Shuttle SK43G

In message , S.Chang
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Kevin Seal wrote:

In message , S.Chang
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snip history of problem

Anyway, valuable lesson learned, never buy Special offers again.

Surely the other lesson learnt is to have a quick Google first. Then
you would have saved a lot of time and money!
Only if I know this particular model gives blue screen with 333FSB CPU
before I bought it...
I did searched for the reviews on Google before I bought it, but should
have searched for sk43g+"blue screen"

As I said in my followup to Bagpuss, I really meant Googling after the
fault first arose.
--
Kevin Seal (at work)
Fazer600 in banana
(kevin at the hyphen seal hyphen house dot freeserve dot co dot uk)

"S.Chang" wrote in message ...
Paul-B - the original and the best! wrote:
S.Chang posted:


S.Chang wrote:

JasonB wrote:


S.Chang wrote:


Hi All,


snip

This may be a shot in the dark, however you mention that the

system will reboot for no reason, sometimes in the middle of a
calculation in Mathematica.

I had this exact same problem with a Soltek QBIC system that I put
together, couldn't work out why it was rebooting intermittantly.

Eventually someone told me to check the Heatsink and make sure

that it was making contact with the CPU. I found that I'd
inadvertantly put the heatsink on the wrong way and that it was
sitting at an angle on the CPU hence the thermal protection kicked
in whenever the CPU reached 85c shutting the system down and
rebooting.


Actually, the CPU in the Shuttle is running at 40~45C, so it's not
so bad considering it's an AMD, and there's only one way you can
fit the heatsink into the SK43G but thanks for the advice.

Regards
S.Chang

Crap...got the replacement back from Aria, but still crashing..
Bought another pair of 512M Kingston, didn't help and veyr little
resource on Google, am I the only one having this problem? come
on...some body?

S.Chang


Have you tried a different graphics card? ISTR reading somewhere about
compat problems with some ATI cards.

Yes, I have changed everything in the Shuttle box, so far I have bought
4 different sets of RAM(2 x Aria Value, 4 x Kingston, 2 x Corsair) just
to test this trouble maker..
I have tested it with nVidia FX 5600, QuadroFX 500, ATI Radeon 9600,
9800 Pro(btw, not enough power for those pro cards, need the 250W PSU
instead), several different HDDs, even swapped the DVD+/-RW.

The problem is solved now(I hope!! fingers cross), I went off buying a
new 2400 T'Bred and 2800 Barton today, test both of them in the SK43G,
the 2800 Barton reacts the same as the 2600 Barton, blue screen
everywhere, also used my old 2600 T'bred, crashed during windows start
up, but when I use the 2400, it become stable, running SETI@Home for
over 4 hours without single complains.
Put the new 2800 back, underclock the FSB to 133 = Stable.
Searched on Google for Shuttle SK43G blue screen, what do you know! the
first result shows other people having the same problem also solved it
by underclocking the CPU!
So I guess its the 2400's home from now on, I wonder if the customers
buying the 2600+SK43G+512M bundle from Aria will have the same problem....

Anyway, valuable lesson learned, never buy Special offers again.

S.Chang


Hi,

I wish I had read your comments before I bought this system from HK. I
have the
same problem ! My sys comprise of 2600+ Barton,samsung 512Mb DDR400,
Seagate 80Gb HD, Grandmars TV tuner. At first I though its the tuner
card drivers, but having experimenting for many days. My conclusion is
the System is unstable with maybe all Barton core CPUs.
I have now set the FSB to 150MHz and its running OK and I may increase
this higher until it becomes unstable.
I am still quite happy with the performance, but I cannot believe such
problem can exists with a well know manufacturer.

Is there a proper fix for this problem?

Regards,
AL

AL wrote:
"S.Chang" wrote in message ...

Paul-B - the original and the best! wrote:

S.Chang posted:



S.Chang wrote:


JasonB wrote:



S.Chang wrote:



Hi All,


snip

This may be a shot in the dark, however you mention that the

system will reboot for no reason, sometimes in the middle of a
calculation in Mathematica.


I had this exact same problem with a Soltek QBIC system that I put
together, couldn't work out why it was rebooting intermittantly.

Eventually someone told me to check the Heatsink and make sure

that it was making contact with the CPU. I found that I'd
inadvertantly put the heatsink on the wrong way and that it was
sitting at an angle on the CPU hence the thermal protection kicked
in whenever the CPU reached 85c shutting the system down and
rebooting.


Actually, the CPU in the Shuttle is running at 40~45C, so it's not
so bad considering it's an AMD, and there's only one way you can
fit the heatsink into the SK43G but thanks for the advice.

Regards
S.Chang

Crap...got the replacement back from Aria, but still crashing..
Bought another pair of 512M Kingston, didn't help and veyr little
resource on Google, am I the only one having this problem? come
on...some body?

S.Chang


Have you tried a different graphics card? ISTR reading somewhere about
compat problems with some ATI cards.


Yes, I have changed everything in the Shuttle box, so far I have bought
4 different sets of RAM(2 x Aria Value, 4 x Kingston, 2 x Corsair) just
to test this trouble maker..
I have tested it with nVidia FX 5600, QuadroFX 500, ATI Radeon 9600,
9800 Pro(btw, not enough power for those pro cards, need the 250W PSU
instead), several different HDDs, even swapped the DVD+/-RW.

The problem is solved now(I hope!! fingers cross), I went off buying a
new 2400 T'Bred and 2800 Barton today, test both of them in the SK43G,
the 2800 Barton reacts the same as the 2600 Barton, blue screen
everywhere, also used my old 2600 T'bred, crashed during windows start
up, but when I use the 2400, it become stable, running SETI@Home for
over 4 hours without single complains.
Put the new 2800 back, underclock the FSB to 133 = Stable.
Searched on Google for Shuttle SK43G blue screen, what do you know! the
first result shows other people having the same problem also solved it
by underclocking the CPU!
So I guess its the 2400's home from now on, I wonder if the customers
buying the 2600+SK43G+512M bundle from Aria will have the same problem....

Anyway, valuable lesson learned, never buy Special offers again.

S.Chang



Hi,

I wish I had read your comments before I bought this system from HK. I
have the
same problem ! My sys comprise of 2600+ Barton,samsung 512Mb DDR400,
Seagate 80Gb HD, Grandmars TV tuner. At first I though its the tuner
card drivers, but having experimenting for many days. My conclusion is
the System is unstable with maybe all Barton core CPUs.
I have now set the FSB to 150MHz and its running OK and I may increase
this higher until it becomes unstable.
I am still quite happy with the performance, but I cannot believe such
problem can exists with a well know manufacturer.

Is there a proper fix for this problem?

Regards,
AL

Not really, with Shuttle avoiding my e-mails, I can only "assume" it's a
design flaws in the North Bridge.
Aria's support has asked me to send the SK43G along with RAMs and CPU I
bought from them, which will cost me another 12 pounds to send them back
and 1+ weeks of waiting, to me, the least thing Aria can do is offering
a free collection for all the trouble I need to go through.

S.Chang