Laptop Hard Disk

"Joel de Guzman" wrote in message
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Hi,

I have a digital-audio hard disk recorder (Roland VS880) that
uses an internal Laptop IDE hard drive. I once forgot to turn it
off for a week! Unfortunately, the (dumb?) OS in the VS880
kept on spinning the HD drive continuously. When I found out
that I didn't turn it off, I huriedly shut it down. The bad part is
that when I rebooted, the HD went dead, along with all my data.

Has anyone encountered such a problem with Laptop HDs?
Is there any chance to resurrect the HD or extract the data?
I know this is a shot in the dark, but I wanted to ask anyway.
I can do some electronics if needed.


If the disk has died, you *might* be able to resurrect it for ong enough to
extract the data if you chill it (in a sealed bag) in the freezer

"Joel de Guzman" wrote in message
...
I have a digital-audio hard disk recorder (Roland VS880) that
uses an internal Laptop IDE hard drive. I once forgot to turn it
off for a week! Unfortunately, the (dumb?) OS in the VS880
kept on spinning the HD drive continuously. When I found out
that I didn't turn it off, I huriedly shut it down. The bad part is
that when I rebooted, the HD went dead, along with all my data.

Has anyone encountered such a problem with Laptop HDs?
Is there any chance to resurrect the HD or extract the data?
I know this is a shot in the dark, but I wanted to ask anyway.
I can do some electronics if needed.


We use 2.5" notebook hard drives in industrial computers that run
non-stop for 5 years or more so the failure of yours after just a week
of continuous operation must be just coincidental.

I agree with other replies. Even a notebook HDD should not die because of a
week's power-on time. This is probably a coincidence, barring the
possibility that you inadvertently exposed it to a big shock in your hurry
to shut it down.

It may be possible to revive it, depending on the actual problem. If the
control card is faulty, you may be able to find a replacement from the
junkbox of a computer service. This would mean good relations with one. If
the head-disk assembly is faulty, this is usually final. Of course, there
are a number of companies which salvage whatever is possible form a crashed
disk, but this may be painful financially.

Good luck,
Engin

"Joel de Guzman" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I have a digital-audio hard disk recorder (Roland VS880) that
uses an internal Laptop IDE hard drive. I once forgot to turn it
off for a week! Unfortunately, the (dumb?) OS in the VS880
kept on spinning the HD drive continuously. When I found out
that I didn't turn it off, I huriedly shut it down. The bad part is
that when I rebooted, the HD went dead, along with all my data.

Has anyone encountered such a problem with Laptop HDs?
Is there any chance to resurrect the HD or extract the data?
I know this is a shot in the dark, but I wanted to ask anyway.
I can do some electronics if needed.

TIA,
--Joel

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"Joel de Guzman" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I have a digital-audio hard disk recorder (Roland VS880)
that
uses an internal Laptop IDE hard drive. I once forgot to
turn it
off for a week! Unfortunately, the (dumb?) OS in the
VS880
kept on spinning the HD drive continuously. When I found
out
that I didn't turn it off, I huriedly shut it down. The
bad part is
that when I rebooted, the HD went dead, along with all
my data.

Has anyone encountered such a problem with Laptop HDs?
Is there any chance to resurrect the HD or extract the
data?
I know this is a shot in the dark, but I wanted to ask
anyway.
I can do some electronics if needed.


If the disk has died, you *might* be able to resurrect it
for ong enough to extract the data if you chill it (in a
sealed bag) in the freezer

That's a rather *COOL* idea. I'll go try it out.
Thanks!
--
Joel

"Alien Zord" wrote in message

I have a digital-audio hard disk recorder (Roland VS880)
that
uses an internal Laptop IDE hard drive. I once forgot to
turn it off for a week! Unfortunately, the (dumb?) OS in
the VS880
kept on spinning the HD drive continuously. When I found
out
that I didn't turn it off, I huriedly shut it down. The
bad part is that when I rebooted, the HD went dead,
along with all my data.

Has anyone encountered such a problem with Laptop HDs?
Is there any chance to resurrect the HD or extract the
data?
I know this is a shot in the dark, but I wanted to ask
anyway.
I can do some electronics if needed.


We use 2.5" notebook hard drives in industrial computers
that run non-stop for 5 years or more so the failure of
yours after just a week of continuous operation must be
just coincidental.

Perhaps. However, typically, even if HDs in industrial computers
are *on* non-stop for years, the software accesses to the disk
happen only in bursts, not continuously. The HD has time to rest.
Not in this case, I guess.

--
Joel

Roland's hard drives are usually driven by ancient software routines, it is
really strange but then what isn't from Roland, just try reading the
manuals.
If you have USB2.0 or a friend that has it, you can get an external box to
mount the drive and see if a PC can see it. You should also contact Roland
support and see if they can help you--they did help us with an allegedly
dead hard drive in a MC80. You may even be able to send it to them and see
if they can recover the data for you.
JB
"Joel de Guzman" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I have a digital-audio hard disk recorder (Roland VS880) that
uses an internal Laptop IDE hard drive. I once forgot to turn it
off for a week! Unfortunately, the (dumb?) OS in the VS880
kept on spinning the HD drive continuously. When I found out
that I didn't turn it off, I huriedly shut it down. The bad part is
that when I rebooted, the HD went dead, along with all my data.

Has anyone encountered such a problem with Laptop HDs?
Is there any chance to resurrect the HD or extract the data?
I know this is a shot in the dark, but I wanted to ask anyway.
I can do some electronics if needed.

TIA,
--Joel

"JB Seattle" wrote in message
rthlink.net

Roland's hard drives are usually driven by ancient
software routines, it is really strange but then what
isn't from Roland, just try reading the manuals.
If you have USB2.0 or a friend that has it, you can get
an external box to mount the drive and see if a PC can
see it. You should also contact Roland support and see
if they can help you--they did help us with an allegedly
dead hard drive in a MC80. You may even be able to send
it to them and see if they can recover the data for you.
JB

This is the best advice, so far. I have USB2.0, but I'm not sure
how that will help. The VS880 does not have any USB. Anyway,
perhaps I could get a mounting kit to connect the 2.5 HDs into
my desktop PC and try to read the data. I heard somewhere that
the format is DOS compatible.

If all else fails, I'll freeze the drive ;-)

Thanks and Regards,
--
Joel

The drives usually are a DOS but a real old one--there are mounting kits you
can get at computer outlets that let you mount practically any drive in it
and then connect via USB2.0.
But I would call Roland too.
JB
"Joel de Guzman" wrote in message
...
"JB Seattle" wrote in message
rthlink.net

Roland's hard drives are usually driven by ancient
software routines, it is really strange but then what
isn't from Roland, just try reading the manuals.
If you have USB2.0 or a friend that has it, you can get
an external box to mount the drive and see if a PC can
see it. You should also contact Roland support and see
if they can help you--they did help us with an allegedly
dead hard drive in a MC80. You may even be able to send
it to them and see if they can recover the data for you.
JB

This is the best advice, so far. I have USB2.0, but I'm not sure
how that will help. The VS880 does not have any USB. Anyway,
perhaps I could get a mounting kit to connect the 2.5 HDs into
my desktop PC and try to read the data. I heard somewhere that
the format is DOS compatible.

If all else fails, I'll freeze the drive ;-)

Thanks and Regards,
--
Joel