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out of range - can't get in to safe mode
Windows 7 home premium 32 bit
Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550 I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message 'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9' 75.0K is flashing in red 59.9 is blue. This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen. It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date drivers. I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode) any ideas? |
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out of range - can't get in to safe mode
On 9/23/2011 11:42 PM, 123Jim wrote:
Windows 7 home premium 32 bit Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550 I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message 'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9' 75.0K is flashing in red 59.9 is blue. This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen. It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date drivers. I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode) any ideas? F8 for the boot menu, and start up in VGA mode. From there, you should be able to set a video mode that works with your monitor. |
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out of range - can't get in to safe mode
On 24/09/2011 07:41, Grinder wrote:
On 9/23/2011 11:42 PM, 123Jim wrote: Windows 7 home premium 32 bit Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550 I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message 'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9' 75.0K is flashing in red 59.9 is blue. This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen. It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date drivers. I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode) any ideas? F8 for the boot menu, and start up in VGA mode. From there, you should be able to set a video mode that works with your monitor. Unfortunately there does not appear to be a VGA mode in the boot options through F8 in windows 7 .. F8 options in Vista (and windows 7) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ding-safe-mode Repair your computer Safe mode Safe mode with networking Safe mode with command prompt Enable boot logging Enable low resolution video (640 × 480) Last Known Good Configuration (advanced) Directory services restore mode Debugging mode Disable automatic restart on system failure Disable Driver Signature Enforcement Start Windows normally |
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out of range - can't get in to safe mode
"123Jim" wrote in message ... On 24/09/2011 07:41, Grinder wrote: On 9/23/2011 11:42 PM, 123Jim wrote: Windows 7 home premium 32 bit Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550 I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message 'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9' 75.0K is flashing in red 59.9 is blue. This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen. It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date drivers. I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode) any ideas? F8 for the boot menu, and start up in VGA mode. From there, you should be able to set a video mode that works with your monitor. Unfortunately there does not appear to be a VGA mode in the boot options through F8 in windows 7 .. F8 options in Vista (and windows 7) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ding-safe-mode Repair your computer Safe mode Safe mode with networking Safe mode with command prompt Enable boot logging Enable low resolution video (640 × 480) Last Known Good Configuration (advanced) Directory services restore mode Debugging mode Disable automatic restart on system failure Disable Driver Signature Enforcement Start Windows normally VGA mode = 640 x 480. Try that option. |
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out of range - can't get in to safe mode
"Ian D" wrote in message ... "123Jim" wrote in message ... On 24/09/2011 07:41, Grinder wrote: On 9/23/2011 11:42 PM, 123Jim wrote: Windows 7 home premium 32 bit Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550 I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message 'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9' 75.0K is flashing in red 59.9 is blue. This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen. It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date drivers. I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode) any ideas? F8 for the boot menu, and start up in VGA mode. From there, you should be able to set a video mode that works with your monitor. Unfortunately there does not appear to be a VGA mode in the boot options through F8 in windows 7 .. F8 options in Vista (and windows 7) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ding-safe-mode Repair your computer Safe mode Safe mode with networking Safe mode with command prompt Enable boot logging Enable low resolution video (640 × 480) Last Known Good Configuration (advanced) Directory services restore mode Debugging mode Disable automatic restart on system failure Disable Driver Signature Enforcement Start Windows normally VGA mode = 640 x 480. Try that option. I forgot to mention that this is not safe mode. It's a fully operational mode with all drivers and services running, but at a much reduced resolution. Also, it will probably mess up your desktop it will attempt to fit all icons into the 640 x 480 window. |
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out of range - can't get in to safe mode
On 24/09/2011 20:52, Ian D wrote:
