Upgraded to AMD XP processor, now windows slower!

Hi,
I have an Abit Kt7a mobo and just upgraded my 1.33 GHz processor to a
1800XP (happily running at 2GHz). The strang thing is that in Windows
(2000 Pro) when I ran the UT2k3 benchmark the FPS dropped by 5,
instead of going up because I now have a faster proccessor.
Currently windows sees it as an unknown proccessor (but maybe because
my mobo don't officially support it, but the abit newsgroup ppl say it
shoud be ok).
Do you think I need to re-install windows, or is something strange
going on.
Also, I would run tests in Linux, but I can't remember my old results,
so can't compare. (It says 3984 bogomips if that helps.)

thanks

dbd

dbd wrote:
Hi,
I have an Abit Kt7a mobo and just upgraded my 1.33 GHz processor to a
1800XP (happily running at 2GHz). The strang thing is that in Windows
(2000 Pro) when I ran the UT2k3 benchmark the FPS dropped by 5,
instead of going up because I now have a faster proccessor.
Currently windows sees it as an unknown proccessor (but maybe because
my mobo don't officially support it, but the abit newsgroup ppl say it
shoud be ok).
Do you think I need to re-install windows, or is something strange
going on.
Also, I would run tests in Linux, but I can't remember my old results,
so can't compare. (It says 3984 bogomips if that helps.)

thanks

dbd

What video card are you using? It may be the card was running as fast
as possible with the other CPU and a faster one won't necessarily give
you more FPS.

I also run a 1800+ @ 2Ghz on a KT7-Raid with Win2K Pro and everything runs
faster on the system regardless if the BIOS says unknown processor type!
Perhaps something has changed or has degraded on the OS itself!

"dbd" wrote in message
om...
Hi,
I have an Abit Kt7a mobo and just upgraded my 1.33 GHz processor to a
1800XP (happily running at 2GHz). The strang thing is that in Windows
(2000 Pro) when I ran the UT2k3 benchmark the FPS dropped by 5,
instead of going up because I now have a faster proccessor.
Currently windows sees it as an unknown proccessor (but maybe because
my mobo don't officially support it, but the abit newsgroup ppl say it
shoud be ok).
Do you think I need to re-install windows, or is something strange
going on.
Also, I would run tests in Linux, but I can't remember my old results,
so can't compare. (It says 3984 bogomips if that helps.)

thanks

dbd

"IC" wrote in message et...
dbd wrote:
Hi,
I have an Abit Kt7a mobo and just upgraded my 1.33 GHz processor to a
1800XP (happily running at 2GHz). The strang thing is that in Windows
(2000 Pro) when I ran the UT2k3 benchmark the FPS dropped by 5,
instead of going up because I now have a faster proccessor.
Currently windows sees it as an unknown proccessor (but maybe because
my mobo don't officially support it, but the abit newsgroup ppl say it
shoud be ok).
Do you think I need to re-install windows, or is something strange
going on.
Also, I would run tests in Linux, but I can't remember my old results,
so can't compare. (It says 3984 bogomips if that helps.)

thanks

dbd

What video card are you using? It may be the card was running as fast
as possible with the other CPU and a faster one won't necessarily give
you more FPS.

An Nivida GeForce 4 Ti4200 128MB, but the fps went from 35 down to 30,
and I
expect at least 45-50 with this new processor.
Also, windows says it is an unknow processor (not just the bios saying
that) when I right click on my computer. Is that normal?

dbd wrote:
"IC" wrote in message
et...
dbd wrote:
Hi,
I have an Abit Kt7a mobo and just upgraded my 1.33 GHz processor to
a 1800XP (happily running at 2GHz). The strang thing is that in
Windows (2000 Pro) when I ran the UT2k3 benchmark the FPS dropped
by 5, instead of going up because I now have a faster proccessor.
Currently windows sees it as an unknown proccessor (but maybe
because my mobo don't officially support it, but the abit newsgroup
ppl say it shoud be ok).
Do you think I need to re-install windows, or is something strange
going on.
Also, I would run tests in Linux, but I can't remember my old
results, so can't compare. (It says 3984 bogomips if that helps.)

thanks

dbd

What video card are you using? It may be the card was running as
fast as possible with the other CPU and a faster one won't
necessarily give you more FPS.

