Samsung P460 Laptop Ram

I ordered the recommended G.Skill from NewEgg. Will report when it
arrives and how it goes.
Bill


As long as you didn't rely on the newegg Memory Finder tool.
I just checked for my T500 2242 and it listed the G.Skill
DIMM that did not work.
... along with 247 other 4 GB DIMMs.
Buyer beware.
John T.

I relied on your post in T500. So I am going to blame you if it they do not
work :-). My computer has Intel's Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset.
I am having a problem with my HDMI port working properly. The screen will
start flashing. I have tried different WDDM files and can not get it to
work reliably. The VGA port works fine. Did you have a problem with this?

Chips I Purchased: G.SKILL 4GB 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500)
Laptop Memory Model F3-8500CL7S-4GBSQ 2


No HDMI on old Lenovo - " Display Port " instead.

Last week, I did have a " no audio " problem when streaming
and using the display port -- HDMI cable - into my TV.
.. video was OK.
I just hooked up the little Altec-Lansing computer speakers to
the laptop and had ~ as good audio as the smart TV speakers.

ps: I am noticing minor performance improvement with the added
RAM ... just certain little delays are shorter than before.

John T.

Bill Bradshaw wrote:
wrote:
Experimenting with Windows 10 Pro 64bit.
I want to replace the two chips with 4GB chips.
Could use any suggestions what I might need that will work with
this computer.
I'm not a techie - like the other fine folks here - but I just
finished adding RAM to my Lenovo T500 - similar vintage to
your Samsung - P8400 2.26 but Win 8 Pro originally Vista.
See the recent thread in this newsgroup for my experience -
but to summarize -
- G.Skill F3-12800CL9S-4GB SQ series DDR3-1600
did not work - I believe this was high density ? 4 chips.
- G.Skill F3-8500CL7S-4GB SQ DDR3-1066
did work - I believe this is low density ? 8 chips.
I upgraded from 3 GB to 6 GB re-using the 2 GB DIMM.
I'm quite sure my max. is 2 x 4 = 8 GB.
Not really any significant performance improvement,
that I can see yet - but I'm not doing any intensive stuff.
The SSD that I installed a couple months ago was more
noticeable - start up and shut down significantly improved.
The first DIMM was $ 30. Canadian - luckily the store
let me exchange it for the $ 35. one.
The SSD was Amazon . ca ~ $ 65. free shipping.
Crucial MX500 250 Gig. Their software download worked
great to duplicate the old HD prior to the swap-out.
Good luck.
John T.
The drive I will use in the end is a SAMSUNG SSD EVO 860. Thiis is
the 32 bit drive I currently use.
It sounds like you purchased your memory local? Is G.Skill the
brand? Bill
G.Skill is the brand I have in the test machine (8x8GB DDR3).
They used Hynix chips on those. Yours are not likely
to be Hynix, because the 8500 DIMMs are a different
generation (like... stepping into a time machine).
No matter what the brand, always read customer reviews when
some are offered (this is because, when chip supplies run
out, they may need to find a second source of similar chip,
with disasterous consequences).
Based on my experience so far with G.Skill, I've had
no problems with them. For their enthusiast grade
stuff, G.Skill would be about the same as some
Corsair or OCZTechnology (when they still existed).
The machine I'm typing on has had OCZTechnology (2x1GB),
Kingston (Non-HyperX 4x2GB) and Corsair (4x2GB). I don't
think G.Skill made stuff for my older machine. And finding
that Corsair when I did, was about as unlikely as you
guys finding that 8500 sitting around...
Paul
I ordered the recommended G.Skill from NewEgg. Will report when it
arrives and how it goes.
Bill

As long as you didn't rely on the newegg Memory Finder tool.
I just checked for my T500 2242 and it listed the G.Skill
DIMM that did not work.
... along with 247 other 4 GB DIMMs.
Buyer beware.
John T.

I relied on your post in T500. So I am going to blame you if it they do not
work :-). My computer has Intel's Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset.
I am having a problem with my HDMI port working properly. The screen will
start flashing. I have tried different WDDM files and can not get it to
work reliably. The VGA port works fine. Did you have a problem with this?