"123Jim" wrote in message ... On 24/09/2011 07:41, Grinder wrote: On 9/23/2011 11:42 PM, 123Jim wrote: Windows 7 home premium 32 bit Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550 I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message 'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9' 75.0K is flashing in red 59.9 is blue. This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen. It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date drivers. I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode) any ideas? F8 for the boot menu, and start up in VGA mode. From there, you should be able to set a video mode that works with your monitor. Unfortunately there does not appear to be a VGA mode in the boot options through F8 in windows 7 .. F8 options in Vista (and windows 7) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ding-safe-mode Repair your computer Safe mode Safe mode with networking Safe mode with command prompt Enable boot logging Enable low resolution video (640 × 480) Last Known Good Configuration (advanced) Directory services restore mode Debugging mode Disable automatic restart on system failure Disable Driver Signature Enforcement Start Windows normally VGA mode = 640 x 480. Try that option. Right, thanks, but that boots to normal mode not safe mode .... I've even removed the graphics card and tried using the graphics integrated into the motherboard .. but with the same results .. |
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out of range - can't get in to safe mode
On 09/24/2011 03:41 PM, 123Jim wrote:
On 24/09/2011 20:52, Ian D wrote: "123Jim" wrote in message ... On 24/09/2011 07:41, Grinder wrote: On 9/23/2011 11:42 PM, 123Jim wrote: Windows 7 home premium 32 bit Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550 I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message 'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9' 75.0K is flashing in red 59.9 is blue. This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen. It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date drivers. I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode) any ideas? F8 for the boot menu, and start up in VGA mode. From there, you should be able to set a video mode that works with your monitor. Unfortunately there does not appear to be a VGA mode in the boot options through F8 in windows 7 .. F8 options in Vista (and windows 7) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ding-safe-mode Repair your computer Safe mode Safe mode with networking Safe mode with command prompt Enable boot logging Enable low resolution video (640 × 480) Last Known Good Configuration (advanced) Directory services restore mode Debugging mode Disable automatic restart on system failure Disable Driver Signature Enforcement Start Windows normally VGA mode = 640 x 480. Try that option. Right, thanks, but that boots to normal mode not safe mode .... I've even removed the graphics card and tried using the graphics integrated into the motherboard .. but with the same results .. Why beat a dead horse just connect your large screen monitor that you know works with your video resolution |
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On 24/09/2011 22:31, philo wrote:
On 09/24/2011 03:41 PM, 123Jim wrote: On 24/09/2011 20:52, Ian D wrote: "123Jim" wrote in message ... On 24/09/2011 07:41, Grinder wrote: On 9/23/2011 11:42 PM, 123Jim wrote: Windows 7 home premium 32 bit Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550 I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message 'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9' 75.0K is flashing in red 59.9 is blue. This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen. It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date drivers. I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode) any ideas? F8 for the boot menu, and start up in VGA mode. From there, you should be able to set a video mode that works with your monitor. Unfortunately there does not appear to be a VGA mode in the boot options through F8 in windows 7 .. F8 options in Vista (and windows 7) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ding-safe-mode Repair your computer Safe mode Safe mode with networking Safe mode with command prompt Enable boot logging Enable low resolution video (640 × 480) Last Known Good Configuration (advanced) Directory services restore mode Debugging mode Disable automatic restart on system failure Disable Driver Signature Enforcement Start Windows normally VGA mode = 640 x 480. Try that option. Right, thanks, but that boots to normal mode not safe mode .... I've even removed the graphics card and tried using the graphics integrated into the motherboard .. but with the same results .. Why beat a dead horse just connect your large screen monitor that you know works with your video resolution Sorry I missed out the crucial info that I don't have access here to a large screen monitor .. I only took away the system box from the owner in order to carry out some repairs, but now I want safe mode I seem to be scuppered .. |
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out of range - can't get in to safe mode
123Jim wrote:
