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Network Cable Question
My main pc is a Dell (Windows XP) and it's hooked directly my Linksys wireless router/firewall. My second computer, six year old Compaq running Windows Me 128 ram, is hooked up wirelessly to the router. Ever since I hooked the Compaq wirelessly to the router the computer has had trouble keeping hooked up to the wireless signal. I'm sick and tired of messing with my second computer. I want it hooked up to the internet and I want to keep hooked up to the net. So, I'm thinking about taking out the wireless card and instead running a cable from my router to the second pc. Here is my question: My main PC and router is in the corner of the living room. My second PC is in another room. What I want to do is run a cable outside, run it around the house, then run inside the room to the second PC, and then hook up the Compaq to my router. So, what kind of cable do I need for this long connection? A network cable? I want to run this cable outside the house. Can a network cable withstand cold/rain/snowing/freezing weather? Do they make network cables long enough to reach around the house or will I have to buy three or four cables and hook them together? Will I need some device to boost the signal from the router to the second PC? How should I proceed? Thanks! |
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There are two ways to run cable between rooms, snake it around the baseboards
and doorways or run it through the walls. Depending on where the rooms are, "through the wall" wiring does not go directly from room to room. In our house, all the Ethernet cables start in rooms on the second floor, run UP to the unfinished attic, across the attic to a central channel used to pass wiring up and down, then down to the basement, across the basement ceiling and up to my office where the router is. Each room has an Ethernet tap, and computers in each room use a short piece (say 6') of patch cable to connect to the Ethernet tap. The Ethernet taps in my office all connect to the router with patch cable, so called because it is often used in a computer room's patch panel. If you want to run the wires the cheap and not too pretty way, you can certainly get pre-cut Category 5 (or 5e or 6) Ethernet cable in lengths up to 100 feet. Typical pre-cut lengths are 3', 6', 10', 25', 50', 100'. You do not need anything to boost the signal as long as the cable is less than a couple of hundred feet long. But why are you losing wireless connections? Several possibilities: Other equipment (microwaves, potable phones, cell phones, etc.) interfereing in the crowded 2.4GHz frequency range used by a lot of devices. Incompatible devices, router and wifi card. Windows ME which absolutely sucks. It is the worst Windows release ever. Large areas of metal blocking the transmission of the wireless signal. You can also get a sort of wireless repeater unit, depending on the brand and vintage of router. I used one with some Linksys gear some months ago to provide reliable wireless between house and office over a detached garage. There are also wireless antennae for both cards and routers, and they can often amplify the signal well enough... Ben Myers On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:41:50 GMT, "Von Fourche" wrote: My main pc is a Dell (Windows XP) and it's hooked directly my Linksys wireless router/firewall. My second computer, six year old Compaq running Windows Me 128 ram, is hooked up wirelessly to the router. Ever since I hooked the Compaq wirelessly to the router the computer has had trouble keeping hooked up to the wireless signal. I'm sick and tired of messing with my second computer. I want it hooked up to the internet and I want to keep hooked up to the net. So, I'm thinking about taking out the wireless card and instead running a cable from my router to the second pc. Here is my question: My main PC and router is in the corner of the living room. My second PC is in another room. What I want to do is run a cable outside, run it around the house, then run inside the room to the second PC, and then hook up the Compaq to my router. So, what kind of cable do I need for this long connection? A network cable? I want to run this cable outside the house. Can a network cable withstand cold/rain/snowing/freezing weather? Do they make network cables long enough to reach around the house or will I have to buy three or four cables and hook them together? Will I need some device to boost the signal from the router to the second PC? How should I proceed? Thanks! |
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if you are unable to identify the source of interference with your wireless
