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  #31  
Old April 23rd 07, 08:56 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.arch.storage
Odie Ferrous
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Default bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!

Nik Simpson wrote:

Folkert Rienstra wrote:
"Nik Simpson" wrote in message
Folkert Rienstra wrote:
"Nik Simpson" wrote in message
willbill wrote:
bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!

i've come across connection issues with my (admittedly limited) use
of SATA drives, both data and power, most recently power.

what an aggrevation!

are others seeing this?

Yes, I think there is a special place in hell for the idiot who designed
the SATA connectors on the disk.
How strange when below you just say they work utterly fine when used as intended.

I've given up, and when I build a PC I install a drive housing that occupies
3x5.25" bays and gives me four hot plug SATA bugs. Because of the way
this is designed I've not had a single problem with power or drive connectors
since doing this.
Gee, what a surprise: you are using them as intended.


So you're saying, that all the PC solutions out there where the
power/data connectors go directly into the drive as opposed to a
backplane are not using SATA drives the way they are intended.


I did?
I said that *you* were using the drives that *you* bought
(with backplane type power connectors) as 'intended'.
I said nothing about *all* Sata drives.
In the other post I specifically said to use drives with regular
molex power connector if you are not using them in servers or
other systems that use backplane type connectors or cages.

If that's the case,


So obviously not.

then perhaps you could provide a cite for this claim,
since pretty much every commercially available PC with
SATA drives are configured with direct connections


from the motherboard to the drives with no intervening backplane.


Please try and work on your read apprehension.


First, if you want get all superior, you might want to look up
"apprehension" and "comprehension" in a dictionary!

Nik,


Please don't wind Folknutter up.

Laughter is most definitely the best medicine, and his posts crease me
up no end.

I love them! The most hilarious poster on usenet, as far as I'm
concerned!

Read them, learn to live with them, realise the desperation in them, lay
back and laugh!

*Please* don't spoil my fun by chasing him away - he's precious.

Odie
  #32  
Old April 23rd 07, 11:42 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.arch.storage
Arno Wagner
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Default bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Odie Ferrous wrote:
Nik Simpson wrote:

Folkert Rienstra wrote:
"Nik Simpson" wrote in message
Folkert Rienstra wrote:
"Nik Simpson" wrote in message
willbill wrote:
bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!

i've come across connection issues with my (admittedly limited) use
of SATA drives, both data and power, most recently power.

what an aggrevation!

are others seeing this?

Yes, I think there is a special place in hell for the idiot who designed
the SATA connectors on the disk.
How strange when below you just say they work utterly fine when used as intended.

I've given up, and when I build a PC I install a drive housing that occupies
3x5.25" bays and gives me four hot plug SATA bugs. Because of the way
this is designed I've not had a single problem with power or drive connectors
since doing this.
Gee, what a surprise: you are using them as intended.

So you're saying, that all the PC solutions out there where the
power/data connectors go directly into the drive as opposed to a
backplane are not using SATA drives the way they are intended.

I did?
I said that *you* were using the drives that *you* bought
(with backplane type power connectors) as 'intended'.
I said nothing about *all* Sata drives.
In the other post I specifically said to use drives with regular
molex power connector if you are not using them in servers or
other systems that use backplane type connectors or cages.

If that's the case,

So obviously not.

then perhaps you could provide a cite for this claim,
since pretty much every commercially available PC with
SATA drives are configured with direct connections

from the motherboard to the drives with no intervening backplane.

Please try and work on your read apprehension.


First, if you want get all superior, you might want to look up
"apprehension" and "comprehension" in a dictionary!

Nik,



Please don't wind Folknutter up.


Laughter is most definitely the best medicine, and his posts crease me
up no end.


I love them! The most hilarious poster on usenet, as far as I'm
concerned!


Read them, learn to live with them, realise the desperation in them, lay
back and laugh!


*Please* don't spoil my fun by chasing him away - he's precious.


Hehe. No chance of that. The only thing I really admire in Folkert is
his persistence. Truely amazing.

Arno
  #33  
Old April 26th 07, 10:47 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.arch.storage
Folkert Rienstra
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Default bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!

"Arno Wagner" wrote in message
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Odie Ferrous wrote:
Nik Simpson wrote:
Folkert Rienstra wrote:
"Nik Simpson" wrote in message
Folkert Rienstra wrote:
"Nik Simpson" wrote in message
willbill wrote:
bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!

i've come across connection issues with my (admittedly limited) use
of SATA drives, both data and power, most recently power.
what an aggrevation! are others seeing this?

Yes, I think there is a special place in hell for the idiot who designed
the SATA connectors on the disk.
How strange when below you just say they work utterly fine when used as intended.

I've given up, and when I build a PC I install a drive housing that occupies
3x5.25" bays and gives me four hot plug SATA bugs. Because of the way
this is designed I've not had a single problem with power or drive connectors
since doing this.
Gee, what a surprise: you are using them as intended.

So you're saying, that all the PC solutions out there where the
power/data connectors go directly into the drive as opposed to a
backplane are not using SATA drives the way they are intended.

I did?
I said that *you* were using the drives that *you* bought
(with backplane type power connectors) as 'intended'.
I said nothing about *all* Sata drives.
In the other post I specifically said to use drives with regular
molex power connector if you are not using them in servers or
other systems that use backplane type connectors or cages.

If that's the case,

So obviously not.

then perhaps you could provide a cite for this claim,
since pretty much every commercially available PC with
SATA drives are configured with direct connections

from the motherboard to the drives with no intervening backplane.

Please try and work on your read apprehension.


First, if you want get all superior, you might want to look up
"apprehension" and "comprehension" in a dictionary!


Uhuh. Like you did, eh Nikki?
Obviously not.

http://www.google.com/search?num=100...G=S earch&lr=

Sounds to me that the use of 'reading apprehension' was totally appropriate, Nikki.


Nik,



Please don't wind Folknutter up.


Laughter is most definitely the best medicine, and his posts crease me
up no end.


I love them! The most hilarious poster on usenet, as far as I'm concerned!


Read them, learn to live with them, realise the desperation in them, lay
back and laugh!


*Please* don't spoil my fun by chasing him away - he's precious.


And now you know exactly what moves the odi(e)fe(r)rous, 'the stinking one'.

Hehe. No chance of that. The only thing I really admire in Folkert is
his persistence. Truely amazing.


Sounds like a perfect description of yourself, babblebot. To a T.
Have you been gazing in that mirror again? I told you to stop that.


Arno


  #34  
Old April 27th 07, 12:40 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.arch.storage
Nik Simpson
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Posts: 73
Default bloody SATA connectors (electrical)!

I note you failed to address any of the points I made about SATA power
connectors. Just in case you were having comprehension or apprehension
difficulties, I'll restate them for you...

If drives with SATA-style power connector are not to be used except in
backplane type situations, how come:

1. Why do the drive vendors make no attempt to distinguish between those
drives that require SATA type power connectors and those that don't on
the retail packaging?

2. Why do modern PC power supplies have SATA type power connectors as a
standard feature?

3. Why do major PC vendors ship drives with SATA type power connectors
without worrying about putting a backplane in for the drives?

Come on you're such smart fellow, entertain us, give us an explanation!
--
Nik Simpson
 




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