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July 8th 06, 12:53 PM
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HDTune 2.52 unable to get the SMART info from USB drive?
I just bought a 300 GB INOi external drive (USB2.0). It uses a WDC
WD3000JB-22KFA0 ATA drive inside the enclosure. HDTune is unable to get any information on the health, temperature etc for this USB drive. It does that fine for my SATA internal drives. Is that normal/expected? I'm running XP Pro (all patched up). -- Aloke ---- to reply by e-mail remove 123 and change invalid to com 
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July 8th 06, 04:49 PM
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HDTune 2.52 unable to get the SMART info from USB drive?
Previously Aloke Prasad wrote:
I just bought a 300 GB INOi external drive (USB2.0). It uses a WDC WD3000JB-22KFA0 ATA drive inside the enclosure. HDTune is unable to get any information on the health, temperature etc for this USB drive. It does that fine for my SATA internal drives. Is that normal/expected? I'm running XP Pro (all patched up). USB cannot transport ATA SMART commands. You have to remove rthe disk from the enclosure and connect it to an ATA interface to read the SMART status. Arno
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July 8th 06, 06:29 PM
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HDTune 2.52 unable to get the SMART info from USB drive?
"Arno Wagner" wrote in message ... Previously Aloke Prasad wrote: I just bought a 300 GB INOi external drive (USB2.0). It uses a WDC WD3000JB-22KFA0 ATA drive inside the enclosure. HDTune is unable to get any information on the health, temperature etc for this USB drive. It does that fine for my SATA internal drives. Is that normal/expected? I'm running XP Pro (all patched up). USB cannot transport ATA SMART commands. You have to remove rthe disk from the enclosure and connect it to an ATA interface to read the SMART status. Thanks for the info. -- Aloke ---- to reply by e-mail remove 123 and change invalid to com
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July 8th 06, 07:23 PM
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HDTune 2.52 unable to get the SMART info from USB drive?
Aloke Prasad wrote:
I just bought a 300 GB INOi external drive (USB2.0). It uses a WDC WD3000JB-22KFA0 ATA drive inside the enclosure. HDTune is unable to get any information on the health, temperature etc for this USB drive. It does that fine for my SATA internal drives. Is that normal/expected? Yes, its the main downside with USB and firewire drives. You'll find that eSATA external drives are fine too. I'm running XP Pro (all patched up). Why did you damage it so much it needed to be patched up ?
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July 8th 06, 07:47 PM
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HDTune 2.52 unable to get the SMART info from USB drive?
"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... Aloke Prasad wrote: I just bought a 300 GB INOi external drive (USB2.0). It uses a WDC WD3000JB-22KFA0 ATA drive inside the enclosure. HDTune is unable to get any information on the health, temperature etc for this USB drive. It does that fine for my SATA internal drives. Is that normal/expected? Yes, its the main downside with USB and firewire drives. You'll find that eSATA external drives are fine too. I'm running XP Pro (all patched up). Why did you damage it so much it needed to be patched up ? It came damaged :-) I meant "all updated with the latest MS updates." -- Aloke ---- to reply by e-mail remove 123 and change invalid to com
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July 11th 06, 06:00 AM
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HDTune 2.52 unable to get the SMART info from USB drive?
"Arno Wagner" wrote in message
Previously Aloke Prasad wrote: I just bought a 300 GB INOi external drive (USB2.0). It uses a WDC WD3000JB-22KFA0 ATA drive inside the enclosure. HDTune is unable to get any information on the health, temperature etc for this USB drive. It does that fine for my SATA internal drives. Is that normal/expected? I'm running XP Pro (all patched up). USB cannot transport ATA SMART commands. Nothing to do with USB. Obviously USB supports ATA and ATAPI commands (in some way or other). Everything to do with the firmware (mostly) in the individual USB to ATA/ATAPI conversion devices and the drivers of USB Hostadapters to allow a S.M.A.R.T. plug-in. You have to remove the disk from the enclosure and connect it to an ATA interface to read the SMART status. Arno
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July 16th 06, 09:51 PM
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HDTune 2.52 unable to get the SMART info from USB drive?
Arno Wagner writes:
Previously Aloke Prasad wrote: I just bought a 300 GB INOi external drive (USB2.0). It uses a WDC WD3000JB-22KFA0 ATA drive inside the enclosure. HDTune is unable to get any information on the health, temperature etc for this USB drive. It does that fine for my SATA internal drives. Is that normal/expected? I'm running XP Pro (all patched up). USB cannot transport ATA SMART commands. You have to remove rthe disk from the enclosure and connect it to an ATA interface to read the SMART status. Is that really true? It was my understanding it's an issue of OS support for SMART via USA & SMART via Firewire.... -- A host is a host from coast to & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
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July 16th 06, 10:32 PM
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HDTune 2.52 unable to get the SMART info from USB drive?
David Lesher wrote
Arno Wagner writes Aloke Prasad wrote I just bought a 300 GB INOi external drive (USB2.0). It uses a WDC WD3000JB-22KFA0 ATA drive inside the enclosure. HDTune is unable to get any information on the health, temperature etc for this USB drive. It does that fine for my SATA internal drives. Is that normal/expected? I'm running XP Pro (all patched up). USB cannot transport ATA SMART commands. You have to remove the disk from the enclosure and connect it to an ATA interface to read the SMART status. Is that really true? Yes. It was my understanding it's an issue of OS support for SMART via USA & SMART via Firewire.... Nope, the problem is that that stuff doesnt get thru the bridge in the external enclosure.
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July 17th 06, 01:15 AM
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HDTune 2.52 unable to get the SMART info from USB drive?
"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... David Lesher wrote Arno Wagner writes Aloke Prasad wrote I just bought a 300 GB INOi external drive (USB2.0). It uses a WDC WD3000JB-22KFA0 ATA drive inside the enclosure. HDTune is unable to get any information on the health, temperature etc for this USB drive. It does that fine for my SATA internal drives. Is that normal/expected? I'm running XP Pro (all patched up). USB cannot transport ATA SMART commands. You have to remove the disk from the enclosure and connect it to an ATA interface to read the SMART status. Is that really true? Yes. It was my understanding it's an issue of OS support for SMART via USA & SMART via Firewire.... Nope, the problem is that that stuff doesnt get thru the bridge in the external enclosure. So, is it the enclosure's fault? Will a properly designed USB 2 enclosure allow the SMART info from ATA drives to get passed on to the OS? -- Aloke ---- to reply by e-mail remove 123 and change invalid to com
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July 17th 06, 01:48 AM
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HDTune 2.52 unable to get the SMART info from USB drive?
"Aloke Prasad" wrote in message
"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... David Lesher wrote Arno Wagner writes Aloke Prasad wrote I just bought a 300 GB INOi external drive (USB2.0). It uses a WDC WD3000JB-22KFA0 ATA drive inside the enclosure. HDTune is unable to get any information on the health, temperature etc for this USB drive. It does that fine for my SATA internal drives. Is that normal/expected? I'm running XP Pro (all patched up). USB cannot transport ATA SMART commands. Nope. You have to remove the disk from the enclosure and connect it to an ATA interface to read the SMART status. Is that really true? Yes. In practice, for most if not all. It was my understanding it's an issue of OS support for SMART via USA & SMART via Firewire.... Nope, the problem is that that stuff doesnt get thru the bridge in the external enclosure. Usually. So, is it the enclosure's fault? Usually. You also need a S.M.A.R.T. plugin for the USB driver. Will a properly designed USB 2 enclosure allow the SMART info from ATA drives to get passed on to the OS? And the necessary commands to reach the drive in the first place.
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