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More Delayed Sandisk Weirdities
A year ago or more I got into some new Micro Sandisk cards.
Four or five of them: 16 32 and 64G. New speed Ultra/Pro stuff to older ratings. The newest and fastest ones, 64G, I thought I'd bricked. Then, I recently got a 7" HandDroid, running a variant of *NIX, like most do. Turns out, with the HandDroid, I can format one of the 64G, a 32G, all newer standards, as well as the slower variants of both a 32G and 16G. On the PC (with a Kingston Micro-memory USB adaptor), however, it doesn't like anything other and but Slow Standards. One of the 64G appears consequently bricked and ruined due to PC attempts to format. What FAT32 for a HandDroid "standard" means, evidently to the faster variants of these memory boards, is something entirely Greek in PC terms. At least I do have now usage of the faster 32G and one similar 64G. I still have yet further compatibility steps to test the faster cards from a more modern Windows USB connection. The HandDroid will not connect to less than Windows 7. As it is, I can work solely through the Kingston adaptor, copying files with the slower variants of memory cards, from an older Windows. Those faster cards, though, are bad news from an older Windows OS. When I attempted to format them a year ago with FAT32, they were rendered irrecoverable and I thought bricked (one 64G still is and the HandDroid errors or won't sequence into a format for it). Good news is those faster cards apparently do work, aren't a total write-off after keeping them for this chance contingency. I'll still run with the 32G slower card for greatest PC compatibility, though. The HandDroid, wouldn't you know it, apparently wants the faster stuff -- and may display some sort of OS routine and reminder everytime it sees it. That's just a HandDroid, though: As a class, intrusive as hell and don't give a good damn, so long as you're registered to a cloud where they can track you. Mine's OFF: I bought it for a book-reading device, which pleases me in that respect;- And a bunch of books obviously needn't qualify for potentially bricking the whole damn shebang over a RootKit. Funny how that worked out, though. It was like a $10 handheld MP3 player that side-tracked me into identifying potential FAT32 format issues between a stated standard of memory devices for a HandDroid, PC, and whatever Sandisk else (Western Digital) is up to with the high-speed "ultra and pro" series cards. There's memory and then there's memory. And Fat32 doesn't necessarily mean what it used to mean if you cross the line between these card types. |
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More Delayed Sandisk Weirdities
Flasherly wrote:
A year ago or more I got into some new Micro Sandisk cards. Four or five of them: 16 32 and 64G. New speed Ultra/Pro stuff to older ratings. The newest and fastest ones, 64G, I thought I'd bricked. Then, I recently got a 7" HandDroid, running a variant of *NIX, like most do. Turns out, with the HandDroid, I can format one of the 64G, a 32G, all newer standards, as well as the slower variants of both a 32G and 16G. On the PC (with a Kingston Micro-memory USB adaptor), however, it doesn't like anything other and but Slow Standards. One of the 64G appears consequently bricked and ruined due to PC attempts to format. What FAT32 for a HandDroid "standard" means, evidently to the faster variants of these memory boards, is something entirely Greek in PC terms. At least I do have now usage of the faster 32G and one similar 64G. I still have yet further compatibility steps to test the faster cards from a more modern Windows USB connection. The HandDroid will not connect to less than Windows 7. As it is, I can work solely through the Kingston adaptor, copying files with the slower variants of memory cards, from an older Windows. Those faster cards, though, are bad news from an older Windows OS. When I attempted to format them a year ago with FAT32, they were rendered irrecoverable and I thought bricked (one 64G still is and the HandDroid errors or won't sequence into a format for it). Good news is those faster cards apparently do work, aren't a total write-off after keeping them for this chance contingency. I'll still run with the 32G slower card for greatest PC compatibility, though. The HandDroid, wouldn't you know it, apparently wants the faster stuff -- and may display some sort of OS routine and reminder everytime it sees it. That's just a HandDroid, though: As a class, intrusive as hell and don't give a good damn, so long as you're registered to a cloud where they can track you. Mine's OFF: I bought it for a book-reading device, which pleases me in that respect;- And a bunch of books obviously needn't qualify for potentially bricking the whole damn shebang over a RootKit. Funny how that worked out, though. It was like a $10 handheld MP3 player that side-tracked me into identifying potential FAT32 format issues between a stated standard of memory devices for a HandDroid, PC, and whatever Sandisk else (Western Digital) is up to with the high-speed "ultra and pro" series cards. There's memory and then there's memory. And Fat32 doesn't necessarily mean what it used to mean if you cross the line between these card types. Not true. The controllers (inside the mobile device, or on a card reader on your desktop) implement different generations of standards. Maybe you need something newer than your Kingston. