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Corrupt NTFS Filesystem
Back in February 2006, I posted the following:
+++ Almost every time I reboot my Win2K/SP4 system, CHKDSK runs because Win2K detected a "corrupt ntfs filesystem" on the boot disk. Every once in a while I get a BSOD instead, in which case I have to move the bad disk to D: and run CHKDSK manually from inside Win2K. [snip] +++ Posters on this forum made several suggestions which unfortunately did not stop the problem. Then one day the problem went away for good - I have never had a CHKDSK run on me or did I get a BSOD either at reboot since. So what did I do that fixed this problem? The only thing I can think of was I ran the latest version of Registry Mechanic. It is extensively updated from previous versions and it must have found something that was causing the CHKDSK/BSOD problem, probably indirectly because most of the time there were no NTFS errors. I have no idea what was in the registry that was causing this problem, only that it is gone for good. -- "It's impossible to obtain a conviction for sodomy from an English jury. Half of them don't believe that it can physically be done, and the other half are doing it." --Winston Churchill |
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There is a registry setting that if it gets set will cause the system to
think that you have had a disk problem, but that will not get reset when you run CHKDSK. I read about it in a newsgroup, possibly this one. Maybe you can find it if you google. Todd "Bob" wrote in message ... Back in February 2006, I posted the following: +++ Almost every time I reboot my Win2K/SP4 system, CHKDSK runs because Win2K detected a "corrupt ntfs filesystem" on the boot disk. Every once in a while I get a BSOD instead, in which case I have to move the bad disk to D: and run CHKDSK manually from inside Win2K. [snip] +++ Posters on this forum made several suggestions which unfortunately did not stop the problem. Then one day the problem went away for good - I have never had a CHKDSK run on me or did I get a BSOD either at reboot since. So what did I do that fixed this problem? The only thing I can think of was I ran the latest version of Registry Mechanic. It is extensively updated from previous versions and it must have found something that was causing the CHKDSK/BSOD problem, probably indirectly because most of the time there were no NTFS errors. I have no idea what was in the registry that was causing this problem, only that it is gone for good. -- "It's impossible to obtain a conviction for sodomy from an English jury. Half of them don't believe that it can physically be done, and the other half are doing it." --Winston Churchill |
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"Bob" wrote in message
... Back in February 2006, I posted the following: +++ Almost every time I reboot my Win2K/SP4 system, CHKDSK runs because Win2K detected a "corrupt ntfs filesystem" on the boot disk. Every once in a while I get a BSOD instead, in which case I have to move the bad disk to D: and run CHKDSK manually from inside Win2K. [snip] +++ Posters on this forum made several suggestions which unfortunately did not stop the problem. Then one day the problem went away for good - I have never had a CHKDSK run on me or did I get a BSOD either at reboot since. So what did I do that fixed this problem? The only thing I can think of was I ran the latest version of Registry Mechanic. It is extensively updated from previous versions and it must have found something that was causing the CHKDSK/BSOD problem, probably indirectly because most of the time there were no NTFS errors. I have no idea what was in the registry that was causing this problem, only that it is gone for good. If YOU don't know what the registry cleaner utility is doing then you should NOT use it. Registry cleaners should be used only as a convenience, not as a replacement for expertise. You should already know how to edit the registry, follow the dependency chains, and determine invalid entries, especially after uninstalls. The cleaner utility merely helps you do it more easily. It should prompt you as to what changes it will make and YOU are the ultimate authority in deciding to allow the change. However, most users of registry cleaners haven't a clue how to maintain the registry and blindly let the registry cleaner do whatever it thinks it should do. I haven't found a single registry cleaner that won't screw up by making changes that are inappropriate. For example, all of them will list a certain set of registry keys as orphans (what they point to doesn't exist) but then those entries are not valid under a normal load of Windows and are there only valid when booted to run CheckIt. Unless YOU know whether a registry key and/or its data items are valid then you won't know if what the registry cleaner does is correct. http://snipurl.com/sfma Boobs that play around with TNT (and the registry) deserve what they get. They are putzing around with a critical set of system files. In fact, if your presumption is correct that a later version of Registry Mechanic fixed a problem that an earlier version could not, you have proven that the use of such registry cleaners is fraught with disaster by those incompetent to maintain the registry themselves. If you are going to play around with the registry, stop relying solely on cleaner utilities and learn something of it yourself; otherwise, do not screw around with the registry whether you do it or you have some limited expertise software do it. Did you ever let CHKDSK complete? Did it complete without errors? That is, did you ever let Windows clear the dirty bit on the hard drive? If it kept getting reset then perhaps you have a bad drive. Have you checked if your hard drive maker has a diagnostic utility on their web site? You may even be able to use diagnostic tools from other drive makers, like Western Digital. I used to have SpinRite but lost it in a move so all I have left is CheckIt. Getting the Registry Mechanic to mask the problem doesn't solve the problem. It can take several passes of CHKDSK (with the /R switch) to thoroughly test a hard drive and discover all the weak spots. It is allowed multiple retries so it can show sectors as good when they are marginal (i.e., if all tests fail except the last one then the sector is still noted as okay). Note: Problems with the registry or file system for a particular OS are off-topic to this *hardware* group. Test your hardware outside of the OS to determine if it is okay. CHKDSK does some hardware testing but it is minimal and too forgiving. |
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"Bob" wrote in message
