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Chipmaker Elpida Admits Price Fixing
The Rambus horde must be doing backflips over this one.
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Chipmaker Elpida Admits Price Fixing
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:20:37 +0100, YKhan wrote:
The Rambus horde must be doing backflips over this one. http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/s...toryId=1151885 is this news? Intel is price fixing all the time -- I really have no idea what this means. And since I can't install linux on it, I'm gonna go back to surfing pr0n. the penguins are psychotic / just smile and wave |
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Chipmaker Elpida Admits Price Fixing
YKhan wrote: The Rambus horde must be doing backflips over this one. http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/s...toryId=1151885 Where's George now? Perhaps he should be getting out a napkin and dinnerware....crows on the menu : ) DK |
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Chipmaker Elpida Admits Price Fixing
hackbox.info wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:20:37 +0100, YKhan wrote: The Rambus horde must be doing backflips over this one. http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/s...toryId=1151885 is this news? Intel is price fixing all the time Let me guess, this was already debated and detailed in comp.arch at least six months ago? ;-) Yousuf Khan |
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Chipmaker Elpida Admits Price Fixing
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:56:55 +0100, Yousuf Khan wrote:
hackbox.info wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:20:37 +0100, YKhan wrote: The Rambus horde must be doing backflips over this one. http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/s...toryId=1151885 is this news? Intel is price fixing all the time Let me guess, this was already debated and detailed in comp.arch at least six months ago? ;-) I have no idea, I dont read comp.arch.* Every oligopoly/monopoly chip manufacturer is price fixing, like NVidia/Intel/ATI/AMD and many others. How else would you call selling Semprons, NForce SLI chips or Celerons? -- I really have no idea what this means. And since I can't install linux on it, I'm gonna go back to surfing pr0n. the penguins are psychotic / just smile and wave |
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Chipmaker Elpida Admits Price Fixing
hackbox.info wrote:
Every oligopoly/monopoly chip manufacturer is price fixing, like NVidia/Intel/ATI/AMD and many others. How else would you call selling Semprons, NForce SLI chips or Celerons? Price fixing implies an agreements between business competitors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_fixing Do you think ATI and NVIDIA discuss the price of GPUs together? -- Regards, Grumble |
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Chipmaker Elpida Admits Price Fixing
YKhan wrote:
The Rambus horde must be doing backflips over this one. I'm wondering why you included alt.invest.stocks.amd? |
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Chipmaker Elpida Admits Price Fixing
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:29:37 +0100, Grumble wrote:
hackbox.info wrote: Every oligopoly/monopoly chip manufacturer is price fixing, like NVidia/Intel/ATI/AMD and many others. How else would you call selling Semprons, NForce SLI chips or Celerons? Price fixing implies an agreements between business competitors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_fixing Do you think ATI and NVIDIA discuss the price of GPUs together? mm yes, there is no other explanation to absence of price war, top of the line ATI/NVidia cards are $649 by a coincidence? I suspect that they just agreed to sell low end cards ~$100, top models at $649, and to not undercut prices. -- I really have no idea what this means. And since I can't install linux on it, I'm gonna go back to surfing pr0n. the penguins are psychotic / just smile and wave |
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Chipmaker Elpida Admits Price Fixing
hackbox.info wrote in part:
mm yes, there is no other explanation to absence of price war, top of the line ATI/NVidia cards are $649 by a coincidence? I suspect that they just agreed to sell low end cards ~$100, top models at $649, and to not undercut prices. Hardly necessary. Common pricing is also the hallmark of an efficient and competitive market. They both see the same demand curves. Price wars are expensive for the participants, and not required for efficient markets or under US antitrust law. In fact, the wrong price war can lead to charges of predatory pricing. You probably also think that the oil companies are ripping you off, and ought to be selling gasoline at $1/USgal. Nevermind that internationally-traded crude oil is $1.55/gal and gasoline on the NY exchange is $1.70/gal, before transportation, state taxes, additives and retailing costs. -- Robert |
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Chipmaker Elpida Admits Price Fixing
hackbox.info wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:29:37 +0100, Grumble wrote: hackbox.info wrote: Every oligopoly/monopoly chip manufacturer is price fixing, like NVidia/Intel/ATI/AMD and many others. How else would you call selling Semprons, NForce SLI chips or Celerons? Price fixing implies an agreements between business competitors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_fixing Do you think ATI and NVIDIA discuss the price of GPUs together? mm yes, there is no other explanation to absence of price war, top of the line ATI/NVidia cards are $649 by a coincidence? I suspect that they just agreed to sell low end cards ~$100, top models at $649, and to not undercut prices. First off, there is no such thing as a "top of the line NVIDIA cards" since NVIDIA only sells the GPU and a reference design. e.g. Newegg.com sells several 7800GTX-based 256MB graphics cards from MSI, eVGA, Albatron, XFX, ASUS, BIOSTAR, and BFG, with prices ranging from $450 to $510. As far as the low-end is concerned, one can find 6200TC-based graphics cards for $40-$50. It's hard to argue with somebody who gets all their facts wrong... -- Regards, Grumble |
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