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SD_card SDSC: 1 MiB to 2 GiB SDHC: 2 GiB to 32 GiB == pretty common limit SDXC: 32 GiB to 2 TiB == your 64GB SD card needs this SDUC: 2 TiB to 128 TiB FAT32 is a file system that sits on top of that. An alternative is ExFAT (which can be added to WinXP SP3 with a downloadable package). You could pick up something that looks better than this one, for the SDXC version of SD Card. https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E1682075...82E16820752002 Paul |
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More Delayed Sandisk Weirdities
On Sat, 08 Jun 2019 09:29:56 -0400, Paul
wrote: Not true. The controllers (inside the mobile device, or on a card reader on your desktop) implement different generations of standards. Maybe you need something newer than your Kingston. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SD_card SDSC: 1 MiB to 2 GiB SDHC: 2 GiB to 32 GiB == pretty common limit SDXC: 32 GiB to 2 TiB == your 64GB SD card needs this SDUC: 2 TiB to 128 TiB FAT32 is a file system that sits on top of that. An alternative is ExFAT (which can be added to WinXP SP3 with a downloadable package). You could pick up something that looks better than this one, for the SDXC version of SD Card. https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E1682075...82E16820752002 Paul That thought did actually occur to me. Be curious to see what a new model, multi-sized SD card USB-to-PC adaptor (Kingston Tech: Part# FCR-HS219/7) might be up to these days. Mine would go back ages and ages, or closer to where the latest or smallest Micro SD card were first coming out;- And, no doubt, well before these Sandisk series Ultra/Pro "Class speeds" were released. The issues are apparently confined to speeds, standards and their nomenclatures: earlier and slower Micro-SD speeds neither have compatibility issues with PC, Droid OS, or Kingston. Whereas the HandDroid would object if a slower card is inserted: I have to terminate the OS-to-firmware SD Card detection routine, (catch all phrased to register to its parent Cloud Services for ostensible "card-type" updates), whereupon it will function without issue for older and slower Sandisk 16 and 32G cards. Functional means it will format at stated compatibility for FAT32 standards. Attempting to write to that through the Kingston is an eventuality and lock-up situation, rendering the card effectively bricked and no longer identifiable for PC purposes. Of the many afore combinations possible, I haven't tried them to test on Windows7, where the HandDroid does do any actual PC talking, (though a USB interface cable for principally Explorer file copying operations, or unprincipled rewriting it in entirety from developer RootKit perspectives). I'll keep the Kingston, though, as it is operationally functional for copying purposes, with a slow SD standard across HandDroid and old PC standards. (Appears I actually did brick one of the fastest 64G SD card series, an ULTRA class Sandisk while attempting to format it with FAT32 repeatedly over a course of various Disk Management tools. At least to the point where the HandDroid want's nothing to do with it either.) |
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More Delayed Sandisk Weirdities
On Sat, 08 Jun 2019 19:05:07 -0400, Flasherly
wrote: I'll keep the Kingston, though, as it is operationally functional for copying purposes, with a slow SD standard across HandDroid and old PC standards. 6 KB/s at a "Class 5" speed rating, I'm getting. The last SD card I got (for that MP3 player -- out in the car or I'd pull it for alooksee) not sure if it may be somewhat faster, but would be a 32G card. I don't believe larger capacity SD, 32G, is longer manufactured at slower ratings. Slower SD is, perhaps being a misqualification, to apply to the MP3 unit for compatibility. I'd have to format a faster card from the HandDroid and juggle around some MP3 files, get them copied to the faster memory on a valid SD format -- transfer the card to the MP3 unit to see if it takes. There are a lot more ratings and classes than a a couple Sandisk cards I have, or a slow Canon 32G SD, I happened across from 5 or 10 years ago, which I settled for (and first posted): working operability with the Kingston adaptor, an older OS .and. this new HandDroid. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...f_memory_cards The MP3 unit as well accepts a standard USB flashstick for additional external memory. I have it equipped for 96G storage: 64G USB + 32G SD. I believe in principle this HandDroid does the same thing, will accept for augmented "system memory", for applications and storage, both memory from USB and SD ports. (From a micro USB port fitting but of course.) |
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