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Contact number/email needed for Packard Bell in the UK.
I just tried submitting this email to some email addresses for Packard
Bell that I got off the Internet (that sadly were 10 years old). Can anyone help with something more up to date? I post the email here as it may be of interest and somebody may be able to say if Packard Bell are the right people to get in contact with. ===================== Dear Sir/Madam, I am trying to sell a Zenith systems stand alone version of Windows 3.1 for workgroups on ebay (userid: m032tr00). Here is a link to the item that was not cancelled by ebay but did not sell regardless http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEUS:IT&ih=007 As I understand it I have to contact the company producing the product to find out why there is a restriction on it that prevents me from selling it on ebay. Zenith are no more ... and were taken over by Packard Bell NEC. Therefore I assume that I have to contact you about this. This item is not OEM software. It is a free standing package that can be used with any single computer and I have typed out the licence and can send that to show that I have legal rights to be able to sell this software. Here is the licence information. I hope this will allow you to clarify the situation with ebay Yours sincerely BJ ========================================== Zenith Data Systems Software End User Licence Agreement Carefully read the following terms and conditions before opening the diskette package. Opening the diskette package indicates your understanding and acceptance of all the following terms and conditions. If you do not agree with them, you may promptly return the diskette package unopened and any associated documentation (collectively refered to as SOFTWARE) to your dealer and your money will be refunded. IMPORTANT. This SOFTARE is a propriety product and is protected by copyright laws. It is licenced (not sold) for use on a single machine, and is licenced only on the condition that you agree to the terms of this END- USER LICENCE AGREEMENT. You assume responsibility for the selection of the SOFTWARE to achieve your intended results, and for the installation, use and results obtained from the SOFTWARE. Licence 1. Use. You may use the SOFTWARE on a single machine. The SOFTWARE may be removed from one machine and physically transferred to another machine, but shall not under any circumstances be used concurrently on more than one machine. 2. Copy, modify and merge. You may copy the SOFTWARE into any machine-readable or printed form for backup or modification purposes in support of your use of the SOFTWARE on a single machine. Any portion of this SOFTWARE merged into another program will continue to be subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement. You must reproduce and include the copyright nitice(s) on any copy, modification or portion merged into another program. 3. Transfer. You may transfer the SOFTWARE together with this licence to another party, but only if the other party agrees to accept the terms and conditions of this Agreement. If you transfer the SOFTWARE and licence, you must at the same time either transfer all copies (whether in printed or machine-readible form) to the same party, or destroy any copies not transferred, including all modifications and portions of the SOFTWARE contained or merged into other programs. Any such transfer of the SOFTWARE and licence to another party terminates your licence. Any attempt to transfer the SOFTWARE and licence, other than as set forth herein, shall be null and void. In no event may you transfer, assign, rent, lease, sell or otherwise dispose of the SOFTWARE on a temporary or permanent basis, except as expressly provided herein. 4. Other restrictions. You may not reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble the SOFTWARE. 5. Dual media software. If the software package contains both 3.5" and 5.25" disks, you may use only the disks appropriate for your single-user computer. You may not use the other disks on another computer, or loan, rent, lease or transfer them to another user, except as part of the permanent transfer (as provided above) of all SOFTWARE and written materials. Except as expressly provided in this agreement, any use, copying, modification, or merging of the SOFTWARE, including documentation, or transfer of the software and licence, is prohibited. Term. The licence is effective until terminated. You may terminate it at any other time by destroying the SOFTWARE together with all copies, modifications and merged portions in any form. It will also terminate upon conditions set forth elsewhere in this Agreement, or if you fail to comply with any term or condition of this Agreement. You agree upon such termination to destroy the SOFTWARE together with all copies, modifications and merged portions in any form. Limited warranty. The SOFTWARE is provided "as is" without warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose. The entire risk as to the quality and performance of the software is with you. Should the SOFTWARE prove defective, you (and not Zenith Data Systems Corporation (hereinafter named ZDS), Microsoft Corporation, or an authorized personal computer dealer) assume the entire cost of all necessary servicing, repair or correction. Some states do not allow the exclusion of implied warranties, so the above exclusion may not apply to you. This warranty gives you specific legal rights and you may also have other rights which vary from state to state. Neither ZDS nor Microsoft Corporation warrants that the functions contained in the SOFTWARE will meet your requirements or that the operation of the SOFTWARE will be uninterrupted or error free. ZDS warrants the diskette(s) on which the SOFTWARE is furnished to be free from defects in materials and workmanship under normal use for a period of ninety (90) days from the date of delivery to you, as evidenced by a copy of your purchase receipt. Limitations of remedies. ZDS's and Microsoft Corporation's entire liability and your exclusive remedy shall be the replacement of any diskette not meeting ZDS's "Limited Warranty" and which is returned to ZDS at the address below with a copy of your purchase receipt. In no event will ZDS or Microsoft Corporation be liable to you for any damages, including lost profits, lost savings or other incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use or inability to use such SOFTWARE, even if ZDS, Microsoft Corporation or any authorised ZDS personal computer dealer has been advised of the possibility of such damages, or for any claim by any other party. Some states do not allow the limitation or exclusion of liability for incidental or consequential damages, so the above limitation or exclusion may not apply to you. General. This Agreement will be governed by the laws of the State of Michigan. U.S. Government restricted rights. Use, duplicaqtion or disclosure by the Government is subject to restrictions as set forth in subparaqgraph (c)(1)(ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer Software clause at DFAQRS 252q.227-701q3 (Oct 1988); or, if provided under a contract or subcontract with NASA or a civilian agency of the Government, to the restrictions set forth in such contract or subcontract. Zenith Data Systems Corporation of Hilltop Road, St. Joseph, Michigan 49085. You acknowledge that you have read this agreement, understand it, and agree to be bound by its terms and conditions. You further agree that it is the complete and exclusive statement of the agreement between you and ZDS which supersedes any proposal or prior agreement oral or written, and any other communications between us relating to the subject matter of this agreement. Should you have any questions concerning this Agreement, or if you desire to contact ZDS for any reason, please contact your ZDS Sqales Representative Zenith Data Systems Europe Zenith Data Systems Marketting Department Service Receiving 55, Avenue des Champs Pierreux 2901 Lakeshore Drive 92002 Nanterre St. Joseph, MI 49085 |
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Contact number/email needed for Packard Bell in the UK.
