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JAD wrote:
(bottom posting corrected) http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html -- Anton Smit: "Why is Bottom-posting better than Top-posting http://www.alt-html.org/index.html#usenet -- Brucie's alt.html General Information http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject/zen/zen-1.0_6.html -- zen and the art of the internet (usenet section) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html -- Jukka Korpela presents Tobias Brox's Bottom vs. top posting and quotation style on Usenet http://www.estreetjournal.com/cgi-lo...net/Etiquette/ -- Netiquette links http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/ -- "rules" for posting to usenet http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html -- Richard Kettlewell: Quoting Style http://www.html-faq.com/faq.php?clue=topposting -- alt.html FAQ reference on posting methods http://www.i-hate-computers.demon.co.uk/ -- "How not to look like an idiot", What do you mean "my reply is upside-down"? http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html -- Netmeister: "How do I quote correctly in Usenet" http://www.topfloor.com/pr/communities/ch3.htm -- TopFloor Publishing: Online communities - Participating effectively http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g.mccau...ks/uquote.html -- G.McCaughan: The advantages of Usenet's quoting conventions http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/quote.html -- FAQ of Proper Quoting http://www.windfalls.net/ukrm/postinghelp.html -- "Suggestions on how to post" http://www.xs4all.nl/~wijnands/nnq/nquote.html -- news.newusers.questions FAQ What are you comparing? Using arbitrary words like OLD NEW, doesn't cut it. AND YOU SAID A HARDDRIVE upgrade will make more of a performance kick than upgrading the CPU. He said more of an improvement in *system response*, not 'performance'. \ OK then lets talk what era's we are referring to. 1980's HD Vs 2002? Why would we be comparing this? No one was except you in trying to create a silly scenario with which to argue about. It's called a strawman. OLD HDs are usually connected to an OLD chipsets, so no matter the HD upgrade the performance will be gimped. Larger HD's (which are usually faster RPM wise) after being filled up will bog the file system and hence slow the system in some barely noticeable way. That's funny. First you say that 7200 RPM isn't faster than 5400 and now you say a large drive will bog things down. So your recommendation is to get a small, slow, 5400 RPM drive to keep things 'speedy'? The poster is simply giving you a personal account of what I was telling you all along. That the typical user tends to perceive 'speed' (or, as he put it, system response) in program load times that are, barring a deficiency somewhere else, primarily a result of hard drive performance. "chrisv" wrote in message ... "JAD" wrote: (top posting corrected) "chrisv" wrote: I think you're right. In my experience, upgrading an older machine with a modern HD makes a much more noticeable improvement in system response than a CPU upgrade does. you are absolutely out on 'cloud 9' Incorrect, oh clueless one. I wasn't going to respond to this but I'm in a foul mood............if you are saying that a 5400 rpm HD upgraded to a 7200rpm drive is more of a UPGRADE than replacing the CPU with a newer faster CPU, your a lot more clueless than I. Having reading difficulties, JAD? I did not compare "5400 RPM HD vs. 7200RPM HD", it was "old HD vs. modern HD". Also note that I said that a modern HD gives a more noticeable improvement in "system response", compared to a CPU upgrade. Note that "system response" does not mean more FPS in Quake, or whatever you personally might consider an "upgrade". It means how quickly common file-based operations (the things that usually make you wait) occur. It's quite unusual to be waiting on your CPU to crunch-through something, in normal computer usage... |
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bite me NG nazi
"David Maynard" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: (bottom posting corrected) http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html -- Anton Smit: "Why is Bottom-posting better than Top-posting http://www.alt-html.org/index.html#usenet -- Brucie's alt.html General Information http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject/zen/zen-1.0_6.html -- zen and the art of the internet (usenet section) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html -- Jukka Korpela presents Tobias Brox's Bottom vs. top posting and quotation style on Usenet http://www.estreetjournal.com/cgi-lo...net/Etiquette/ -- Netiquette links http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/ -- "rules" for posting to usenet http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html -- Richard Kettlewell: Quoting Style http://www.html-faq.com/faq.php?clue=topposting -- alt.html FAQ reference on posting methods http://www.i-hate-computers.demon.co.uk/ -- "How not to look like an idiot", What do you mean "my reply is upside-down"? http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html -- Netmeister: "How do I quote correctly in Usenet" http://www.topfloor.com/pr/communities/ch3.htm -- TopFloor Publishing: Online communities - Participating effectively http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g.mccau...ks/uquote.html -- G.McCaughan: The advantages of Usenet's quoting conventions http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/quote.html -- FAQ of Proper Quoting http://www.windfalls.net/ukrm/postinghelp.html -- "Suggestions on how to post" http://www.xs4all.nl/~wijnands/nnq/nquote.html -- news.newusers.questions FAQ What are you comparing? Using arbitrary words like OLD NEW, doesn't cut it. AND YOU SAID A HARDDRIVE upgrade will make more of a performance kick than upgrading the CPU. He said more of an improvement in *system response*, not 'performance'. \ OK then lets talk what era's we are referring to. 1980's HD Vs 2002? Why would we be comparing this? No one was except you in trying to create a silly scenario with which to argue about. It's called a strawman. OLD HDs are usually connected to an OLD chipsets, so no matter the HD upgrade the performance will be gimped. Larger HD's (which are usually faster RPM wise) after being filled up will bog the file system and hence slow the system in some barely noticeable way. That's funny. First you say that 7200 RPM isn't faster than 5400 and now you say a large drive will bog things down. So your recommendation is to get a small, slow, 5400 RPM drive to keep things 'speedy'? The poster is simply giving you a personal account of what I was telling you all along. That the typical user tends to perceive 'speed' (or, as he put it, system response) in program load times that are, barring a deficiency somewhere else, primarily a result of hard drive performance. "chrisv" wrote in message ... "JAD" wrote: (top posting corrected) "chrisv" wrote: I think you're right. In my experience, upgrading an older machine with a modern HD makes a much more noticeable improvement in system response than a CPU upgrade does. you are absolutely out on 'cloud 9' Incorrect, oh clueless one. I wasn't going to respond to this but I'm in a foul mood............if you are saying that a 5400 rpm HD upgraded to a 7200rpm drive is more of a UPGRADE than replacing the CPU with a newer faster CPU, your a lot more clueless than I. Having reading difficulties, JAD? I did not compare "5400 RPM HD vs. 7200RPM HD", it was "old HD vs. modern HD". Also note that I said that a modern HD gives a more noticeable improvement in "system response", compared to a CPU upgrade. Note that "system response" does not mean more FPS in Quake, or whatever you personally might consider an "upgrade". It means how quickly common file-based operations (the things that usually make you wait) occur. It's quite unusual to be waiting on your CPU to crunch-through something, in normal computer usage... |
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JAD wrote:
bite me NG nazi I was content to say nothing about it till you found it necessary to go around 'correcting' people with the "bottom posting corrected" jab. "David Maynard" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: (bottom posting corrected) http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html -- Anton Smit: "Why is Bottom-posting better than Top-posting http://www.alt-html.org/index.html#usenet -- Brucie's alt.html General Information http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject/zen/zen-1.0_6.html -- zen andthe art of the internet (usenet section) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html -- Jukka Korpel presents Tobias Brox's Bottom vs. top posting and quotation style on Usenet http://www.estreetjournal.com/cgi-lo...net/Etiquette/ -- Netiquette links http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/ -- "rules" for posting to usenet http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html -- Richard Kettlewell: Quoting Style http://www.html-faq.com/faq.php?clue=topposting -- alt.html FAQ reference on posting methods http://www.i-hate-computers.demon.co.uk/ -- "How not to look like an idiot", What do you mean "my reply is upside-down"? http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html -- Netmeister: "How do I quote correctly in Usenet" http://www.topfloor.com/pr/communities/ch3.htm -- TopFloorPublishing: Online communities - Participating effectively http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g.mccau...ks/uquote.html -- G.McCaughan: The advantages of Usenet's quoting conventions http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/quote.html -- FAQ of Proper Quoting http://www.windfalls.net/ukrm/postinghelp.html -- "Suggestions on how to post" http://www.xs4all.nl/~wijnands/nnq/nquote.html -- news.newusers.questions FAQ What are you comparing? Using arbitrary words like OLD NEW, doesn't cut it. AND YOU SAID A HARDDRIVE upgrade will make more of a performance kick than upgrading the CPU. He said more of an improvement in *system response*, not 'performance'. OK then lets talk what era's we are referring to. 1980's HD Vs 2002? Why would we be comparing this? No one was except you in trying to create a silly scenario with which to argue about. It's called a strawman. OLD HDs are usually connected to an OLD chipsets, so no matter the HD upgrade the performance will be gimped. Larger HD's (which are usually faster RPM wise) after being filled up will bog the file system and hence slow the system in some barely noticeable way. That's funny. First you say that 7200 RPM isn't faster than 5400 and now you say a large drive will bog things down. So your recommendation is to get a small, slow, 5400 RPM drive to keep things 'speedy'? The poster is simply giving you a personal account of what I was telling you all along. That the typical user tends to perceive 'speed' (or, as he put it, system response) in program load times that are, barring a deficiency somewhere else, primarily a result of hard drive performance. |
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you don't read well do you.....
