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  #31  
Old April 28th 08, 05:22 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Eric Gisin
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Default USB external HDD convert to SATA possible?

"Squeeze" wrote in message
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Arno Wagner wrote in

SCSI happens to be a multi-master bus, where every device can be
master, if so inclined.


Right, such a converter is obviously *infinitively* more complex.

In modern words, SCSI is Peer-to-Peer,


So is USB.


Bull****, FolkNutz. It's master host to slave devices.

while USB needs one fixed, dedicated master,


Nonsense.

Bull**** again, FolkNutz.

has a hierachical structure


As does SCSI.

and nothing happens without the single, fixed master.


Neither with SCSI, your blathering about being peer-to-peer not withstanding.


  #32  
Old April 28th 08, 08:12 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
2345
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Default USB external HDD convert to SATA possible?

Arno Wagner wrote:
Previously 2345 wrote:
Arno Wagner wrote:
Previously Squeeze wrote:
Arno Wagner wrote in
Previously Yousuf Khan wrote:
Dave Seven wrote:
I bought an HD PVR and they use a SATA port to connect an
external HDD instead of USB for extra storage space. I have 5
external USB HDDs and would rather use one of those than having
to buy a new external SATA HDD. I looked on NCIX for such a
converter and can't find one. Is there such a converter?

No need to buy an entire external HDD system, just buy a new
enclosure with an eSATA connector already included on it. And
then you can transfer the hard drive inside one of your USB-only
enclosures into the new enclosure.

However, there is one solution I've seen. It seems to be
something that'll convert SATA into USB, but I'm not sure if it
can convert a USB into a SATA. Your best bet is to get a new
enclosure with the eSATA already built in.

usb to sata usb hub
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives...h_usb_hub.html

Yousuf Khan

Unlikely. SATA to USB is easy and oten needed.

USB to SATA is very hard and rarely needed.

No, really?

http://www.addonics.com/products/io/aau2esa.asp

This device is SATA to USB, not the other way round. Read
the discussion.

You are clueless as allways, rod.


You cant even work out who you're talking to.


Its ****nert, stupid.


What, you mean you are not the same person?


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.

Look at the headers, stupid.

Maybe stopping to lie about your identity would then be a good idea ...


Dont have any option when fools like you play stupid childish games with killfiles, ****wit.


  #33  
Old April 28th 08, 09:10 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
bbbl67
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Default USB external HDD convert to SATA possible?

On Apr 28, 3:49 am, Dave Seven wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:
Whether that works or not depends on whether the existing external
USB HDDs have sata drives in them or not. It wont work if they have
PATA drives in them and most of the older ones will have PATA drives.


Yea, they are all PATA so nfg. Guess I will have to buy a new eSATA
external HDD.


PATA IDE To SATA Adapter Converter For HDD DVD SA20K - eBay (item
250240658317 end time Apr-28-08 15:48:00 PDT)
http://cgi.ebay.com/PATA-IDE-To-SATA...QQcmdZViewItem

Yousuf Khan
  #34  
Old April 28th 08, 09:15 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
bbbl67
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Default USB external HDD convert to SATA possible?

On Apr 28, 8:24 am, "Squeeze" wrote:
Yea, they are all PATA so nfg. Guess I will have to buy a new eSATA external HDD.

Yep.


Clueless, as always:http://www.xpcgear.com/rocketmate1100.html


You might want to reconsider the clueless wording. The device you
showed, is only for SATA hard drives, not PATA. PATA drives would
require a SATA converter.

Yousuf Khan
  #35  
Old April 28th 08, 10:14 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Squeeze
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Default USB external HDD convert to SATA possible?

bbbl67 wrote in
On Apr 28, 3:49 am, Dave Seven wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:
Whether that works or not depends on whether the existing external
USB HDDs have sata drives in them or not. It wont work if they have
PATA drives in them and most of the older ones will have PATA drives.


Yea, they are all PATA so nfg. Guess I will have to buy a new eSATA
external HDD.