"Bill Jillians" wrote in message ... I just tried submitting this email to some email addresses for Packard Bell that I got off the Internet (that sadly were 10 years old). Can anyone help with something more up to date? I post the email here as it may be of interest and somebody may be able to say if Packard Bell are the right people to get in contact with. ===================== Dear Sir/Madam, I am trying to sell a Zenith systems stand alone version of Windows 3.1 for workgroups on ebay (userid: m032tr00). Here is a link to the item that was not cancelled by ebay but did not sell regardless http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEUS:IT&ih=007 As I understand it I have to contact the company producing the product to find out why there is a restriction on it that prevents me from selling it on ebay. Zenith are no more ... and were taken over by Packard Bell NEC. Therefore I assume that I have to contact you about this. snip First off...to find Packard Bell...it's as simple as a Google search. It will come up as the first hit. Note: As you *clearly* stated above the item was*NOT*...cancelled by ebay... it simply did not sell. *As you have clearly stated* My guess is that no one actualy wants to buy a 386 machine or whatever it was you were trying to sell. |
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Contact number/email needed for Packard Bell in the UK.
On 1 Feb, 09:02, "philo" wrote:
"Bill Jillians" wrote in message ... I just tried submitting this email to some email addresses for Packard Bell that I got off the Internet (that sadly were 10 years old). Can anyone help with something more up to date? I post the email here as it may be of interest and somebody may be able to say if Packard Bell are the right people to get in contact with. ===================== Dear Sir/Madam, I am trying to sell a Zenith systems stand alone version of Windows 3.1 for workgroups on ebay (userid: m032tr00). *Here is a link to the item that was not cancelled by ebay but did not sell regardless http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...em=17017521569.... As I understand it I have to contact the company producing the product to find out why there is a restriction on it that prevents me from selling it on ebay. *Zenith are no more ... and were taken over by Packard Bell NEC. Therefore I assume that I have to contact you about this. snip First off...to find Packard Bell...it's as simple as a Google search. It will come up as the first hit. Note: As you *clearly* stated above the item was*NOT*...cancelled by ebay.... it simply did not sell. *As you have clearly stated* My guess is that no one actualy wants to buy a 386 machine or whatever it was you were trying to sell.- Hide quoted text - My apologies for not clarifying things. I was selling these software packaged until December 2007 with no trouble from ebay. Suddenly at that point they started cancelling my adverts. The advert listed in the link was the last one that neither sold or was cancelled. Ebay don't keep links to cancelled items on their server. I am selling Windows for Workgroups 3.1 in a sealed pack and no indication in the licence that I should not be able to do so or that I am selling OEM software and that hardware should be included with the software. I naturally tried Google and got an address for Packard Bell which is the NL from their website. No functioning email address was given. I searched Google for an unofficial email address and got 2 that don't work. I would have thought it wouldn't be so difficult to come to a packard bell newsgroup and expect some regular to be able to provide a current email address for the company but maybe I am wrong about that. Thank you. Bill Jillians - Show quoted text - |
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Contact number/email needed for Packard Bell in the UK.
