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Old December 9th 03, 07:08 AM
Phil, Squid-in-Training
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Hey group. I'm wondering what the difference between the different XPs are.
I know that there are 133 and 166 versions of each, but it appears that big
gains are attained with the 2700 and 2800 (at 333ddr). I'm upgrading my
comp because it got fried this past summer and I've been using a laptop ever
since, but I'm selling the laptop very soon. My XP1900 was marginally
faster than the 1800, but it was quite a bit more when I bought it.

So what's the word? I'm going for a $100 proc, and the highest I'm really
willing to go is $110. Lower is better, but I'm trying to get the most bang
for the buck.

Also, can anybody suggest a cheap mobo for me? LAN, sound (2 or 6 ch), no
onboard video, no SATA, no RAID, parallel port, and at least 2 onboard USB.
Will I need a special motherboard for the 166DDR FSB wacky procs?

Thanks a bunch!

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Old December 9th 03, 08:26 AM
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 07:08:21 GMT, "Phil, Squid-in-Training"
wrote:

Hey group. I'm wondering what the difference between the different XPs are.
I know that there are 133 and 166 versions of each, but it appears that big
gains are attained with the 2700 and 2800 (at 333ddr). I'm upgrading my
comp because it got fried this past summer and I've been using a laptop ever
since, but I'm selling the laptop very soon. My XP1900 was marginally
faster than the 1800, but it was quite a bit more when I bought it.

So what's the word? I'm going for a $100 proc, and the highest I'm really
willing to go is $110. Lower is better, but I'm trying to get the most bang
for the buck.

Also, can anybody suggest a cheap mobo for me? LAN, sound (2 or 6 ch), no
onboard video, no SATA, no RAID, parallel port, and at least 2 onboard USB.
Will I need a special motherboard for the 166DDR FSB wacky procs?


MSI K7N2 Delta-L


Thanks a bunch!



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Old December 9th 03, 08:42 AM
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Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote:
Hey group. I'm wondering what the difference between the different XPs
are. I know that there are 133 and 166 versions of each, but it appears
that big gains are attained with the 2700 and 2800 (at 333ddr). I'm
upgrading my comp because it got fried this past summer and I've been
using a laptop ever since, but I'm selling the laptop very soon. My
XP1900 was marginally faster than the 1800, but it was quite a bit more
when I bought it.

So what's the word? I'm going for a $100 proc, and the highest I'm really
willing to go is $110. Lower is better, but I'm trying to get the most
bang for the buck.

Also, can anybody suggest a cheap mobo for me? LAN, sound (2 or 6 ch), no
onboard video, no SATA, no RAID, parallel port, and at least 2 onboard
USB. Will I need a special motherboard for the 166DDR FSB wacky procs?



Should be able to get a cheap nForce2 board and a Barton 2500+, what RAM you
got?

There's really only 2 XPs at the moment, Tbred B and Barton, the only
difference being that the Barton has 512KB L2 cache, the Tbred B has 256KB.

Ben
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Old December 9th 03, 09:03 AM
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"Phil, Squid-in-Training" wrote in message
...
Hey group. I'm wondering what the difference between the different XPs

are.
I know that there are 133 and 166 versions of each, but it appears that

big
gains are attained with the 2700 and 2800 (at 333ddr). I'm upgrading my


Also, another thing... are there Athlon XPs 2500s that run at 333FSB?
2600s? Is there a big enough performance boost to warrant it?

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Old December 9th 03, 09:31 AM
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Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote:
"Phil, Squid-in-Training" wrote in message
...
Hey group. I'm wondering what the difference between the different XPs
are. I know that there are 133 and 166 versions of each, but it appears
that big gains are attained with the 2700 and 2800 (at 333ddr). I'm
upgrading my


Also, another thing... are there Athlon XPs 2500s that run at 333FSB?
2600s? Is there a big enough performance boost to warrant it?