An Nivida GeForce 4 Ti4200 128MB, but the fps went from 35 down to 30,
and I
expect at least 45-50 with this new processor.
Also, windows says it is an unknow processor (not just the bios saying
that) when I right click on my computer. Is that normal?

That's normal. Since the BIOS doesn't have the exact model stored, it
says "unkown" CPU. It's not important. All that's important is that
the CPU is running at the speed you want.

Now, to the video card. The TI 4200 is an "older" card on the same
scale as the ATI R8500 and they are DX8 cards; not DX9 capable. I'm not
surprised there's little difference with a faster CPU.
Why the 5 FPS difference? Got me. Maybe try re-installing the drivers
(or updating them) and/or reinstall Wondows. It's not hardware related
(except for the limitation of the video card).

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:16:17 -0800, dbd wrote:

"IC" wrote in message
et...
dbd wrote:
Hi,
I have an Abit Kt7a mobo and just upgraded my 1.33 GHz processor to a
1800XP (happily running at 2GHz). The strang thing is that in Windows
(2000 Pro) when I ran the UT2k3 benchmark the FPS dropped by 5,
instead of going up because I now have a faster proccessor. Currently
windows sees it as an unknown proccessor (but maybe because my mobo
don't officially support it, but the abit newsgroup ppl say it shoud
be ok). Do you think I need to re-install windows, or is something
strange going on. Also, I would run tests in Linux, but I can't
remember my old results, so can't compare. (It says 3984 bogomips if
that helps.)

What video card are you using? It may be the card was running as fast
as possible with the other CPU and a faster one won't necessarily give
you more FPS.

An Nivida GeForce 4 Ti4200 128MB, but the fps went from 35 down to 30,
and I expect at least 45-50 with this new processor. Also, windows says
it is an unknow processor (not just the bios saying that) when I right
click on my computer. Is that normal?

I'm not a windows person, but I'm pretty sure you have to let windows know
about the cpu change. You went from a cpu that doesn't support SSE to one
that does. You might be able to do a repair install, like with WinXP, or
maybe with 2000 you do it some other way. Check system properties or
reinstall.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html

Did the bios reset itself, or require you to reset it, when you
switched cpus? If so is it possible that one of the bios settings has
changed?

Forrest

Motherboard Help By HAL web site:
http://home.comcast.net/~hal-9000/


On 9 Dec 2003 09:55:34 -0800, (dbd) wrote:

Hi,
I have an Abit Kt7a mobo and just upgraded my 1.33 GHz processor to a
1800XP (happily running at 2GHz). The strang thing is that in Windows
(2000 Pro) when I ran the UT2k3 benchmark the FPS dropped by 5,
instead of going up because I now have a faster proccessor.
Currently windows sees it as an unknown proccessor (but maybe because
my mobo don't officially support it, but the abit newsgroup ppl say it
shoud be ok).
Do you think I need to re-install windows, or is something strange
going on.
Also, I would run tests in Linux, but I can't remember my old results,
so can't compare. (It says 3984 bogomips if that helps.)

thanks

dbd

Wes Newell wrote in message t...
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:16:17 -0800, dbd wrote:

"IC" wrote in message
et...
dbd wrote:
Hi,
I have an Abit Kt7a mobo and just upgraded my 1.33 GHz processor to a
1800XP (happily running at 2GHz). The strang thing is that in Windows
(2000 Pro) when I ran the UT2k3 benchmark the FPS dropped by 5,
instead of going up because I now have a faster proccessor. Currently
windows sees it as an unknown proccessor (but maybe because my mobo
don't officially support it, but the abit newsgroup ppl say it shoud
be ok). Do you think I need to re-install windows, or is something
strange going on. Also, I would run tests in Linux, but I can't
remember my old results, so can't compare. (It says 3984 bogomips if
that helps.)

What video card are you using? It may be the card was running as fast
as possible with the other CPU and a faster one won't necessarily give
you more FPS.

