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3rd party ink cartridge in some peril.
Epson has succeeded in stopping the distribution of most 3rd party ink
cartridges through a successful lawsuit. I personally question the wisdom of the court in this case and believe it may prove to swing a shift in the color inkjet industry. Here is the Epson press release: If you have not yet read it yet, here is the original Epson press release: http://www.epson.co.jp/e/newsroom/20...20071022_2.htm Art |
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3rd party ink cartridge in some peril.
If I had to give up third party inks I would give up my Epson printer.
I paid for my Epson printer. I pay for each pack of Epson paper. I will not be forced to buy exhorbitantly overpriced Epson ink. "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:EGiWi.164916$Da.33959@pd7urf1no... Epson has succeeded in stopping the distribution of most 3rd party ink cartridges through a successful lawsuit. I personally question the wisdom of the court in this case and believe it may prove to swing a shift in the color inkjet industry. Here is the Epson press release: If you have not yet read it yet, here is the original Epson press release: http://www.epson.co.jp/e/newsroom/20...20071022_2.htm Art |
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3rd party ink cartridge in some peril.
"Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:EGiWi.164916$Da.33959@pd7urf1no... Epson has succeeded in stopping the distribution of most 3rd party ink cartridges through a successful lawsuit. I personally question the wisdom of the court in this case and believe it may prove to swing a shift in the color inkjet industry. Here is the Epson press release: If you have not yet read it yet, here is the original Epson press release: http://www.epson.co.jp/e/newsroom/20...20071022_2.htm Art The article doesn't really specify what carts/tanks are affected, so I wouldn't jump to any conclusions. |
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3rd party ink cartridge in some peril.
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:13:30 -0600, "DanG" wrote:
"Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:EGiWi.164916$Da.33959@pd7urf1no... Epson has succeeded in stopping the distribution of most 3rd party ink cartridges through a successful lawsuit. I personally question the wisdom of the court in this case and believe it may prove to swing a shift in the color inkjet industry. Here is the Epson press release: If you have not yet read it yet, here is the original Epson press release: http://www.epson.co.jp/e/newsroom/20...20071022_2.htm Art The article doesn't really specify what carts/tanks are affected, so I wouldn't jump to any conclusions. I think someone like Lyson is a bigger threat since their inks rival Epson OEM. I don't think they can slap Lyson out of the market |
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3rd party ink cartridge in some peril.
Sounds great. Maybe now the fly by niters will disclose the truth.
Arthur Entlich wrote: Epson has succeeded in stopping the distribution of most 3rd party ink cartridges through a successful lawsuit. I personally question the wisdom of the court in this case and believe it may prove to swing a shift in the color inkjet industry. Here is the Epson press release: If you have not yet read it yet, here is the original Epson press release: http://www.epson.co.jp/e/newsroom/20...20071022_2.htm Art |
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3rd party ink cartridge in some peril.
There are more documents available. It concerns ALL desktop models, and
if signed into law by GW Bush (as is expected), will likely put an end to import into the US or manufacture by US companies or any cartridges which violate the patents, not only for Epson products, but probably all inkjet printer models, as the law will be broad enough to "protect" all manufacturers of patented cartridges. Epson has a new website dealing with just this issue directed to manufacturers and importers of cartridges fitting their printers. It is found at: http://itc.epson.com/ I understand there are about 500 pages involved in the court documents. I believe this is just the thin edge of the wedge, and more will follow from other manufacturers, and that Epson and others will also attempt to make chip resetters non-functional and or illegal to manufacture. At this point, my sense is that 3rd party inkjet printer companies, consumers, and any lawyers looking into class action based upon anti-trust legislation or consumer protection laws regarding design flaws or undocumented restrictive features such as the shut down when waste ink pads are deemed full (which is not documented, and creates an "end of life" condition which is relatively costly to repair legitimately) need to be pursued legally. Since probably all printer manufacturers will jump on any new legislation to protect their ink sales, I cannot suggest one brand over another at this time. Art DanG wrote: "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:EGiWi.164916$Da.33959@pd7urf1no... Epson has succeeded in stopping the distribution of most 3rd party ink cartridges through a successful lawsuit. I personally question the wisdom of the court in this case and believe it may prove to swing a shift in the color inkjet industry. Here is the Epson press release: If you have not yet read it yet, here is the original Epson press release: http://www.epson.co.jp/e/newsroom/20...20071022_2.htm Art The article doesn't really specify what carts/tanks are affected, so I wouldn't jump to any conclusions. |
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3rd party ink cartridge in some peril.
"Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:ECZWi.171700$th2.63884@pd7urf3no... There are more documents available. It concerns ALL desktop models, and if signed into law by GW Bush (as is expected), will likely put an end to import into the US or manufacture by US companies or any cartridges which violate the patents, not only for Epson products, but probably all inkjet printer models, as the law will be broad enough to "protect" all manufacturers of patented cartridges. The ITC ruled that Epson's patents were valid, and that they were infringed upon by the third parties. Patents law is in place to protect the original inventors for a period of time. To suggest that the ruling should not go forward would require that you either believe 1) the patents are not valid or 2) that patent protection should not be applied in the US. Which is your position? If 1), then which patents specifically do you believe are invalid, despite the ITC's ruling? - Bob Headrick |
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3rd party ink cartridge in some peril.
Bob Headrick wrote:
"Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:ECZWi.171700$th2.63884@pd7urf3no... There are more documents available. It concerns ALL desktop models, and if signed into law by GW Bush (as is expected), will likely put an end to import into the US or manufacture by US companies or any cartridges which violate the patents, not only for Epson products, but probably all inkjet printer models, as the law will be broad enough to "protect" all manufacturers of patented cartridges. The ITC ruled that Epson's patents were valid, and that they were infringed upon by the third parties. Patents law is in place to protect the original inventors for a period of time. To suggest that the ruling should not go forward would require that you either believe 1) the patents are not valid or 2) that patent protection should not be applied in the US. Which is your position? If 1), then which patents specifically do you believe are invalid, despite the ITC's ruling? My problem with the whole OEM ink/patent issue is that the patents they are using to shut down the sale of third party cartridges have nothing to do with making the printer better for the consumer. They only exist to force buyes to purchase high priced OEM ink. Would the Government allow Toyota, Ford GM etc. to sell vehicles that only burned OEM gasoline, used OEM oil or tires? Of course they wouldn't and letting printer manufacturers do the same is just as wrong. IMO, patent law is meant to protect a product that is innovative and new to the market and not to protect an arbitrary cartridge configuration/chip that means nothing to the functionality of the overall product. At least I can do one thing...... never buy Epson products of any type. |
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