Question about various low end NAS's from HP and Dell

I am looking into getting more storage for one of my clients networks.
I am looking into 2 NAS units right now but am open up to
suggestions.

The Dell Powervault 745N and the HP Storag works 1200s

Both of these run WSS2003 and have IDE drives in them. The thing that
concerns me is performance w/ the IDE drives. Have any of you used
these? Are they basically just cheap toys? Or are they serious and
can handle about 125+ users accessing various small files without
bogging down?

One of the other things that I would like to do w/ these is to also
run backups from the servers to shares on it. I know that is possible
but once the backup is on the HD w/ backup exec is it possible to then
transfer that to a tape drive?

I am basically just looking for opinions on these. It would be
fantastic to hear from someone who actually has one of the units. I
would go w/ something more exspensive but these guys do not have much
money to spend.

Thank you.

On 6 Apr 2004 08:22:47 -0700, (Vince) wrote:

I am looking into getting more storage for one of my clients networks.
I am looking into 2 NAS units right now but am open up to
suggestions.

The Dell Powervault 745N and the HP Storag works 1200s

Both of these run WSS2003 and have IDE drives in them. The thing that
concerns me is performance w/ the IDE drives. Have any of you used
these? Are they basically just cheap toys? Or are they serious and
can handle about 125+ users accessing various small files without
bogging down?

One of the other things that I would like to do w/ these is to also
run backups from the servers to shares on it. I know that is possible
but once the backup is on the HD w/ backup exec is it possible to then
transfer that to a tape drive?

I am basically just looking for opinions on these. It would be
fantastic to hear from someone who actually has one of the units. I
would go w/ something more exspensive but these guys do not have much
money to spend.


Well, anybody is willing to sell product, but the important thing is to
really define what the business drivers and goals are so that you can more
successfully apply the correct technology that will support their business.

Lots of things are possible, but if the technology doesn't apply to their
real nees or expectations, then it's the wrong thing to buy.

On the backup question, you'll have to be more specific. Do you mean the
backup product integrated with Windows, or a version directly from VERITAS?
Which version? Which options?


--- jls
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jlsue wrote in message . ..
On 6 Apr 2004 08:22:47 -0700, (Vince) wrote:

I am looking into getting more storage for one of my clients networks.
I am looking into 2 NAS units right now but am open up to
suggestions.

The Dell Powervault 745N and the HP Storag works 1200s

Both of these run WSS2003 and have IDE drives in them. The thing that
concerns me is performance w/ the IDE drives. Have any of you used
these? Are they basically just cheap toys? Or are they serious and
can handle about 125+ users accessing various small files without
bogging down?

One of the other things that I would like to do w/ these is to also
run backups from the servers to shares on it. I know that is possible
but once the backup is on the HD w/ backup exec is it possible to then
transfer that to a tape drive?

I am basically just looking for opinions on these. It would be
fantastic to hear from someone who actually has one of the units. I
would go w/ something more exspensive but these guys do not have much
money to spend.


Well, anybody is willing to sell product, but the important thing is to
really define what the business drivers and goals are so that you can more
successfully apply the correct technology that will support their business.

Lots of things are possible, but if the technology doesn't apply to their
real nees or expectations, then it's the wrong thing to buy.

On the backup question, you'll have to be more specific. Do you mean the
backup product integrated with Windows, or a version directly from VERITAS?
Which version? Which options?

I am talking veritas backup exec 9.1. I want to run backups to a HD.
I have done this before but I am wondering if I can then transfer
those backups to a tape, and if I do so to the tape will it just
backup the large backup file? or will it actually put the files
seperatly onto the tape as if the backup was originally put there to
begin with.




--- jls
The preceding message was personal opinion only.
I do not speak in any authorized capacity for anyone,
and certainly not my employer.
(get rid of the xxxz in my address to e-mail)

On 9 Apr 2004 07:35:10 -0700, (Vince) wrote:



I am talking veritas backup exec 9.1. I want to run backups to a HD.
I have done this before but I am wondering if I can then transfer
those backups to a tape, and if I do so to the tape will it just
backup the large backup file? or will it actually put the files
seperatly onto the tape as if the backup was originally put there to
begin with.


Well, BE 9.1 can do staging to HD, and then moving off to tape later. This
does not just move the 'large backup file', but maintains the backups as
separate "media".

You'd start with creating the "backup folder(s)" you want to use. Your
backup jobs would specify these virtual devices as the destination of the
backup.

Then you'd setup "duplication" jobs and select the backup folder as your
source, and a real tape drive/library as the destination.

The administration guide specifies all of this in chapters 4 and 6.

--- jls
The preceding message was personal opinion only.
I do not speak in any authorized capacity for anyone,
and certainly not my employer.
(get rid of the xxxz in my address to e-mail)