Maxtor 200GB Harddrive -- clanking noise -- bad, bad, bad

OK, here's the deal. I have a Maxtor 200GB IDE drive. Came inside their
external USB2/Firewire housing.

Over the last few days, I've had it running non-stop, copying everything in
the world to it.

Then it died. Dead, dead, dead

When powered on, the PC recognizes it has a new USB2 device, but the drive
just clanks. Clanks, whirr, clank, whirr, clank, clank, whirr.

I pulled it from the enclosure and installed it internally. Same noise, and
the BIOS/OS (XP Pro) doesn't see it. So, I suspect -- dead drive, and XP is
just seeing the enclosure.

Makes, unfortunately, sense.

Now, since I have already voided the warranty by opening it up, and I don't
want to send it off for expensive recovery services, does anyone have any
suggestions? Thoughts on what it might be (other than dead).

I'm not averse to opening the drive itself up, if it will help. Nothing is
irreplaceable, but it would take significant effort to replace it.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Tom

"Tom Scales" wrote:
OK, here's the deal. I have a Maxtor 200GB IDE drive. Came inside their
external USB2/Firewire housing.

Over the last few days, I've had it running non-stop, copying everything in
the world to it.

Then it died. Dead, dead, dead


(Excuse me, Tom.) Hey!! Rod Speed!! Here's a guy with a USB2
*external hard drive*. Tell him how it's not supposed to die and how
it's more reliable than an internal HD in a removable tray. hee, hee

*TimDaniels*

Timothy Daniels wrote in
message ...
Tom Scales wrote

OK, here's the deal. I have a Maxtor 200GB IDE drive.
Came inside their external USB2/Firewire housing.

Over the last few days, I've had it running
non-stop, copying everything in the world to it.

Then it died. Dead, dead, dead

(Excuse me, Tom.) Hey!! Rod Speed!! Here's a guy with a USB2
*external hard drive*. Tell him how it's not supposed to die and how
it's more reliable than an internal HD in a removable tray. hee, hee

Thanks for the completely superfluous proof of what a
stupid little ****wit child you have always been, Timmy.

The same thing has happened with new internal drives too, ****wit.

"Rod Speed" gathered his wits and intoned for posterity:
****wit.


Is *that* all you have to say? What about the guy's
problem?

*TimDaniels*

Well, good to see Usenet is working as intended

Any actual thoughts on what I can do?

Tom
"Timothy Daniels" wrote in message
...
"Rod Speed" gathered his wits and intoned for posterity:
****wit.


Is *that* all you have to say? What about the guy's
problem?

*TimDaniels*

Some pathetic little ****** claiming to be
Timothy Daniels wrote in
message ...
just the puerile **** thats always pouring from its lard arse.

Previously Tom Scales wrote:
OK, here's the deal. I have a Maxtor 200GB IDE drive. Came inside their
external USB2/Firewire housing.

Over the last few days, I've had it running non-stop, copying everything in
the world to it.

Then it died. Dead, dead, dead

No backup? By now I have everythign important in two places and
most other stuff at least on RAID-5. (I had two of the deathstars....).

When powered on, the PC recognizes it has a new USB2 device, but the drive
just clanks. Clanks, whirr, clank, whirr, clank, clank, whirr.

I pulled it from the enclosure and installed it internally. Same noise, and
the BIOS/OS (XP Pro) doesn't see it. So, I suspect -- dead drive, and XP is
just seeing the enclosure.

Makes, unfortunately, sense.

Now, since I have already voided the warranty by opening it up, and I don't
want to send it off for expensive recovery services, does anyone have any
suggestions? Thoughts on what it might be (other than dead).

One type of warranty you might still have is the one on the drive itself.
You can check online on Maxtors website he

https://www.maxtor.com/en/support/service/rma/create/


I'm not averse to opening the drive itself up, if it will help. Nothing is
irreplaceable, but it would take significant effort to replace it.