"Bill Jillians" wrote in message ... snip My apologies for not clarifying things. I was selling these software packaged until December 2007 with no trouble from ebay. Suddenly at that point they started cancelling my adverts. The advert listed in the link was the last one that neither sold or was cancelled. Ebay don't keep links to cancelled items on their server. I am selling Windows for Workgroups 3.1 in a sealed pack and no indication in the licence that I should not be able to do so or that I am selling OEM software and that hardware should be included with the software. I naturally tried Google and got an address for Packard Bell which is the NL from their website. No functioning email address was given. I searched Google for an unofficial email address and got 2 that don't work. I would have thought it wouldn't be so difficult to come to a packard bell newsgroup and expect some regular to be able to provide a current email address for the company but maybe I am wrong about that. Thank you. Bill Jillians Bill This is the Official Email from the website: http://www.packardbell.co.uk/cross/contact After you click I purchased my Product somewhere else the email opens up. I Hope I helped? Elector |
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Contact number/email needed for Packard Bell in the UK.
"Elector" wrote in message news:kvEoj.2120$4f.1846@trndny08... "Bill Jillians" wrote in message ... snip My apologies for not clarifying things. I was selling these software packaged until December 2007 with no trouble from ebay. Suddenly at that point they started cancelling my adverts. The advert listed in the link was the last one that neither sold or was cancelled. Ebay don't keep links to cancelled items on their server. I am selling Windows for Workgroups 3.1 in a sealed pack and no indication in the licence that I should not be able to do so or that I am selling OEM software and that hardware should be included with the software. I naturally tried Google and got an address for Packard Bell which is the NL from their website. No functioning email address was given. I searched Google for an unofficial email address and got 2 that don't work. I would have thought it wouldn't be so difficult to come to a packard bell newsgroup and expect some regular to be able to provide a current email address for the company but maybe I am wrong about that. Thank you. Bill Jillians Bill This is the Official Email from the website: http://www.packardbell.co.uk/cross/contact After you click I purchased my Product somewhere else the email opens up. I Hope I helped? Elector Here is a list of UK forums http://forum.packardbell.com/en/ As to Ebay cancelling your listing... Even though win3x if quite old...Ebay sill cancels sales of operating systems they think may not be licensed |
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Contact number/email needed for Packard Bell in the UK.
Somehow I escaped eBay and Microsoft scrutiny when I recently sold a
shrink-wrapped French version of Windows 98 OEM... Ben Myers On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:28:32 -0600, "philo" wrote: "Elector" wrote in message news:kvEoj.2120$4f.1846@trndny08... "Bill Jillians" wrote in message ... snip My apologies for not clarifying things. I was selling these software packaged until December 2007 with no trouble from ebay. Suddenly at that point they started cancelling my adverts. The advert listed in the link was the last one that neither sold or was cancelled. Ebay don't keep links to cancelled items on their server. I am selling Windows for Workgroups 3.1 in a sealed pack and no indication in the licence that I should not be able to do so or that I am selling OEM software and that hardware should be included with the software. I naturally tried Google and got an address for Packard Bell which is the NL from their website. No functioning email address was given. I searched Google for an unofficial email address and got 2 that don't work. I would have thought it wouldn't be so difficult to come to a packard bell newsgroup and expect some regular to be able to provide a current email address for the company but maybe I am wrong about that. Thank you. Bill Jillians Bill This is the Official Email from the website: http://www.packardbell.co.uk/cross/contact After you click I purchased my Product somewhere else the email opens up. I Hope I helped? Elector Here is a list of UK forums http://forum.packardbell.com/en/ As to Ebay cancelling your listing... Even though win3x if quite old...Ebay sill cancels sales of operating systems they think may not be licensed |
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Contact number/email needed for Packard Bell in the UK.
"Ben Myers" wrote in message ... Somehow I escaped eBay and Microsoft scrutiny when I recently sold a shrink-wrapped French version of Windows 98 OEM... Ben Myers I assume you supplied the license with it...so that of course was completely legit. I don't know where one would come up with a license for win3x... maybe Ebay assumed the win3x was not licensed and pulled the auction...??? |
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Contact number/email needed for Packard Bell in the UK.
I think I still have in my garage a few packaged sets of Win 3.1 and DOS 6.22,
manuals, certificate and all. To install 3.1, you did not need to enter a license key, IIRC... Ben Myers On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 17:12:27 -0600, "philo" wrote: "Ben Myers" wrote in message .. . Somehow I escaped eBay and Microsoft scrutiny when I recently sold a shrink-wrapped French version of Windows 98 OEM... Ben Myers I assume you supplied the license with it...so that of course was completely legit. I don't know where one would come up with a license for win3x... maybe Ebay assumed the win3x was not licensed and pulled the auction...??? |
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Contact number/email needed for Packard Bell in the UK.
"Ben Myers" wrote in message ... I think I still have in my garage a few packaged sets of Win 3.1 and DOS 6.22, manuals, certificate and all. To install 3.1, you did not need to enter a license key, IIRC... Ben Myers That's correct. Win3x never needed a license key... and most of the software back then never needed one either. I recall a funny story about some win3x software i once picked up at a rummage sale. When I went to install it...I did have to enter a serial number...which I of course did not have. The installer said something like this: Enter S/N ( IE: XXX-XXXXX) Out of frustration I just entered : XXX-XXXXX Yep, it worked fine G |
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