network that cuases the client to drop its connection, which is often something like a steel beam in the ceiling or stone/brick wall/chimeny and wiring is as complex as you describe than i highly recomend that you consider what is called 'powerline networking'. in each room you simple plug a gizmo into a regular power outlet that then connects to your equipment. so one in your living room that connects to your router, and another in the 'other' room that connects to your pc. often these are sold in pairs with one gizmo that is the hard wired type and the other gizmo being wireless... that might work too, but having two hard wired types are the simpliest thing to configure and eliminate the wireless headaches that exist in certain homes. these things are amazingly simple to install/configure, fast, and not too expensive... but they are not understood by any store salesperson that i have ever met. good luck. netgear's offering... (and yes it will hapilly work with your linksys router) http://tinyurl.com/jk543 i think a pair of xe102's for $100 delivered is all your need (you can spend more for newer/faster technology but it probably would be wasted given the age of the client machine) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833122063 "Von Fourche" wrote in message link.net... My main pc is a Dell (Windows XP) and it's hooked directly my Linksys wireless router/firewall. My second computer, six year old Compaq running Windows Me 128 ram, is hooked up wirelessly to the router. Ever since I hooked the Compaq wirelessly to the router the computer has had trouble keeping hooked up to the wireless signal. I'm sick and tired of messing with my second computer. I want it hooked up to the internet and I want to keep hooked up to the net. So, I'm thinking about taking out the wireless card and instead running a cable from my router to the second pc. Here is my question: My main PC and router is in the corner of the living room. My second PC is in another room. What I want to do is run a cable outside, run it around the house, then run inside the room to the second PC, and then hook up the Compaq to my router. So, what kind of cable do I need for this long connection? A network cable? I want to run this cable outside the house. Can a network cable withstand cold/rain/snowing/freezing weather? Do they make network cables long enough to reach around the house or will I have to buy three or four cables and hook them together? Will I need some device to boost the signal from the router to the second PC? How should I proceed? Thanks! |
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ps. the provided software is only necessary if you want to encrypt the data
that is transmitted over your home electrical lines... theoretically someone outside of your home could eavesdrop on the network traffic that you put into the power lines. but it also depends on the quality of your house main circuit breaker, distance (it falls off after some distance), if you think anyone will ever bother to listen for it, and if you care... "Christopher Muto" wrote in message news:bY7Hg.850$Bu2.655@trndny02... if you are unable to identify the source of interference with your wireless network that cuases the client to drop its connection, which is often something like a steel beam in the ceiling or stone/brick wall/chimeny and wiring is as complex as you describe than i highly recomend that you consider what is called 'powerline networking'. in each room you simple plug a gizmo into a regular power outlet that then connects to your equipment. so one in your living room that connects to your router, and another in the 'other' room that connects to your pc. often these are sold in pairs with one gizmo that is the hard wired type and the other gizmo being wireless... that might work too, but having two hard wired types are the simpliest thing to configure and eliminate the wireless headaches that exist in certain homes. these things are amazingly simple to install/configure, fast, and not too expensive... but they are not understood by any store salesperson that i have ever met. good luck. netgear's offering... (and yes it will hapilly work with your linksys router) http://tinyurl.com/jk543 i think a pair of xe102's for $100 delivered is all your need (you can spend more for newer/faster technology but it probably would be wasted given the age of the client machine) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833122063 "Von Fourche" wrote in message link.net... My main pc is a Dell (Windows XP) and it's hooked directly my Linksys wireless router/firewall. My second computer, six year old Compaq running Windows Me 128 ram, is hooked up wirelessly to the router. Ever since I hooked the Compaq wirelessly to the router the computer has had trouble keeping hooked up to the wireless signal. I'm sick and tired of messing with my second computer. I want it hooked up to the internet and I want to keep hooked up to the net. So, I'm thinking about taking out the wireless card and instead running a cable from my router to the second pc. Here is my question: My main PC and router is in the corner of the living room. My second PC is in another room. What I want to do is run a cable outside, run it around the house, then run inside the room to the second PC, and then hook up the Compaq to my router. So, what kind of cable do I need for this long connection? A network cable? I want to run this cable outside the house. Can a network cable withstand cold/rain/snowing/freezing weather? Do they make network cables long enough to reach around the house or will I have to buy three or four cables and hook them together? Will I need some device to boost the signal from the router to the second PC? How should I proceed? Thanks! |
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"Von Fourche" wrote in message link.net... My main pc is a Dell (Windows XP) and it's hooked directly my Linksys wireless router/firewall. My second computer, six year old Compaq running Windows Me 128 ram, is hooked up wirelessly to the router. snip Are we sure this isn't WinMe acting normally (especially if the wireless adapter on this Compaq machine happens to be USB) ? |
