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Fastest graphic card for Windows workstation use (2D, not gaming)
I work in Windows Vista and I want to build the fastest PC at any
price. I never use it for gaming nor for 3D things... What's the fastest graphic board on the market for this use? I see that common graphic board benchmarks on the web, like this: http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html, only measure the speed for 3D. Are there benchmarks for the 2D-Windows speed? |
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Fastest graphic card for Windows workstation use (2D, not gaming)
"Luca Villa" wrote in message ... I work in Windows Vista and I want to build the fastest PC at any price. I never use it for gaming nor for 3D things... What's the fastest graphic board on the market for this use? Since one presumes that you won't be building a Vista Basic system, a certain degree of 3D capability will be desirable for Aero. You don't need the high end DX10 3D gaming cards for this, but you do need something with 3D ability. Avoid the 64bit interface cards and get something in the $75 to $100 range from Nvidia or ATI vendors. I'd be looking at the X1300Pro 128bit and GeForce 7300GT 128bit series as the lower end candidates. Cheap and plenty fast enough for Aero. |
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Fastest graphic card for Windows workstation use (2D, not gaming)
* Luca Villa:
I work in Windows Vista and I want to build the fastest PC at any price. I never use it for gaming nor for 3D things... What's the fastest graphic board on the market for this use? Every gfx card (at least from ATI/AMD and Nvidia, be careful with the VIA/S3 ProSavage and SIS crap) of the last 8 years or so is more than fast enough for 2D. There simply is no difference in 2D performance any more. So what you want is a DX9-capable (means: Vista Aero capable) gfx card. Even the cheapest low end card will do. I see that common graphic board benchmarks on the web, like this: http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html, only measure the speed for 3D. Are there benchmarks for the 2D-Windows speed? No, simply because all gfx cards of the last 8+ years are more than fast enough for anything 2D. Benjamin |
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Fastest graphic card for Windows workstation use (2D, not gaming)
I think that the NVidia Quadro or ATI FireGL are those that can give
me the highest speed, more than the gaming cards. Are you completely sure that they cannot make a visible difference against cheap $50-$100 cards for general Windows use with tens of opened windows? |
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Fastest graphic card for Windows workstation use (2D, not gaming)
* Luca Villa:
I think that the NVidia Quadro or ATI FireGL are those that can give me the highest speed, more than the gaming cards. No, they won't. Both FireGL and Quadro FX are professional *3D* cards (the 2D equivalents are Quadro NVS and FireGL MV which are for 2D multi-monitor solutions) based on the exact same chipsets as the consumer cards (Geforce/Radeon). Are you completely sure that they cannot make a visible difference against cheap $50-$100 cards for general Windows use with tens of opened windows? Yes, I am. And yes, I do know the gfx cards including the FireGL and Quadro quite good as we have a ****load of workstations with these cards. Of course you're free to go out and spend 2500EUR for a Quadro FX 500 with 1.5GB memory. But for 2D it won't bring you one yota of performance benefit over a say 30EUR Geforce FX 5200 or any other low end card. Benjamin |
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Fastest graphic card for Windows workstation use (2D, not gaming)
* Luca Villa:
I think that the NVidia Quadro or ATI FireGL are those that can give me the highest speed, more than the gaming cards. No, they won't. Both FireGL and Quadro FX are professional *3D* cards (the 2D equivalents are Quadro NVS and FireGL MV which are for 2D multi-monitor solutions) based on the exact same chipsets as the consumer cards (Geforce/Radeon). Are you completely sure that they cannot make a visible difference against cheap $50-$100 cards for general Windows use with tens of opened windows? Yes, I am. And yes, I do know the gfx cards including the FireGL and Quadro quite good as we have a ****load of workstations with these cards. Of course you're free to go out and spend say 2500USD for a Quadro FX 5600 with 1.5GB memory. But for 2D it won't bring you one yota of performance benefit over say a 30EUR Geforce FX 5200 or any other low end card. The times when 2D performance was a challenge for computers are over for at least around a decade now. Even a 1999-vintage Geforce256 gets bored with everything 2D. Benjamin |
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Fastest graphic card for Windows workstation use (2D, not gaming)
| I think that the NVidia Quadro or ATI FireGL are those that can give
| me the highest speed, more than the gaming cards. | Are you completely sure that they cannot make a visible difference | against cheap $50-$100 cards for general Windows use with tens of | opened windows? _____ If there were meaningful differences in 2D performance, there would be 2D benchmark comparisons available. The only thing a more expensive card might offer is better sharpness IF you were using analog output to your monitor. And if that is the case, consider spending the extra money you seem to want to spend on purchasing a digital input flat screen monitor rather than on excess 3D power. The Vista Aero interface does require 3D performance (probably the 'Show Windows' function, for example), but most of all make sure good Vista 64 drivers are available NOW for the card you purchase. Phil Weldon "Luca Villa" wrote in message ... |I think that the NVidia Quadro or ATI FireGL are those that can give | me the highest speed, more than the gaming cards. | Are you completely sure that they cannot make a visible difference | against cheap $50-$100 cards for general Windows use with tens of | opened windows? |
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Fastest graphic card for Windows workstation use (2D, not gaming)
You just read the answer to your question on Tom's charts.
-- --DaveW "Luca Villa" wrote in message ... I work in Windows Vista and I want to build the fastest PC at any price. I never use it for gaming nor for 3D things... What's the fastest graphic board on the market for this use? I see that common graphic board benchmarks on the web, like this: http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html, only measure the speed for 3D. Are there benchmarks for the 2D-Windows speed? |
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Fastest graphic card for Windows workstation use (2D, not gaming)
Thank you all for the answers.
I made an 1 hour long research and found that he top-of-the-line graphic cards commercialized for 2D work according to NVidia and ATI would be these: - NVidia Quadro NVS 440 PCIe (~$400 on eBay) quad-head "high-performance 2D rendering engine" MPEG-2 and WMV9 decode acceleration source: http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_30901.html - ATI FireMV 2400 (~$400 on eBay) quad-head "ATI's FireMV(tm) multi-view 2D workstation acceleration cards are designed exclusively for the financial and corporate marketplaces." http://ati.amd.com/products/firemvseries/index.html Finally, I found a very interesting 2D benchmark comparison between these 2 cards and a $3699 priced Quadro FX 4500 X2 he http://www.computerpoweruser.com/edi...01%2F07c01.asp The Quadro FX 4500 X2 performed significantly better in all the 2D (and 3D) tests. Now I miss the final prove that I would not perceive this 2D speed difference when I'm working with tens of standard Windows applications/ windows. For example every time I unlock Windows I currently have to wait 10-15 seconds for all the windows and icons to be restored/ painted on the screen. My system has a Geforce 7300 card. I wonder if the graphic card can positively influence this speed. |
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Fastest graphic card for Windows workstation use (2D, not gaming)
You might take a look at those, which will do hardware decoding of 2D such
as HD movies... http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=17337 I believe there's not much point of getting fastest 3D card if you're not going to do 3D stuff on it. "Luca Villa" wrote in message ... I work in Windows Vista and I want to build the fastest PC at any price. I never use it for gaming nor for 3D things... What's the fastest graphic board on the market for this use? I see that common graphic board benchmarks on the web, like this: http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html, only measure the speed for 3D. Are there benchmarks for the 2D-Windows speed? |
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