...it was a retaliatory strike, not a 'first' as I said earlier, head back to the tackle box........ "David Maynard" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: bite me NG nazi I was content to say nothing about it till you found it necessary to go around 'correcting' people with the "bottom posting corrected" jab. "David Maynard" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: (bottom posting corrected) http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html -- Anton Smit: "Why is Bottom-posting better than Top-posting http://www.alt-html.org/index.html#usenet -- Brucie's alt.html General Information http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject/zen/zen-1.0_6.html -- zen andthe art of the internet (usenet section) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html -- Jukka Korpel presents Tobias Brox's Bottom vs. top posting and quotation style on Usenet http://www.estreetjournal.com/cgi-lo...mputers/Intern et/Etiquette/ -- Netiquette links http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/ -- "rules" for posting to usenet http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html -- Richard Kettlewell: Quoting Style http://www.html-faq.com/faq.php?clue=topposting -- alt.html FAQ reference on posting methods http://www.i-hate-computers.demon.co.uk/ -- "How not to look like an idiot", What do you mean "my reply is upside-down"? http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html -- Netmeister: "How do I quote correctly in Usenet" http://www.topfloor.com/pr/communities/ch3.htm -- TopFloorPublishing: Online communities - Participating effectively http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g.mccau...ks/uquote.html -- G.McCaughan: The advantages of Usenet's quoting conventions http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/quote.html -- FAQ of Proper Quoting http://www.windfalls.net/ukrm/postinghelp.html -- "Suggestions on how to post" http://www.xs4all.nl/~wijnands/nnq/nquote.html -- news.newusers.questions FAQ What are you comparing? Using arbitrary words like OLD NEW, doesn't cut it. AND YOU SAID A HARDDRIVE upgrade will make more of a performance kick than upgrading the CPU. He said more of an improvement in *system response*, not 'performance'. OK then lets talk what era's we are referring to. 1980's HD Vs 2002? Why would we be comparing this? No one was except you in trying to create a silly scenario with which to argue about. It's called a strawman. OLD HDs are usually connected to an OLD chipsets, so no matter the HD upgrade the performance will be gimped. Larger HD's (which are usually faster RPM wise) after being filled up will bog the file system and hence slow the system in some barely noticeable way. That's funny. First you say that 7200 RPM isn't faster than 5400 and now you say a large drive will bog things down. So your recommendation is to get a small, slow, 5400 RPM drive to keep things 'speedy'? The poster is simply giving you a personal account of what I was telling you all along. That the typical user tends to perceive 'speed' (or, as he put it, system response) in program load times that are, barring a deficiency somewhere else, primarily a result of hard drive performance. |
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Another posting nazi. Please everyone, top post for Davy.
