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ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage
rokitrik:
I don't have that problem, but the biggest I have used so far is a Segate 80 Gb. The only thing I can think of to try is to check the jumpers on the drive. According to reports, some drive brands work best with Master set. Some work best with Cable Select set. I don't think it is supposed to work at all with Slave set. Whether it is currently Master or Cable Select, try the other setting and see if it helps. I had my Segate 80 set as Master. Please advise if the jumper settings help. I was planning to get a Segate 160 myself to put in my NAS. It'd be a bummer if it turned out to be incompatable. |
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Thanks Segbert
The diskdrive is a segate with the folowing charateristics: Barracuda 7200.7 Model Number:ST3160021A Capacity:160 GB Speed:7200 rpm Seek time:11.5 ms avg Interface:Ultra ATA/100 The jumper setting was "cable select" I switching to "master or single drive" but it did not solve the issue. I was wondering if i had to put in on slave mode since it is not is a primary drive. The NAS OS is part of the ROM, so the disk is basically a slave. I will test this tonight But the funny part is that when I go back to an old firmware version (i.e. NetHDD004-0317) this issue is gone. But I get a lot of other bugs back... Coouple of questions: - What are your jumbersettings with the segate 80GB drive? - did you switched cables form the NAS to the drive. I read some where that it solved another is issue by replacing the capel with a 80-40 wire instead of a 40-40 - Do you know if there are hidden files created on the drive, while formatting the drive using the build in format. Because it does create a public folder. so it could also create more files/dis. thansk ReinJan |
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I've used a Seagate 160GB and it worked fine...until I took the drive
out, put it in another computer to restore some data, and that computer fried the drive. Anyways, I then put a Samsung 160GB in it, and it works fine. Seeing how Tritton sells them with 160GB drives, any 160GB should work--I don't know what brand they use though. |
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I have the Segate 80 in my Linux box now, but when it first arrived, I
just made sure it was jumpered to Master and popped it into the NAS. I used the cable that came with the NAS. When you format it in the NAS, it creates the Public directory at the root level of the drive. It also creates two files at the root level, whose name I don't remember. I assume these retain the NAS settings. When you format in the NAS, it only takes a few seconds, so it could not be really formatting the entire drive. Perhaps the boot block, or file structure is corrupted on it. Maybe it was formerly a Linux ext drive and confuses the NAS format. You could try putting it in a Windows PC and using something like Partition Magic, or some other such utility to check and really reformat the entire drive. Good luck |
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ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage
Problem: Formatting a QUANTUM 20 MB (a few years old), tried
formatting with FAT32 before use, also removing partition info, nothing worked. Solution: Used a newer 120 GB Western Digital drive, removed the Partition info, put into the HD363N, told it to format and the format was almost instant. Noise: Some say the drive is "noisy" -- it's the fan. Could probably reduce that noise with a resistor in series with the fan. Sleep Timer - Fan on/off: Some mentioned that the fan never goes off even after the sleep timer expires (5 or 10 minute timer you set to spins down the drive) - maybe that was the case at one time, but the firmware 1013 stops the fan when it stops the drive. SetEOF Problem: I saw one problem reporti not recognizing the SETEOF - that's a programming issue that has no bearing on using the drive as file storage and retrieval. I have had no trouble editing files that reside on the drive, and they have to open and close the files and seem to do so without problems. ------------ So, bottom line, use an up-to-date drive to avoid formatting problems. I like the ability to set the FTP port being used, which means I can have an FTP server listening on port 21 (my Buffalo-Tech Terrabyte device) and on port 2100 (where I have this HD363N drive). Hal |
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SetEOF Problem: I saw one problem reporti not recognizing the SETEOF
- that's a programming issue that has no bearing on using the drive as file storage and retrieval. "Programming" issue? Indeed so, and one in which the firmware fails to properly implement a fundamental SMB operation. If you use the device as a file server with anything but trivial client software it is also one that'll bite you sooner or later. Those who can get by treating the NAS as some sort of dumb file-by-file backup device will probably never experience it. If you try to use it as an actual file server though you're just a heartbeat away from a failure. Any software that updates a file in place has the potential to trip over this bug. Programs that perform file updating using simulated "tape to tape" operations creating a whole new file on each update will be immune. Reports suggest Win9x versions of NotePad work that way. I would not be surprised to see file archivers or other more sophisticated backup utilities fail for this reason. This is a real bug, and seriously limits the use of this product outside hobbyist scenarios. I know it has kept my units benched instead of being deployed. If they fail with NT4/Win2K/XP NotePad I can't begin to trust them in the wild. That said, in other ways the product performs quite well. I have about 1200 hours of continuous operation on one unit without a restart. |
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As dilettante wrote ""Programming" issue? Indeed so, and one in which
the firmware fails to properly implement a fundamental SMB operation. If you use the device as a file server with anything but trivial client software it is also one that'll bite you sooner or later. " dilettante also wrote "This is a real bug, and seriously limits the use of this product outside hobbyist scenarios. I know it has kept my units benched instead of being deployed. If they fail with NT4/Win2K/XP NotePad I can't begin to trust them in the wild. " Perhaps an example of the failure using notepad would be useful. Clearly nobody wants a hidden failure lurking that will cause lost data. I've experienced network errors with bad NIC cards as well, which might point to some other hardware issue somewhere, not necessarily the firmware in the unit itself. The jury may still be out ?? So far, having saved numerous files, edited files, downloaded files, etc., to the drive, and using it as an FTP server for a while, it seems to work fine. Also, it has a relatively unique ability to allow both Anonymous FTP and user account/password FTP. For the price, it's got a lot of features. If the SetEOF issue is indeed narrowed down to the firmware, and not some other potential hardware issue, it would be nice to have a way to duplicate the problem and get some other users to verify it. So far, I think (and I might be wrong) the only person reporting this "bug" is dilettante. As they say, one Robin doesn't make it spring. But two or more might be indicative of something Hal |
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I have independently replicated dilletante's SET EOF bug.
When using W98se and notpad I cannot replicate the problem. When using Linux and KWrite I cannot replicate the problem When using W2k and notepad, I CAN SOLIDLY replicate the problem. I have not tried XP. When I get a chance, I will boot up a Live Linux CD in the W2k machine and see if it replicates using Linux through the same hardware. |
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ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage
HalRogers,
Please see [b:3de617d56d]dilettante[/b:3de617d56d]'s post on Sun Sep 11, 2005, in this thread, in which he clearly describes how to reproduce the end-of-file error. In general: I've continued to test for this issue with other editors. To date, the only other editor that can produce the same result is Open Office's Writer. If I edit a text file, not in Open Office format but just text, the same way as is suggested in Notepad, I get the same result. But, if I edit a text file with other editors, I am not able to produced the same outcome ... the files look fine. To be best of knowledge, this issue was reported to both Argosy and Tritton, and subsequently confirmed by both, before the 6-1013 firmware was released. Thus, I believe they have not yet found the root cause. |
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ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage
segbert,
When you run Linux, perhaps you could run Open Office's Writer to edit the text file (remember to save the file in text format, not Open Office's file formats) and see if the error occurs. Maybe you should do it running Open Office in Windows first, just so you know you can create the error with Open Office. At this exact momment, I'm not sure if I was running Open Office 1.5 or 2.0 when I tested ... but, I'm guessing it was 1.5. |
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