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ME is in my list of suspects. ME is ALWAYS in my list of usual suspects along
with Kaiser Soze and Mr. Kobiyashi... Ben Myers On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:20:48 -0500, "S.Lewis" wrote: "Von Fourche" wrote in message hlink.net... My main pc is a Dell (Windows XP) and it's hooked directly my Linksys wireless router/firewall. My second computer, six year old Compaq running Windows Me 128 ram, is hooked up wirelessly to the router. snip Are we sure this isn't WinMe acting normally (especially if the wireless adapter on this Compaq machine happens to be USB) ? |
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"S.Lewis" wrote in message ... "Von Fourche" wrote in message link.net... My main pc is a Dell (Windows XP) and it's hooked directly my Linksys wireless router/firewall. My second computer, six year old Compaq running Windows Me 128 ram, is hooked up wirelessly to the router. snip Are we sure this isn't WinMe acting normally (especially if the wireless adapter on this Compaq machine happens to be USB) ? I'm using a wireless card in a pci slot. I think I should add ram and upgrade to XP. Would XP run and be stable with 500 ram and 850mhz processor? Heck, sometimes I think I should trash this computer and buy a cheap, used Dell pc for three or four hundred dollars. I don't need a powerful computer for my second computer. I mostly serf the net and transfer songs from my main pc to the second pc. The Compaq came with great speakers. I guess I use it mostly to play music. The Compaq monitor still works fine. I would only need the tower. |
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Von Fourche wrote:
So, what kind of cable do I need for this long connection? Cat 5 network cable - comes in reels of 305metres. The maximum length of a single cable (plug to plug) is 100metres. I want to run this cable outside the house. Can a network cable withstand cold/rain/snowing/freezing weather? The cable on it's own will be waterproof, but it will suffer UV degradation on the parts outside the house. Run the external parts of the cable through a UV protected conduit of some sort. Do they make network cables long enough to reach around the house or will I have to buy three or four cables and hook them together? As long as the total distance is less than 100metres, you can run one cable. It's unlikely that you'll find a ready-made cable of 100m, so you'll probably have to fit the ends to it yourself (works out expensive if you're never going to do it again - you need special tools and testing kit, about £200-worth). Probably best to call a local network engineer to install the cable. Will I need some device to boost the signal from the router to the second PC? The 100m maximum length is for unboosted cable. If you want to run cable over longer distances, you should put any old bog-standard network switch in the middle. How should I proceed? Forget all the above, and dump the machine running Windows Me. Buy an XP machine, and all your wireless problems will disappear! Regards, Pete. |
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"Nicholas Andrade" wrote in message
m... Christopher Muto wrote: ps. the provided software is only necessary if you want to encrypt the data that is transmitted over your home electrical lines... theoretically someone outside of your home could eavesdrop on the network traffic that you put into the power lines. but it also depends on the quality of your house main circuit breaker, distance (it falls off after some distance), if you think anyone will ever bother to listen for it, and if you care... Honestly, I'd say you're much more likely to have an eavesdropper on a WiFi connection than on a powerline one. Although someone spying on powerline ethernet connection would be much harder to spot (and it can easily be done from a house a good distance away on the same grid). that is my thinking, accept for the distance part, which is unclear to me. these devices don't work in large homes that have multiple electrical panels (but there is a way to bridge the panels so they do) and so i wonder how much and how far information is leaked outside of the house for others to see. |
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"Von Fourche" wrote in message k.net... "S.Lewis" wrote in message ... "Von Fourche" wrote in message link.net... My main pc is a Dell (Windows XP) and it's hooked directly my Linksys wireless router/firewall. My second computer, six year old Compaq running Windows Me 128 ram, is hooked up wirelessly to the router. snip Are we sure this isn't WinMe acting normally (especially if the wireless adapter on this Compaq machine happens to be USB) ? I'm using a wireless card in a pci slot. I think I should add ram and upgrade to XP. Would XP run and be stable with 500 ram and 850mhz processor? Heck, sometimes I think I should trash this computer and buy a cheap, used Dell pc for three or four hundred dollars. I don't need a powerful computer for my second computer. I mostly serf the net and transfer songs from my main pc to the second pc. The Compaq came with great speakers. I guess I use it mostly to play music. The Compaq monitor still works fine. I would only need the tower. That machine would run XP acceptably with 512mb of RAM for your uses. Additionally, I think you'd see improved connectivity using WinXP versus WinMe. WinMe does very little well other than to be unpredictable. |
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