. Time for a new motherboard. |
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"Barry Watzman" wrote in message ... Wrong answer. IF he means capacitors, sure they can be replaced. I'm not sure why he would want an "ABit capacitor", but in any case, assuming that the capacitor is good, it would work .... even if it was removed as a used part from another motherboard, it would work, IF it was a good part and if he didn't damage it in the process of removing it. That said, in electronics, a capacitor is a very generic part. So the question is kind of like asking "Can I replace a 6-32x1/2" screw from my Chevrolet with one from my Ford?". The answer might well be yes, you could do that, but it would make much more sense just to go to a hardware store and buy a new 6-32x1/2" screw. But, in any case, replacing a motherboard because a capacitor is bad is kind of like replacing a car because a tire became punctured. Why would you replace a $150 {or whatever} motherboard because a 79-cent part is bad? Your analogy is a poor one. How much would it cost to get a capacitor fitted _professionally_ (assuming that you found someone to do it)? DaveW wrote: No, you cannot switch parts from one motherboard to another. Time for a new motherboard. |
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snip our analogy is a poor one. How much would it cost to get a capacitor fitted _professionally_ (assuming that you found someone to do it)? DaveW wrote: No, you cannot switch parts from one motherboard to another. Time for a new motherboard. You can switch caps from one board to another but they would have to be an exact match for the one you are replacing. It is hard to buy those old caps these days and if one is leaking then the rest will soon follow. Some guys skilled in soldering have replaced caps but why would you bother? The other post is very accurate too because if you have to pay to have this work done then replacing it will be much cheaper. |
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A little knowledge is required to replace components on a mobo with a
reasonable amount of soldering ability. Gotta remember to use low ESR 105 deg C. types... 125 deg C. types are are available.... use either Rubycon Low ESR or Panasonic FC types or better, available from many electronic component supplier. Do not use standard type's, they will fail in a very short period of time...! They must have the same value usually in uF, the voltage rating can be higher but not lower and must be the same size. Don't forget they are polarised and need to be connected the right way round, too big a soldering iron will damage the board. These are multi-layer board's... no, no I don't mean double sided....! To clean the plated through hole's I like to use a thin steel needle... using wire to clean the holes is bound to damage the board because the solder will stick to the wire. The iron ought not to be greater than 15 Watts, But are we really sure...? What if he mean's SMD ceramic or SMD electrolytic capacitors..... how are they broken...? These devils do fall off and are easily damaged by rough handling, hence the question. See-: Bad cap's in mobo's http://home.earthlink.net/~doniteli/index27.htm is this what you mean..? Unless one has a reasonable amount of experience I'd be inclined to take DaveW advice on getting a new mobo if one can't get new parts, different mobo's will have different parts.. hi temperature standard type, hi temperature low ESR type.... they look the same but marked different. Davy |
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"Davy" wrote in message ... A little knowledge is required to replace components on a mobo with a reasonable amount of soldering ability. Gotta remember to use low ESR 105 deg C. types... 125 deg C. types are are available.... use either Rubycon Low ESR or Panasonic FC types or better, available from many electronic component supplier. Do not use standard type's, they will fail in a very short period of time...! They must have the same value usually in uF, the voltage rating can be higher but not lower and must be the same size. Don't forget they are polarised and need to be connected the right way round, too big a soldering iron will damage the board. These are multi-layer board's... no, no I don't mean double sided....! To clean the plated through hole's I like to use a thin steel needle... Questions: Why won't solder stick to the needle? What kind of needle is it? What metal is it made of? How exactly do you use the needle and soldering iron? using wire to clean the holes is bound to damage the board because the solder will stick to the wire. The iron ought not to be greater than 15 Watts, But are we really sure...? What if he mean's SMD ceramic or SMD electrolytic capacitors..... how are they broken...? These devils do fall off and are easily damaged by rough handling, hence the question. He did mean full size radial electrolytics. See-: Bad cap's in mobo's http://home.earthlink.net/~doniteli/index27.htm is this what you mean..? Thanks for that website. Unless one has a reasonable amount of experience I'd be inclined to take DaveW advice on getting a new mobo if one can't get new parts, different mobo's will have different parts.. hi temperature standard type, hi temperature low ESR type.... they look the same but marked different. Yes, it is essential to get the correct replacement components. Thanks for reminding us about this easily forgotten point. Sylvain. Davy |
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There is no reason to assume that the caps would have to be an exact
match. It would help to have a schematic, but they are probably power supply filter caps, which are not critical at all. Keep in mind, the board is working with the capacitor in question not even present at all. Venom wrote: snip our analogy is a poor one. How much would it cost to get a capacitor fitted _professionally_ (assuming that you found someone to do it)? DaveW wrote: No, you cannot switch parts from one motherboard to another. Time for a new motherboard. You can switch caps from one board to another but they would have to be an exact match for the one you are replacing. It is hard to buy those old caps these days and if one is leaking then the rest will soon follow. Some guys skilled in soldering have replaced caps but why would you bother? The other post is very accurate too because if you have to pay to have this work done then replacing it will be much cheaper. |
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