Chips I Purchased: G.SKILL 4GB 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500)
Laptop Memory Model F3-8500CL7S-4GBSQ 2

Does your laptop have any BIOS file updates available ?

Generally, I don't do such updates, unless the
company providing the BIOS, has "release notes"
stating what was fixed or improved. A BIOS
update that just increases the pool of supported
CPUs is pretty useless, as an example of what some
releases are for.

I don't know if this is the right web page or not, but
this example doesn't have release notes and neither do the
files seem to (visibly) have anything I can see in a hex
editor. I'm not going to execute a thing like this,
being a fraidy cat and all. Phoenix PHLASH. 7ZIP didn't
unpack it when I tried.

https://www.samsung.com/us/support/o...roduct/np-p460

As the owner of a computing product, you're supposed to
collect trivia about the thing (general stability,
company practices). I didn't even know Samsung made
laptops (at least, not for markets on this side of the
pond). I wouldn't know whether the BIOS provided was
a troublemaker or not.

With the RAM, I would be trying combinations. 2+4 perhaps.
But the thing is, I think I already checked the address
map on this GM45 Northbridge, and it extends to 64GB, so
it should not be a mapping problem where the BIOS runs
into the end of the address space and doesn't truncate properly.
When that has happened in the past, the USB ports start
reporting "overcurrent", due to some hardware not being
mapped properly.

The other possibility, is that it doesn't handle memory
hoisting properly, and if that was the case and you
had a 64 bit OS, the "available RAM" in Task Manager
would show 3/3.25/3.5GB, instead of RAM getting to 4.0GB
or 5.0GB or 6.0GB etc, implying hoisting was working.

If the screen was going black every two seconds (both
screens, not just one), that would be VPU recovery on
the graphics driver. If the screen was flickering, I
don't know the reason for that, except perhaps a refresh
rate that's out of range or something.

Paul

Paul wrote:

I relied on your post in T500. So I am going to blame you if it
they do not work :-). My computer has Intel's Mobile Intel(R) 4
Series Express Chipset. I am having a problem with my HDMI port
working properly. The screen will start flashing. I have tried
different WDDM files and can not get it to work reliably. The VGA
port works fine. Did you have a problem with this? Chips I Purchased:
G.SKILL 4GB 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1066 (PC3
8500) Laptop Memory Model F3-8500CL7S-4GBSQ 2

Does your laptop have any BIOS file updates available ?

Generally, I don't do such updates, unless the
company providing the BIOS, has "release notes"
stating what was fixed or improved. A BIOS
update that just increases the pool of supported
CPUs is pretty useless, as an example of what some
releases are for.

I don't know if this is the right web page or not, but
this example doesn't have release notes and neither do the
files seem to (visibly) have anything I can see in a hex
editor. I'm not going to execute a thing like this,
being a fraidy cat and all. Phoenix PHLASH. 7ZIP didn't
unpack it when I tried.

https://www.samsung.com/us/support/o...roduct/np-p460

As the owner of a computing product, you're supposed to
collect trivia about the thing (general stability,
company practices). I didn't even know Samsung made
laptops (at least, not for markets on this side of the
pond). I wouldn't know whether the BIOS provided was
a troublemaker or not.

With the RAM, I would be trying combinations. 2+4 perhaps.
But the thing is, I think I already checked the address
map on this GM45 Northbridge, and it extends to 64GB, so
it should not be a mapping problem where the BIOS runs
into the end of the address space and doesn't truncate properly.
When that has happened in the past, the USB ports start
reporting "overcurrent", due to some hardware not being
mapped properly.

The other possibility, is that it doesn't handle memory
hoisting properly, and if that was the case and you
had a 64 bit OS, the "available RAM" in Task Manager
would show 3/3.25/3.5GB, instead of RAM getting to 4.0GB
or 5.0GB or 6.0GB etc, implying hoisting was working.