An Nivida GeForce 4 Ti4200 128MB, but the fps went from 35 down to 30,
and I expect at least 45-50 with this new processor. Also, windows says
it is an unknow processor (not just the bios saying that) when I right
click on my computer. Is that normal?

I'm not a windows person, but I'm pretty sure you have to let windows know
about the cpu change. You went from a cpu that doesn't support SSE to one
that does. You might be able to do a repair install, like with WinXP, or
maybe with 2000 you do it some other way. Check system properties or
reinstall.

Reinstalled, same problem.

"IC" wrote in message et...
dbd wrote:
"IC" wrote in message
et...
dbd wrote:
Hi,
I have an Abit Kt7a mobo and just upgraded my 1.33 GHz processor to
a 1800XP (happily running at 2GHz). The strang thing is that in
Windows (2000 Pro) when I ran the UT2k3 benchmark the FPS dropped
by 5, instead of going up because I now have a faster proccessor.
Currently windows sees it as an unknown proccessor (but maybe
because my mobo don't officially support it, but the abit newsgroup
ppl say it shoud be ok).
Do you think I need to re-install windows, or is something strange
going on.
Also, I would run tests in Linux, but I can't remember my old
results, so can't compare. (It says 3984 bogomips if that helps.)

thanks

dbd

What video card are you using? It may be the card was running as
fast as possible with the other CPU and a faster one won't
necessarily give you more FPS.

An Nivida GeForce 4 Ti4200 128MB, but the fps went from 35 down to 30,
and I
expect at least 45-50 with this new processor.
Also, windows says it is an unknow processor (not just the bios saying
that) when I right click on my computer. Is that normal?

That's normal. Since the BIOS doesn't have the exact model stored, it
says "unkown" CPU. It's not important. All that's important is that
the CPU is running at the speed you want.
What about windows saying unknown?
Also, direct X says unknown, 3dnow, sse, ~1.8GHz (I've nocked it back
down to default clock speed).

Now, to the video card. The TI 4200 is an "older" card on the same
scale as the ATI R8500 and they are DX8 cards; not DX9 capable. I'm not
surprised there's little difference with a faster CPU.
Why the 5 FPS difference? Got me. Maybe try re-installing the drivers
(or updating them) and/or reinstall Wondows. It's not hardware related
(except for the limitation of the video card).

Yeah, but UT2k3 is a directX 8 game, so having a directX 8 card
(admittedly one of the slower ones) shouldn't bottle neck it that
much, and a faster CPU should not slow it down.

Wes Newell wrote in message t...
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:16:17 -0800, dbd wrote:

"IC" wrote in message
et...
dbd wrote:
Hi,
I have an Abit Kt7a mobo and just upgraded my 1.33 GHz processor to a
1800XP (happily running at 2GHz). The strang thing is that in Windows
(2000 Pro) when I ran the UT2k3 benchmark the FPS dropped by 5,
instead of going up because I now have a faster proccessor. Currently
windows sees it as an unknown proccessor (but maybe because my mobo
don't officially support it, but the abit newsgroup ppl say it shoud
be ok). Do you think I need to re-install windows, or is something
strange going on. Also, I would run tests in Linux, but I can't
remember my old results, so can't compare. (It says 3984 bogomips if
that helps.)

What video card are you using? It may be the card was running as fast
as possible with the other CPU and a faster one won't necessarily give
you more FPS.

An Nivida GeForce 4 Ti4200 128MB, but the fps went from 35 down to 30,
and I expect at least 45-50 with this new processor. Also, windows says
it is an unknow processor (not just the bios saying that) when I right
click on my computer. Is that normal?

I'm not a windows person, but I'm pretty sure you have to let windows know
about the cpu change. You went from a cpu that doesn't support SSE to one
that does. You might be able to do a repair install, like with WinXP, or
maybe with 2000 you do it some other way. Check system properties or
reinstall.

Sorry to post again (stupid 8 hour google groups delay) but what bios
should I be running. I have a Kt7a 1.2 mobo, but will the 1.3 bios
work (with proper XP processor support)?