PATA IDE To SATA Adapter Converter For HDD DVD SA20K - eBay (item
250240658317 end time Apr-28-08 15:48:00 PDT)

http://cgi.ebay.com/PATA-IDE-To-SATA...QQcmdZViewItem

Once an idiot, always an idiot.


Yousuf Khan


  #36  
Old April 28th 08, 10:35 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Squeeze
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Default USB external HDD convert to SATA possible?

Arno Wagner wrote in
Previously Dave Seven wrote:
Arno Wagner wrote:


SATA to IDE is simple, because of the same command-set,
bust structure and bus arbitration.


Are there external HDD cases that convert an IDE HDD to a SATA
connection on the external case? I could just buy one of those instead.
I'm trying to avoid having to buy a new external SATA HDD.


There are. Not that many though.


He only needs one, babblebot.
I think, somehow the industrie can manage that.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...&btnG =Search

Just look with any well stocked computer parts supplier.


Yeah, why bother with the internet and search engines.

Btw, nice to know that you still read my posts, babblebot.
Too bad you can't steal from them without anyone immediately able to tell.


Arno

  #37  
Old April 28th 08, 10:40 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Squeeze
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Default USB external HDD convert to SATA possible?

Eric Gisin wrote in news:eNadna0LfK75Z4jVnZ2dnUVZ_vmlnZ2d@uniservecomm unications
"Squeeze" wrote in message ...
Arno Wagner wrote in

SCSI happens to be a multi-master bus, where every device can be
master, if so inclined.


Right, such a converter is obviously *infinitively* more complex.

In modern words, SCSI is Peer-to-Peer,


So is USB.


Bull****, FolkNutz. It's master host to slave devices.


Pity about those OTG dual role devices, Gisin newbie.
http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm...e_number/1822/

Abstract: USB On-The-Go (OTG) allows two USB devices to talk to
each other without requiring the services of a personal computer.
Although OTG appears to add "peer to peer" connections to USB, it
does not. Instead, USB OTG retains the standard USB host/peripheral
model, where a single host talks to USB peripherals.
OTG introduces the dual-role device (DRD), capable of functioning as
either host or peripheral. Part of the magic of OTG is that a host and
peripheral can exchange roles if necessary.

Not exactly peer-to-peer, but close enough.

No computer host needed. Just a chippie the size of a postage stamp.
But thank you for giving me the opportunity to show that babblebot
off as a clueless idiot, once again.


while USB needs one fixed, dedicated master,


Nonsense.


Bull**** again, FolkNutz.


Yeah sure. Pity about that "fixed" and "dedicated", Gisin newbie.


has a hierachical structure


As does SCSI.

and nothing happens without the single, fixed master.



Pity about USB OTG.

  #38  
Old April 28th 08, 10:43 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Odie[_3_]
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Default USB external HDD convert to SATA possible?

Yousuf Khan C.S.I.P.H.S. Kook of the Year nominee wrote

On Apr 28, 8:24 am, "Squeeze" wrote:
Yea, they are all PATA so nfg.
Guess I will have to buy a new eSATA external HDD.


Yep.


Clueless, as always: http://www.xpcgear.com/rocketmate1100.html


You might want to reconsider the clueless wording. The device you
showed, is only for SATA hard drives, not PATA. PATA drives would
require a SATA converter.


ROTFLOL. A+ for effort to get the comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
*"KOOK of the Year"* award.


Yousuf Khan

  #39  
Old April 30th 08, 03:18 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Dave Seven
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Default USB external HDD convert to SATA possible?

Squeeze wrote:


Clueless, as always: http://www.xpcgear.com/rocketmate1100.html


Great, and thanks. Now to find one for sale in Canada.
  #40  
Old April 30th 08, 03:21 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Dave Seven
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Default USB external HDD convert to SATA possible?

Squeeze wrote:

He only needs one, babblebot.
I think, somehow the industrie can manage that.


I need a Canadian distributor.
 




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