There are no rules for usenet posting style. Get a ****ing life. "David Maynard" wrote in message ... http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html -- Anton Smit: "Why is Bottom-posting better than Top-posting http://www.alt-html.org/index.html#usenet -- Brucie's alt.html General Information http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject/zen/zen-1.0_6.html -- zen and the art of the internet (usenet section) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html -- Jukka Korpela presents Tobias Brox's Bottom vs. top posting and quotation style on Usenet http://www.estreetjournal.com/cgi-lo...net/Etiquette/ -- Netiquette links http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/ -- "rules" for posting to usenet http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html -- Richard Kettlewell: Quoting Style http://www.html-faq.com/faq.php?clue=topposting -- alt.html FAQ reference on posting methods http://www.i-hate-computers.demon.co.uk/ -- "How not to look like an idiot", What do you mean "my reply is upside-down"? http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html -- Netmeister: "How do I quote correctly in Usenet" http://www.topfloor.com/pr/communities/ch3.htm -- TopFloor Publishing: Online communities - Participating effectively http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g.mccau...ks/uquote.html -- G.McCaughan: The advantages of Usenet's quoting conventions http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/quote.html -- FAQ of Proper Quoting http://www.windfalls.net/ukrm/postinghelp.html -- "Suggestions on how to post" http://www.xs4all.nl/~wijnands/nnq/nquote.html -- news.newusers.questions FAQ |
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JAD wrote:
you don't read well do you..... ..it was a retaliatory strike, not a 'first' I didn't say it was a 'first'. The difference is he was right and you were wrong, as the links demonstrate. as I said earlier, head back to the tackle box........ I'm curious; what's the weather like on your planet? Because we don't get much other than earth news here. "David Maynard" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: bite me NG nazi I was content to say nothing about it till you found it necessary to go around 'correcting' people with the "bottom posting corrected" jab. "David Maynard" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: (bottom posting corrected) http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html -- Anton Smit: "Why is Bottom-posting better than Top-posting http://www.alt-html.org/index.html#usenet -- Brucie's alt.html General Information http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject/zen/zen-1.0_6.html -- zen andthe art of the internet (usenet section) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html -- Jukka Korpel presents Tobias Brox's Bottom vs. top posting and quotation style on Usenet http://www.estreetjournal.com/cgi-lo...mputers/Intern et/Etiquette/ -- Netiquette links http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/ -- "rules" for posting to usenet http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html -- Richard Kettlewell: Quoting Style http://www.html-faq.com/faq.php?clue=topposting -- alt.html FAQ reference on posting methods http://www.i-hate-computers.demon.co.uk/ -- "How not to look like an idiot", What do you mean "my reply is upside-down"? http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html -- Netmeister: "How do I quote correctly in Usenet" http://www.topfloor.com/pr/communities/ch3.htm -- TopFloorPublishing: Online communities - Participating effectively http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g.mccau...ks/uquote.html -- G.McCaughan: The advantages of Usenet's quoting conventions http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/quote.html -- FAQ of Proper Quoting http://www.windfalls.net/ukrm/postinghelp.html -- "Suggestions on how to post" http://www.xs4all.nl/~wijnands/nnq/nquote.html -- news.newusers.questions FAQ What are you comparing? Using arbitrary words like OLD NEW, doesn't cut it. AND YOU SAID A HARDDRIVE upgrade will make more of a performance kick than upgrading the CPU. He said more of an improvement in *system response*, not 'performance'. OK then lets talk what era's we are referring to. 1980's HD Vs 2002? Why would we be comparing this? No one was except you in trying to create a silly scenario with which to argue about. It's called a strawman. OLD HDs are usually connected to an OLD chipsets, so no matter the HD upgrade the performance will be gimped. Larger HD's (which are usually faster RPM wise) after being filled up will bog the file system and hence slow the system in some barely noticeable way. That's funny. First you say that 7200 RPM isn't faster than 5400 and now you say a large drive will bog things down. So your recommendation is to get a small, slow, 5400 RPM drive to keep things 'speedy'? The poster is simply giving you a personal account of what I was telling you all along. That the typical user tends to perceive 'speed' (or, as he put it, system response) in program load times that are, barring a deficiency somewhere else, primarily a result of hard drive performance. |
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Eric Gisin wrote:
Another posting nazi. Please everyone, top post for Davy. There are no rules for usenet posting style. Get a ****ing life. Got one, thank you. Why don't you try getting a clue. I posted a few to make it easier. "David Maynard" wrote in message ... http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html -- Anton Smit: "Why is Bottom-posting better than Top-posting http://www.alt-html.org/index.html#usenet -- Brucie's alt.html General Information http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject/zen/zen-1.0_6.html -- zen and the art of the internet (usenet section) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html -- Jukka Korpela presents Tobias Brox's Bottom vs. top posting and quotation style on Usenet http://www.estreetjournal.com/cgi-lo...net/Etiquette/ -- Netiquette links http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/ -- "rules" for posting to usenet http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html -- Richard Kettlewell: Quoting Style http://www.html-faq.com/faq.php?clue=topposting -- alt.html FAQ reference on posting methods http://www.i-hate-computers.demon.co.uk/ -- "How not to look like an idiot", What do you mean "my reply is upside-down"? http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html -- Netmeister: "How do I quote correctly in Usenet" http://www.topfloor.com/pr/communities/ch3.htm -- TopFloor Publishing: Online communities - Participating effectively http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g.mccau...ks/uquote.html -- G.McCaughan: The advantages of Usenet's quoting conventions http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/quote.html -- FAQ of Proper Quoting http://www.windfalls.net/ukrm/postinghelp.html -- "Suggestions on how to post" http://www.xs4all.nl/~wijnands/nnq/nquote.html -- news.newusers.questions FAQ |
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Boys, boys, behave yourselves.