All Bartons run at either 166MHz (2500+, 2600+, 2800+, 3000+) or 200MHz FSB
(3000+, 3200+)

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Old December 9th 03, 04:48 PM
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 07:08:21 +0000, Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote:

Also, can anybody suggest a cheap mobo for me? LAN, sound (2 or 6 ch), no
onboard video, no SATA, no RAID, parallel port, and at least 2 onboard USB.
Will I need a special motherboard for the 166DDR FSB wacky procs?

K7S8XE+ (SIS748) $54 shipped at newegg. 200MHZ FSB SATA Raid,etc. Full
range of multiplier control up to 24x if you have an unlocked cpu. FSB
adjustable in 1MHz increments (a must).

You can also get an NF2 400 board for around the same price but without
the sata raid. Most of the cheaper ones don't have multiplier control.
SOme may not have FSB control, so check before you buy.

Either of these should work well with a 2500+ overclocked FSB.

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Old December 9th 03, 11:05 PM
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"Ben Pope" wrote in message
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Snipped:
All Bartons run at either 166MHz (2500+, 2600+, 2800+, 3000+) or 200MHz

FSB
(3000+, 3200+)

Ben


I thought the Barton 3000+ is a 166MHz fsb chip (333)!!!

MikeE


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Old December 10th 03, 12:58 AM
Phil, Squid-in-Training
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K7S8XE+ (SIS748) $54 shipped at newegg. 200MHZ FSB SATA Raid,etc. Full
range of multiplier control up to 24x if you have an unlocked cpu. FSB
adjustable in 1MHz increments (a must).


Thanks for the suggestion, but have many people here tried out ASRock? I
see that it's a spinoff from Asus, but is it worth it? I was thinking about
the Asus A7V8X-X... any opinions on that one? I'd rather go with the Asus
for a few less features and a bit more peace of mind.

I'm not too focused on overclocking; I used to do that but never saw
significant gains. Too much time spent not riding my bike

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Old December 10th 03, 01:18 AM
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"Phil, Squid-in-Training" wrote:

K7S8XE+ (SIS748) $54 shipped at newegg. 200MHZ FSB SATA Raid,etc. Full
range of multiplier control up to 24x if you have an unlocked cpu. FSB
adjustable in 1MHz increments (a must).


Thanks for the suggestion, but have many people here tried out ASRock? I
see that it's a spinoff from Asus, but is it worth it? I was thinking about
the Asus A7V8X-X... any opinions on that one? I'd rather go with the Asus
for a few less features and a bit more peace of mind.

I'm not too focused on overclocking; I used to do that but never saw
significant gains. Too much time spent not riding my bike

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Phil, Squid-in-Training


Epox 8RDA3G, Athlon XP2500+, 2 x 256 Kingston HyperX ddr400. $278 from newegg.
You can run the processor at 200 mhz fsb with no problems at all and the memory
in dual channel mode it makes for a quick system. The Epox mb is very stable and
has all the adjustments if you want them. Plus it's not too expensive for what
you get. I've got three all running the Barton 2500 processor at 3200+ with no
problems at all. It's 8 inches on snow on the ground so I don't get to ride my
bike. I'm no squid either (too fat, too old)!



Roger

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Old December 10th 03, 08:28 AM
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Epox 8RDA3G, Athlon XP2500+, 2 x 256 Kingston HyperX ddr400. $278 from
newegg.
You can run the processor at 200 mhz fsb with no problems at all and the

memory
in dual channel mode it makes for a quick system. The Epox mb is very

stable and
has all the adjustments if you want them. Plus it's not too expensive for

what
you get. I've got three all running the Barton 2500 processor at 3200+

with no
problems at all. It's 8 inches on snow on the ground so I don't get to

ride my
bike. I'm no squid either (too fat, too old)!


Are you using regular cooling or something else? That's pretty crazy
because I could never get my 1900 to go past a 2100 rating for very long.

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