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Old October 19th 06, 07:25 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,24hoursupport.helpdesk
02befree
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Default Bad clusters on one partition

I have a 200GB WD that is divided into 5 partitions. One of them has 4kb in
bad clusters according to CHKDSK. Is it worth trying to run SpinRite or HDD
Regenerator to fix this? Does that mean the other partitions are OK?.....
A little advice here would be appreciated. The WD Diag utitlily gave it a
SMART fail in the Raw Read Write category.


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Old October 19th 06, 07:32 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,24hoursupport.helpdesk
philo
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Default Bad clusters on one partition


"02befree" wrote in message
. ..
I have a 200GB WD that is divided into 5 partitions. One of them has 4kb

in
bad clusters according to CHKDSK. Is it worth trying to run SpinRite or

HDD
Regenerator to fix this? Does that mean the other partitions are OK?.....
A little advice here would be appreciated. The WD Diag utitlily gave it a
SMART fail in the Raw Read Write category.



A few bad clusters are not always something to worry about...
and it's not worth it trying to recover them...

****however**** the SMART fail means that you need to backup and *replace*
the drive ASAP...

if it's still under warranty get an RMA


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Old October 19th 06, 07:37 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,24hoursupport.helpdesk
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Default Bad clusters on one partition

02befree wrote:

I have a 200GB WD that is divided into 5 partitions. One of them has 4kb in
bad clusters according to CHKDSK. Is it worth trying to run SpinRite or HDD
Regenerator to fix this? Does that mean the other partitions are OK?.....
A little advice here would be appreciated. The WD Diag utitlily gave it a
SMART fail in the Raw Read Write category.



It is ALWAYS worth running Spinrite. The "bad clusters" may not
be bad at all, but merely no longer directly in the path of the
r/w heads. Spinrite will fix that. That's why you paid the big
money for the program.
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Old October 19th 06, 09:19 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,24hoursupport.helpdesk
Douglas C. Neidermeyer
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Default Bad clusters on one partition

"02befree" wrote in message
. ..
I have a 200GB WD that is divided into 5 partitions. One of them has 4kb
in
bad clusters according to CHKDSK. Is it worth trying to run SpinRite or
HDD
Regenerator to fix this? Does that mean the other partitions are OK?.....
A little advice here would be appreciated. The WD Diag utitlily gave it a
SMART fail in the Raw Read Write category.


Compare the value of your data with the cost of a new HD....kind of a
no-brainer about getting a new one, huh?

Doug


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Old October 19th 06, 10:06 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,24hoursupport.helpdesk
ian field
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Default Bad clusters on one partition


"02befree" wrote in message
. ..
I have a 200GB WD that is divided into 5 partitions. One of them has 4kb
in
bad clusters according to CHKDSK. Is it worth trying to run SpinRite or
HDD
Regenerator to fix this? Does that mean the other partitions are OK?.....
A little advice here would be appreciated. The WD Diag utitlily gave it a
SMART fail in the Raw Read Write category.



Most modern HDs electronically re-map any bad sectors so you never actually
see them, if there has become more than the drive can disguise its time to
start thinking about a new drive.

OTOH some types of virus conceal the body of their code in fake (falsely
marked as bad) bad sectors. Rare these days, but can't say it never happens!


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Old October 20th 06, 12:30 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,24hoursupport.helpdesk
Arno Wagner
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Default Bad clusters on one partition

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage 02befree wrote:
I have a 200GB WD that is divided into 5 partitions. One of them has 4kb in
bad clusters according to CHKDSK. Is it worth trying to run SpinRite or HDD
Regenerator to fix this? Does that mean the other partitions are OK?.....
A little advice here would be appreciated. The WD Diag utitlily gave it a
SMART fail in the Raw Read Write category.


4kB is one cluster exactly. But the fialed SMART means the disk is dying.
You migh get it to work for a few days or even weeks, but it will die.

Arno




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Old October 20th 06, 12:31 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,24hoursupport.helpdesk
Arno Wagner
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Default Bad clusters on one partition

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage SgtMinor wrote:
02befree wrote:


I have a 200GB WD that is divided into 5 partitions. One of them has 4kb in
bad clusters according to CHKDSK. Is it worth trying to run SpinRite or HDD
Regenerator to fix this? Does that mean the other partitions are OK?.....
A little advice here would be appreciated. The WD Diag utitlily gave it a
SMART fail in the Raw Read Write category.



It is ALWAYS worth running Spinrite. The "bad clusters" may not
be bad at all, but merely no longer directly in the path of the
r/w heads. Spinrite will fix that. That's why you paid the big
money for the program.


With todays ECC on disks, SpinRite is essentially worthless.
It was different a long time ago.

Arno

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Old October 20th 06, 12:32 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,24hoursupport.helpdesk
Arno Wagner
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Default Bad clusters on one partition

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage ian field wrote:

"02befree" wrote in message
. ..
I have a 200GB WD that is divided into 5 partitions. One of them has 4kb
in
bad clusters according to CHKDSK. Is it worth trying to run SpinRite or
HDD
Regenerator to fix this? Does that mean the other partitions are OK?.....
A little advice here would be appreciated. The WD Diag utitlily gave it a
SMART fail in the Raw Read Write category.



Most modern HDs electronically re-map any bad sectors so you never actually
see them, if there has become more than the drive can disguise its time to
start thinking about a new drive.


OTOH some types of virus conceal the body of their code in fake (falsely
marked as bad) bad sectors. Rare these days, but can't say it never happens!


Rare, because modern virusses are too large for that. And they cannot
cause a bad SMART status.

Arno
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Old October 20th 06, 01:11 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,24hoursupport.helpdesk
Rod Speed
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Default Bad clusters on one partition

SgtMinor wrote
02befree wrote


I have a 200GB WD that is divided into 5 partitions. One of them
has 4kb in bad clusters according to CHKDSK. Is it worth trying to
run SpinRite or HDD Regenerator to fix this? Does that mean the
other partitions are OK?..... A little advice here would be
appreciated. The WD Diag utitlily gave it a SMART fail in the Raw
Read Write category.


It is ALWAYS worth running Spinrite.


Nope.

The "bad clusters" may not be bad at all, but merely no longer directly in the path of the r/w
heads.


Not even possible with servo drives.

Spinrite will fix that.


Nope.

That's why you paid the big money for the program.


Nope, he got scammed. So did you.


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Old October 20th 06, 03:00 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,24hoursupport.helpdesk
SgtMinor
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Default Bad clusters on one partition

Arno Wagner wrote:
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage SgtMinor wrote:

02befree wrote:



I have a 200GB WD that is divided into 5 partitions. One of them has 4kb in
bad clusters according to CHKDSK. Is it worth trying to run SpinRite or HDD
Regenerator to fix this? Does that mean the other partitions are OK?.....
A little advice here would be appreciated. The WD Diag utitlily gave it a
SMART fail in the Raw Read Write category.




It is ALWAYS worth running Spinrite. The "bad clusters" may not
be bad at all, but merely no longer directly in the path of the
r/w heads. Spinrite will fix that. That's why you paid the big
money for the program.



With todays ECC on disks, SpinRite is essentially worthless.
It was different a long time ago.

Arno


If your lost data is worthless you should not worry about
retrieving it.
 




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