On 24/09/2011 22:31, philo wrote: On 09/24/2011 03:41 PM, 123Jim wrote: On 24/09/2011 20:52, Ian D wrote: "123Jim" wrote in message ... On 24/09/2011 07:41, Grinder wrote: On 9/23/2011 11:42 PM, 123Jim wrote: Windows 7 home premium 32 bit Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550 I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message 'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9' 75.0K is flashing in red 59.9 is blue. This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen. It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date drivers. I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode) any ideas? F8 for the boot menu, and start up in VGA mode. From there, you should be able to set a video mode that works with your monitor. Unfortunately there does not appear to be a VGA mode in the boot options through F8 in windows 7 .. F8 options in Vista (and windows 7) http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ding-safe-mode Repair your computer Safe mode Safe mode with networking Safe mode with command prompt Enable boot logging Enable low resolution video (640 × 480) Last Known Good Configuration (advanced) Directory services restore mode Debugging mode Disable automatic restart on system failure Disable Driver Signature Enforcement Start Windows normally VGA mode = 640 x 480. Try that option. Right, thanks, but that boots to normal mode not safe mode .... I've even removed the graphics card and tried using the graphics integrated into the motherboard .. but with the same results .. Why beat a dead horse just connect your large screen monitor that you know works with your video resolution Sorry I missed out the crucial info that I don't have access here to a large screen monitor .. I only took away the system box from the owner in order to carry out some repairs, but now I want safe mode I seem to be scuppered .. I can think of solutions - they just aren't good solutions. 1) Remote into box. In my experiments, this didn't work in Safe Mode. Maybe you can figure out a way to do that. My laptop told me to take a flying leap, when I tried to prepare an "invitation" while booted in Safe Mode. It said whatever service it needed, wasn't running. 2) Delete registry keys that set resolution. Since you've tested a different graphics interface and seen similar fail results, I don't hold much hope for this. (There is an example here, involving "BitsPerPel" and friends, but when I checked my laptop, there were a whole pile of those.) Perhaps you could do some off-line editing of the existing registry file in question, and make those changes ? Apparently, you can take a registry file to another machine and work on it. I've never succeeded in doing that. http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...-2d17f186a8d2/ Registry keys could also be mass-removed, by installing an empty set of registry files. These would be the files created when the system was first installed, and would not have any user preferences in them. But a side effect of using such a file, is it disables System Restore. In this example, they copy a set of registry files, out of a Restore Point folder manually. That would be the equivalent of using a Restore Point, only not restoring the entire machine state. Just using a registry set from a few days previous. This is for WinXP, and I don't know if they prepared similar instructions for Windows 7 or not. You would be doing "Part Two" and "Part Three", copy and rename some registry files, then move them to the working folder. In the process of doing this, you may discover the machine has no Restore Points in the first place. I discovered to my shock, the first time I looked, that the disk space assigned for Windows 7 System Restore was too small, and the single Restore Point directory was essentially empty and useless. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307545 And really, at this point, can we be sure the out-of-range is the result of previously recorded info, or a problem with reading EDID on the current monitor and doing something stupid with the information ? You could go to a lot of trouble to change the registry, only to find no difference in symptoms. You can override EDID, by using a little "EDID memory box" which can be set up to make a copy of EDID from some other, working monitor. That is useful for cases, where the display device has no EDID (like a wall projector). It won't help if the OS is quite insistent it won't pay attention to the EDID - I have a monitor here that doesn't "Plug and Play" worth a damn, and there's got to be something about the EDID contents it doesn't like. The EDID looks fine in Moninfo program. Programs like Powerstrip and Moninfo, make it possible to work on display problems, but again, I don't see a way given your restricted environment, of getting any value from these. Powerstrip is available for an evaluation period, which might be enough in some cases to get some work done on a system. http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/ps.shtm http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/moninfo.shtm There have been cases, where the EDID chip on the monitor is writable, and the EDID gets overwritten and needs some TLC to set it right again. That's a whole other topic. I'm just surprised there isn't a magic key combo to "force" the graphics system into using sensible settings that all monitors support. And 640x480 should do that. On my laptop, alt-F5 allows me to step through some multi-monitor configurations, but I don't know if any of those would suit the "force to 640" thing or not. And my desktop doesn't seem to support that. F5 does nothing on the desktop machine. Paul |
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out of range - can't get in to safe mode
On 9/24/2011 12:42 AM, 123Jim wrote:
Windows 7 home premium 32 bit Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550 I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message 'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9' 75.0K is flashing in red 59.9 is blue. This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen. It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date drivers. I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode) any ideas? If all else fails, use the MB manufacturer's approved procedure to clear CMOS |
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