David Maynard wrote: JAD wrote: you don't read well do you..... ..it was a retaliatory strike, not a 'first' I didn't say it was a 'first'. The difference is he was right and you were wrong, as the links demonstrate. as I said earlier, head back to the tackle box........ I'm curious; what's the weather like on your planet? Because we don't get much other than earth news here. "David Maynard" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: bite me NG nazi I was content to say nothing about it till you found it necessary to go around 'correcting' people with the "bottom posting corrected" jab. "David Maynard" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: (bottom posting corrected) http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html -- Anton Smit: "Why is Bottom-posting better than Top-posting http://www.alt-html.org/index.html#usenet -- Brucie's alt.html General Information http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject/zen/zen-1.0_6.html -- zen andthe art of the internet (usenet section) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html -- Jukka Korpel presents Tobias Brox's Bottom vs. top posting and quotation style on Usenet http://www.estreetjournal.com/cgi-lo...mputers/Intern et/Etiquette/ -- Netiquette links http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/ -- "rules" for posting to usenet http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html -- Richard Kettlewell: Quoting Style http://www.html-faq.com/faq.php?clue=topposting -- alt.html FAQ reference on posting methods http://www.i-hate-computers.demon.co.uk/ -- "How not to look like an idiot", What do you mean "my reply is upside-down"? http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html -- Netmeister: "How do I quote correctly in Usenet" http://www.topfloor.com/pr/communities/ch3.htm -- TopFloorPublishing: Online communities - Participating effectively http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g.mccau...ks/uquote.html -- G.McCaughan: The advantages of Usenet's quoting conventions http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/quote.html -- FAQ of Proper Quoting http://www.windfalls.net/ukrm/postinghelp.html -- "Suggestions on how to post" http://www.xs4all.nl/~wijnands/nnq/nquote.html -- news.newusers.questions FAQ What are you comparing? Using arbitrary words like OLD NEW, doesn't cut it. AND YOU SAID A HARDDRIVE upgrade will make more of a performance kick than upgrading the CPU. He said more of an improvement in *system response*, not 'performance'. OK then lets talk what era's we are referring to. 1980's HD Vs 2002? Why would we be comparing this? No one was except you in trying to create a silly scenario with which to argue about. It's called a strawman. OLD HDs are usually connected to an OLD chipsets, so no matter the HD upgrade the performance will be gimped. Larger HD's (which are usually faster RPM wise) after being filled up will bog the file system and hence slow the system in some barely noticeable way. That's funny. First you say that 7200 RPM isn't faster than 5400 and now you say a large drive will bog things down. So your recommendation is to get a small, slow, 5400 RPM drive to keep things 'speedy'? The poster is simply giving you a personal account of what I was telling you all along. That the typical user tends to perceive 'speed' (or, as he put it, system response) in program load times that are, barring a deficiency somewhere else, primarily a result of hard drive performance. Boys, boys, behave yourselves. -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:39:26 -0700, "Eric Gisin"
wrote: Another posting nazi. Please everyone, top post for Davy. There are no rules for usenet posting style. Get a ****ing life. Funny how it disturb you enough to stop and whine about it. |
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kony wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:39:26 -0700, "Eric Gisin" wrote: Another posting nazi. Please everyone, top post for Davy. There are no rules for usenet posting style. Get a ****ing life. Funny how it disturb you enough to stop and whine about it. Not to mention I'm a 'nazi' for merely posting links that discuss it. |
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