... Back in February 2006, I posted the following: +++ Almost every time I reboot my Win2K/SP4 system, CHKDSK runs because Win2K detected a "corrupt ntfs filesystem" on the boot disk. Every once in a while I get a BSOD instead, in which case I have to move the bad disk to D: and run CHKDSK manually from inside Win2K. [snip] +++ Posters on this forum made several suggestions which unfortunately did not stop the problem. Then one day the problem went away for good - I have never had a CHKDSK run on me or did I get a BSOD either at reboot since. So what did I do that fixed this problem? The only thing I can think of was I ran the latest version of Registry Mechanic. It is extensively updated from previous versions and it must have found something that was causing the CHKDSK/BSOD problem, probably indirectly because most of the time there were no NTFS errors. I have no idea what was in the registry that was causing this problem, only that it is gone for good. -- "It's impossible to obtain a conviction for sodomy from an English jury. Half of them don't believe that it can physically be done, and the other half are doing it." --Winston Churchill There is what is called a dirty bit and this has been known not to reset right after a chkdsk is initiated for the system drive. Regmechanic probably set that bit back to zero. The BSOD is probably something else. When it happens next you should see it in the Event Viewer ot just take the time and wtite down the first two codes which is entry of why it happened. I can tell you from that why just not what caused it. Almost always a bad driver on the system. -- George Hester _________________________________ |
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On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:53:37 GMT, "Todd"
wrote: There is a registry setting that if it gets set will cause the system to think that you have had a disk problem, but that will not get reset when you run CHKDSK. I read about it in a newsgroup, possibly this one. Maybe you can find it if you google. I would not know what specifically to look for. The problem did not happen everytime. And I could not figure out what triggered it other than it only happened when I waited overnight to reboot. And then there were the BSODs. When I remounted the bad disk as D: and ran CHKDSK on it, there were errors all over the place. Something tore up the file system. -- Stop Repeat Offenders! Don't Re-elect Them! |
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On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:03:32 -0500, "Vanguard"
wrote: If YOU don't know what the registry cleaner utility is doing then you should NOT use it. I don't know what Windows is doing - should I not run it too? -- Stop Repeat Offenders! Don't Re-elect Them! |
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:54:33 GMT, "George Hester"
wrote: There is what is called a dirty bit and this has been known not to reset right after a chkdsk is initiated for the system drive. The CHKDSK problem occurred seemingly at random, but only if I rebooted overnight. The BSOD is probably something else. In that case the filesystem was wrecked. When it happens next you should see it in the Event Viewer ot just take the time and wtite down the first two codes which is entry of why it happened. I can tell you from that why just not what caused it. Almost always a bad driver on the system. I always looked at EV and all it ever said was "corrupt ntfs volume". I did not write down the codes. If it ever happens again, how can I use the codes to figure out what happened? -- Stop Repeat Offenders! Don't Re-elect Them! |
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"Bob" wrote in message
... On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:03:32 -0500, "Vanguard" wrote: If YOU don't know what the registry cleaner utility is doing then you should NOT use it. I don't know what Windows is doing - should I not run it too? Do you go replacing the camshaft in your car when you haven't a clue how to do the job? Does that stop you from *using* your car? Do you know how to reposition the yoke in a CRT tube to correct alignment that is outside the electrically adjustable circuits? Does that stop you from *using* your television? If you don't understand the tweaks for the OS or its registry then don't go monkeying around with them. Just *use* the OS, like you use your car and your television. If Registry Mechanic doesn't prompt before making each change to let YOU authorize that change, it is a very hazardous program. If it prompts you but you haven't a clue regarding the change that it proposes, you haven't a clue if it should make that change or not. It should ask YOU whether or not it should make the change but you don't know anything about the registry, yeah, like that isn't a formula for disaster. When was the last time you used a hex editor to change the bytes in an executable program? If you didn't know what you were doing, would you really be surprised when the program didn't work anymore? If you don't know what you are doing, expect disaster (and so plan on it happening). Maybe the host you are playing with is a test host and you don't care when you screw it up because you are using it to self-train. However, if you are putzing around with your one and only computer or it is a critical or important host, plan on outages from your monkeying around with it and save disk/partition images so you can recover from your user-induced screw ups. No, I don't know everything about Windows and that's why I plan for disaster recovery when I screw up my host. If I am unsure about the registry changes that I intend to make, I make a backup of the registry or, at least, the keys that I am changing. I "play" with my home computer because I can afford the time for the outage and of having to recover. So go ahead and putz around with the registry and even delegate that responsibility to some limited expertise software if you don't mind the risk of having to recover afterward (and actually have a means to recover). I'm not saying to not use registry cleaners. I'm saying that YOU are the ultimate authority in allowing the changes that the registry cleaner proposes. If you don't understand the change, how do you know the cleaner is making a correct change? If the registry cleaner never prompts you on what changes it intends to make (or doesn't permit a mode where it prompts you), get rid of that hazardous software. Most will provide a backup so you can reverse the last changes that you made using their software; however, if the change crashes the OS, prevents executables from loading, or otherwise interferes with the registry cleaner then you have no means to recover from YOUR mistake in what actions you permitted the registry cleaner to commit and why you need a disaster recovery plan when using registry cleaners. Yeah, I realize that when most users say their system is ****ed up and you ask them about backups that the typical response is they look like deer caught in headlights at night when crossing the road. If you are going to use registry cleaners, any of them, plan an escape route. If you don't understand the changes that it proposes, don't permit the changes. If you let the registry tweaker make changes automatically (i.e., without user intervention), figure on the same odds as with Russian roulette regarding the stability of your OS or applications. |
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"kony" wrote in message
... It would have been useful to know exactly what the problem was though... Actually Bob could go into Registry Mechanic to see the backup it made. Presumably if it is a decent cleanup tool, it will record what were the settings or values before it made changes (so you can use the cleanup tool to undo its changes). I don't use it but Bob could look in the program to see if it tell him what changes were made. If it just does a blind and automatic restore to that backup, that's as stupid as doing a blind automatic cleanup. You may only want to restore some of the changed settings, not all of them. |
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