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Anyone hear about the exFAT file system, the successor to FAT32?



 
 
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Old November 23rd 09, 08:30 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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Default Anyone hear about the exFAT file system, the successor to FAT32?

David Brown wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:
Capella wrote:

guys, stop criticizing exfat.


Take your orders and shove them where the sun dont shine.

.....
I might not have used the same language myself, but I agree with /all/
your points here, Rod.


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Old November 23rd 09, 11:10 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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Default Anyone hear about the exFAT file system, the successor to FAT32?

On Nov 23, 8:28*pm, Ed Light wrote:
wrote:
Just to upset everyone I would like to say that exFAT is not a bad
file system. *For many files it does not use the FAT and so is much
faster. *It seems to encourage writing in long sequences rather than
filling each hole in the FAT.


It is part of Vista and Windows 7
Michael


Michael,

I missed part of this thread.

Just one question: *Is exFAT as crash damage resistant as ntfs?
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I don't think it is as crash resistant NTFS. Also, I don't think it
supports compression

I have no plans, and see no reason to change my NTFS drives to exFAT.

I haven't check speed of exFAT vs FAT32 vs NTFS, but I might try so on
an external USB drive

Michael

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Old November 24th 09, 10:41 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
David Brown[_2_]
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Default Anyone hear about the exFAT file system, the successor to FAT32?

Ed Light wrote:
wrote:

Just to upset everyone I would like to say that exFAT is not a bad
file system. For many files it does not use the FAT and so is much
faster. It seems to encourage writing in long sequences rather than
filling each hole in the FAT.

It is part of Vista and Windows 7
Michael


Michael,

I missed part of this thread.

Just one question: Is exFAT as crash damage resistant as ntfs?


NTFS journals metadata changes, making it somewhat crash resistant (but
anyone who has ever run chkdsk on a an NTFS partition knows this
resistance is limited). exFAT should be a bit safer than FAT, but is
not journalled.

exFAT is in no way a replacement for NTFS. It is aimed to be a bit of
an improvement over FAT (higher limits and a free space bitmap to
improve allocation), while still being light enough (in terms of
processing power, and disk space overhead) for things like cameras.

If I were a cynic, I'd say the main reason for its existence is to try
to lock people into Vista / Windows 7 or force them to upgrade older
Windows systems. MS don't like that people use FAT on usb drives and
other memory devices without paying them - few manufacturers pay the
licenses even though they are low cost, and their patents are tenuous at
best and will soon expire. Worst of all, non-MS systems can work
happily with FAT. exFAT gives MS a new chance - it is poorly specified
and documented so that these evil open-source commies can't implement
it, and the license agreements are secret so that they can give cheap
deals to boost exFAT's market penetration, then charge more once
manufacturers and users are locked in. There are certainly some patents
involved, and you can be sure that more will magically appear if anyone
else implements exFAT.
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Old November 24th 09, 10:46 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
David Brown[_2_]
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Default Anyone hear about the exFAT file system, the successor to FAT32?

Ed Light wrote:
David Brown wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:
Capella wrote:

guys, stop criticizing exfat.

Take your orders and shove them where the sun dont shine.

....
I might not have used the same language myself, but I agree with /all/
your points here, Rod.


Lots of people have roddy filtered out. You might consider it. It's so
friendly most of the time, without seeing his filth.


I've considered it, but Rod does have useful things do say - he has a
fair amount of knowledge and experience, and people do get helpful
advice from him. The problem comes if he is contradicted - as long as
his posts are correct, they are useful. So I currently have my rodbot
filter on manual.
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Old November 24th 09, 09:30 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
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Default Anyone hear about the exFAT file system, the successor to FAT32?

Ed Light wrote:
I missed part of this thread.

Just one question: Is exFAT as crash damage resistant as ntfs?


I originally posted this thread:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yzdqgvj

Basically, I saw an article about the new exFAT file system on
Microsoft's site. I thought that maybe Microsoft was giving it away for
free, since they were trying to make flash memory manufacturers and
others adopt it. But later it turned out that Microsoft is charging
money for it, so people are now not so keen on it anymore, including
myself. :-)

Yousuf Khan
 




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