If the screen was going black every two seconds (both
screens, not just one), that would be VPU recovery on
the graphics driver. If the screen was flickering, I
don't know the reason for that, except perhaps a refresh
rate that's out of range or something.

Paul

Everything works fine under Windows 10 Pro x86 including the HDMI. It is
under x64 I have a problem. The VGA works fine. The HDMI flickers. I have
not been able to find a x64 driver for the 4 Series Express (WDDM). All I
have is a 32 bit driver. Not even at Intel's site has an x64 file for
Windows 10. Only WinXp (Even tried this).

I am still pounding away on x64 when I get time. Still waiting on the
memory.

Bill

Bill Bradshaw wrote:
Paul wrote:

Does your laptop have any BIOS file updates available ?

Generally, I don't do such updates, unless the
company providing the BIOS, has "release notes"
stating what was fixed or improved. A BIOS
update that just increases the pool of supported
CPUs is pretty useless, as an example of what some
releases are for.

I don't know if this is the right web page or not, but
this example doesn't have release notes and neither do the
files seem to (visibly) have anything I can see in a hex
editor. I'm not going to execute a thing like this,
being a fraidy cat and all. Phoenix PHLASH. 7ZIP didn't
unpack it when I tried.

https://www.samsung.com/us/support/o...roduct/np-p460

As the owner of a computing product, you're supposed to
collect trivia about the thing (general stability,
company practices). I didn't even know Samsung made
laptops (at least, not for markets on this side of the
pond). I wouldn't know whether the BIOS provided was
a troublemaker or not.

If the screen was going black every two seconds (both
screens, not just one), that would be VPU recovery on
the graphics driver. If the screen was flickering, I
don't know the reason for that, except perhaps a refresh
rate that's out of range or something.

Paul

Everything works fine under Windows 10 Pro x86 including the HDMI. It is
under x64 I have a problem. The VGA works fine. The HDMI
flickers. I have not been able to find a x64 driver for the 4 Series
Express (WDDM). All I have is a 32 bit driver. Not even at Intel's
site has an x64 file for Windows 10. Only WinXp (Even tried this).

I am still pounding away on x64 when I get time. Still waiting on the
memory.

Bill

I have over the years stored all of the Samsung update files on my computer.
I have kept the computer updated over the years including the BIOS.

Memory is here and installed and system shows 8 GBs. So that is taken care
of. Thanks for the help from both of you. I can use the monitor over the
VGA but then I do not have a port for a second monitor. I am going to keep
plugging away at the HDMI until I finally realize there is no hope.

Bill

Bill Bradshaw wrote:


I have over the years stored all of the Samsung update files on my computer.
I have kept the computer updated over the years including the BIOS.

Memory is here and installed and system shows 8 GBs. So that is taken care
of. Thanks for the help from both of you. I can use the monitor over the
VGA but then I do not have a port for a second monitor. I am going to keep
plugging away at the HDMI until I finally realize there is no hope.

Bill

At least the Northbridge didn't let you down then. Your RAM worked.

By the way, you're supposed to run a pass or two of memtest on
new RAM - downloads half way down the page. I use an older version
here, not the latest, and that's working on all machines. If you
don't test the RAM, on Windows you may discover "corrupted Registry"
after a while. You want to make sure the RAM is error free. A full pass
or two is sufficient.

http://www.memtest.org

*******

What I own in my computer room, is two VGA monitors. My newest
video card has one HDMI and three DisplayPort outputs, and no VGA
output. I use HDMI to VGA and DP to VGA adapters, if wishing to run both
monitors in the computer room, off the new video card.

This is the "year of the adapter", and if you need adapters,
it helps to stock a couple in your computer room, The HDMI to VGA
one is in permanent use, on the Test Machine with the new video
card. I had to select the HDMI port, because the video card "defaults"
to that port, and if you run the monitor off a DP to VGA adapter,
sometimes when the computer boots, the damn monitor is a black screen.
And the signal is coming out of the HDMI port in that case.

To "remain friends" with the computer, that's why I have to
stick with the stinkin HDMI port, because the video card
is in control... and not me :-/

Paul