A computer components & hardware forum. HardwareBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » HardwareBanter forum » System Manufacturers & Vendors » Compaq Computers
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Presario 1800 reformat/update?



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old January 6th 04, 10:16 AM
Whelan
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different

workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a

Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800.

They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each

others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons"

that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on

your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able

to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines

are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make

sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop.

(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002.

However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried

furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell

message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall

Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need,

so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance

Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan












  #12  
Old January 6th 04, 07:11 PM
tc
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

No, none of those are worth installing.
To access your router, go to start,run and type in its ip address like
http://192.168.1.1. The numbers will be the same as your computers ip
addresses except the last one will be 1. You may need a password; check the
manual.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add

Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different

workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a

Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario

1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each

others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the

workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of

the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons"

that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on

your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able

to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other

machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to

make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop.

(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network

for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried

furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell

message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and

reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was

it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I

need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan














  #13  
Old January 7th 04, 12:04 AM
Thagor
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a
check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the
Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly.


"Whelan" wrote in message
...
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add

Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different

workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a

Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario

1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each

others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the

workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of

the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons"

that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on

your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able

to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other

machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to

make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop.

(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network

for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried

furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell

message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and

reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was

it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I

need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan














---

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004


  #14  
Old January 7th 04, 12:55 AM
Whelan
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its
Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol.
The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ.

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the
list, but when I click on it I get:
"\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you
have access permissions. The network path was not found. "

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass
for 20 seconds, then:
"SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you
have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not
currently available."

Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name
several times, but no result.
Nan

"Thagor" wrote in message
y.com...
Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a
check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of

the
Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly.


"Whelan" wrote in message
...
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's

in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called

Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I

saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add

Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2

computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of

the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different
workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a

Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario

1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each

others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the

workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of

the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons"

that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer

on
your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be

able
to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other

machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to

make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800

laptop.
(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network

for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer

2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried
furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell
message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and

reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP?

Was
it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I

need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any

chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan














---

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004




  #15  
Old January 7th 04, 01:10 AM
Whelan
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Thanks for the router access method, Terry.
I got there and see several choices and options there.
And my son just pointed out that there's a tollfree support phone # on the
Belkin box. I'll pursue these before reinstalling WinXP.
(I'm sorry ... I just don't remember having to do any of this when I got the
NetGear router in 2001.)
Nan
"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
No, none of those are worth installing.
To access your router, go to start,run and type in its ip address like
http://192.168.1.1. The numbers will be the same as your computers ip
addresses except the last one will be 1. You may need a password; check

the
manual.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's

in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called

Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I

saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add

Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2

computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of

the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different
workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a

Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario

1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each

others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the

workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of

the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons"

that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer

on
your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be

able
to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other

machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to

make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800

laptop.
(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network

for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer

2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried
furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell
message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and

reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP?

Was
it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I

need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any

chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan
















  #16  
Old January 7th 04, 04:20 AM
tc
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

This makes me think the problem is something to do with Simple File Sharing.
As I can't remember where that leads, I am providing a link with more info.
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_filesharing/index.htm
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too.

Its
Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol.
The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ.

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on

the
list, but when I click on it I get:
"\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if

you
have access permissions. The network path was not found. "

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the

hourglass
for 20 seconds, then:
"SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if

you
have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not
currently available."

Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name
several times, but no result.
Nan

"Thagor" wrote in message
y.com...
Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put

a
check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of

the
Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly.


"Whelan" wrote in message
...
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe

it's
in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks"

or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called

Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I

saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add

Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2

computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of

the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different
workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a
Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario

1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each
others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the

workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and

IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP

address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits

of
the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks

add-ons"
that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer

on
your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be

able
to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other

machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to

make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800

laptop.
(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home

network
for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer

2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried
furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the

Dell
message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and

reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP?

Was
it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I

need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any

chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan














---

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004






  #17  
Old January 7th 04, 04:21 AM
tc
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too.

Its
Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol.
The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ.

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on

the
list, but when I click on it I get:
"\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if

you
have access permissions. The network path was not found. "

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the

hourglass
for 20 seconds, then:
"SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if

you
have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not
currently available."

Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name
several times, but no result.
Nan

"Thagor" wrote in message
y.com...
Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put

a
check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of

the
Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly.


"Whelan" wrote in message
...
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe

it's
in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks"

or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called

Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I

saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add

Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2

computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of

the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different
workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a
Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario

1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each
others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the

workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and

IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP

address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits

of
the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks

add-ons"
that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer

on
your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be

able
to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other

machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to

make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800

laptop.
(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home

network
for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer

2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried
furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the

Dell
message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and

reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP?

Was
it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I

need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any

chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan














---

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004






  #18  
Old January 7th 04, 04:49 AM
Whelan
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But
it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name.

I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to
NTFS file system.
I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a
problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share
anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition.
Nan
Back to those articles.

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too.

Its
Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol.
The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ.

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on

the
list, but when I click on it I get:
"\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if

you
have access permissions. The network path was not found. "

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the

hourglass
for 20 seconds, then:
"SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if

you
have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not
currently available."

Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name
several times, but no result.
Nan

"Thagor" wrote in message
y.com...
Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and

put
a
check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME

of
the
Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly.


"Whelan" wrote in message
...
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe

it's
in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks"

or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called

Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol.

(I
saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add
Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2

computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list

of
the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to

try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3

different
workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop,

a
Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the

Presario
1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see

each
others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the
workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name

and
IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP

address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2

digits
of
the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks

add-ons"
that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other

computer
on
your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should

be
able
to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other
machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check

to
make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800

laptop.
(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home

network
for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer

2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have

tried
furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the

Dell
message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and
reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with

XP?
Was
it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what

I
need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any

chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan














---

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004








  #19  
Old January 7th 04, 05:15 AM
Trai' La Trash
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

You do know NTFS can read Fat32 but Fat32 can't see NTFS right?

"just checking the obvious that's all"

Dave
"Whelan" wrote in message
...
SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But
it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name.

I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to
NTFS file system.
I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be

a
problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share
anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition.
Nan
Back to those articles.

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked

too.
Its
Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and

Protocol.
The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ.

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears

on
the
list, but when I click on it I get:
"\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out

if
you
have access permissions. The network path was not found. "

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the

hourglass
for 20 seconds, then:
"SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out

if
you
have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not
currently available."

Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name
several times, but no result.
Nan

"Thagor" wrote in message
y.com...
Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and

put
a
check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME

of
the
Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly.


"Whelan" wrote in message
...
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe

it's
in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft

Networks"
or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called
Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol.

(I
saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you

add
Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6

Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS

Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2
computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a

list
of
the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to

try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3

different
workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500

desktop,
a
Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the

Presario
1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see

each
others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the
workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name

and
IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP

address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2

digits
of
the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks

add-ons"
that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other

computer
on
your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should

be
able
to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the

other
machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be?

Check
to
make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800
laptop.
(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home

network
for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it

summer
2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have

tried
furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the

Dell
message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and
reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with

XP?
Was
it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding

what
I
need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001...

Any
chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan














---

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004










  #20  
Old January 7th 04, 05:30 AM
Michael Geary
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Trai' La Trash wrote:
You do know NTFS can read Fat32 but Fat32 can't see NTFS right?


It's not entirely clear what you mean by that, but if it's what I'm guessing
you mean, it's not true. When you connect to a share across a network, it
doesn't matter whether the computer you're using could recognize the
filesystem that share resides on. For example, Windows 95 and 98 system
don't support NTFS, but they can connect to an XP system and read and write
NTFS files on that XP system.

-Mike


 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dimensions of Presario 1800? Whelan Compaq Computers 0 December 7th 03 09:21 PM
Compaq Presario 5446 into Presario 5440 Case Grocus Compaq Computers 0 September 4th 03 02:41 PM
Presario 524 Maxfax software Mike Calkins Compaq Computers 1 August 12th 03 12:59 AM
Problems with Presario 700 (711AU) SFR Compaq Computers 1 July 8th 03 10:34 AM
Presario 1250 monitor in Presario 1200? Jaban Compaq Computers 0 July 5th 03 12:10 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:49 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2022 HardwareBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.