No idea. Without the proper tools it is unlikely you can do anything.
Sometimes (seldomly) changing the oprating conditions significantly
helps for some minutes. In particular some people have had success
by putting their drives in the freezer for some hours (plastic bag,
don't deep-freeze!).

Arno
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"Tom Scales" wrote in message ...
OK, here's the deal. I have a Maxtor 200GB IDE drive. Came inside their
external USB2/Firewire housing.

Over the last few days, I've had it running non-stop, copying everything in
the world to it.

Then it died. Dead, dead, dead

When powered on, the PC recognizes it has a new USB2 device, but the drive
just clanks. Clanks, whirr, clank, whirr, clank, clank, whirr.

I pulled it from the enclosure and installed it internally. Same noise, and
the BIOS/OS (XP Pro) doesn't see it. So, I suspect -- dead drive, and XP is
just seeing the enclosure.

Makes, unfortunately, sense.

Now, since I have already voided the warranty by opening it up, and I don't
want to send it off for expensive recovery services, does anyone have any
suggestions? Thoughts on what it might be (other than dead).

You've proved pretty conclusively that it is
dead by trying the drive itself outside the case.

I'm not averse to opening the drive itself up, if it will help.

It wont. A logic card swap from an identical drive may
be worth trying but hasnt got much chance of working.

Nothing is irreplaceable, but it would
take significant effort to replace it.

Thanks in advance for any help.

No, no backup because it wasn't worth backing up. It's not irreplaceable,
just annoying. Everything critical has multiple backups, including offsite.

Did pull the drive out of the case and put it onto a direct IDE chain.
didn't help.

Ah well, live and learn.
"Arno Wagner" wrote in message
...
Previously Tom Scales wrote:
OK, here's the deal. I have a Maxtor 200GB IDE drive. Came inside their
external USB2/Firewire housing.

Over the last few days, I've had it running non-stop, copying everything
in
the world to it.

Then it died. Dead, dead, dead

No backup? By now I have everythign important in two places and
most other stuff at least on RAID-5. (I had two of the deathstars....).

When powered on, the PC recognizes it has a new USB2 device, but the
drive
just clanks. Clanks, whirr, clank, whirr, clank, clank, whirr.

I pulled it from the enclosure and installed it internally. Same noise,
and
the BIOS/OS (XP Pro) doesn't see it. So, I suspect -- dead drive, and XP
is
just seeing the enclosure.

Makes, unfortunately, sense.

Now, since I have already voided the warranty by opening it up, and I
don't
want to send it off for expensive recovery services, does anyone have
any
suggestions? Thoughts on what it might be (other than dead).

One type of warranty you might still have is the one on the drive itself.
You can check online on Maxtors website he

https://www.maxtor.com/en/support/service/rma/create/


I'm not averse to opening the drive itself up, if it will help. Nothing
is
irreplaceable, but it would take significant effort to replace it.

No idea. Without the proper tools it is unlikely you can do anything.
Sometimes (seldomly) changing the oprating conditions significantly
helps for some minutes. In particular some people have had success
by putting their drives in the freezer for some hours (plastic bag,
don't deep-freeze!).

Arno
--
For email address: lastname AT tik DOT ee DOT ethz DOT ch
GnuPG: ID:1E25338F FP:0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 338F
"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws" - Tacitus

Previously Tom Scales wrote:
No, no backup because it wasn't worth backing up. It's not irreplaceable,
just annoying. Everything critical has multiple backups, including offsite.

Did pull the drive out of the case and put it onto a direct IDE chain.
didn't help.

O.K., I see you thought about backup. Unfortunately many people
do not.

My personal opinion is that investing work into the drive is likely
a waste of time. Fixing this high-tech precision things is allmost
impossible. I used to have the service manual for a 60MB MFM drive.
It was about 100 pages of technical information. Today the drives
are not less complicated, just more integrated (i.e. harder to fix).

Arno
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