Print server et macosX

Bonjour,

I try tu use a Lexmark Optra T with macosX.

This sytem cannot use "normally" this printer so I test a print server
betwen the UC and the printer. It is an AXIS 5400+

The IP adresse given by the test page obtained by the printer under
orders of the print server is 10.3.114.45, the first problem is that
macosX doesn't admit it when I give it to add this new printer (with
protocol LPD), a message is returned :
"Adresse invalide ou incomplete"

I may neglect this alert but then if I send pings, no one is recieved :
--- 10.3.114.45 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss

Someone here can understand where is the problem ?

Is my way wrong and what other solution ?

Merci beaucoup

Alain

Alain191 wrote:
Bonjour,

I try tu use a Lexmark Optra T with macosX.

This sytem cannot use "normally" this printer so I test a print server
betwen the UC and the printer. It is an AXIS 5400+

The IP adresse given by the test page obtained by the printer under
orders of the print server is 10.3.114.45, the first problem is that
macosX doesn't admit it when I give it to add this new printer (with
protocol LPD), a message is returned :
"Adresse invalide ou incomplete"

I may neglect this alert but then if I send pings, no one is recieved :
--- 10.3.114.45 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss

Someone here can understand where is the problem ?

Printer connected directly to computer? Then you need a crossover
Ethernet cable. But you also usually need the printer and computer to
be in the same network (as in IP address and netmask) or have something
between that will send packets to the right place.

ICMP packets are sometimes disabled or blocked in a firewall in a
misguided attempt at security, and that could also explain why pings
aren't returning.

If this doesn't solve your problem, please provide details on how the
printer and computer are connected, switches or routers, IP addresses
and netmasks.

--
Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota * USA

Warren Block wrote:

Alain191 wrote:
Bonjour,

I try tu use a Lexmark Optra T with macosX.

This sytem cannot use "normally" this printer so I test a print server
betwen the UC and the printer. It is an AXIS 5400+

The IP adresse given by the test page obtained by the printer under
orders of the print server is 10.3.114.45, the first problem is that
macosX doesn't admit it when I give it to add this new printer (with
protocol LPD), a message is returned :
"Adresse invalide ou incomplete"

I may neglect this alert but then if I send pings, no one is recieved :
--- 10.3.114.45 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss

Someone here can understand where is the problem ?

Thank you for your answer,

Printer connected directly to computer?

Yes, to avoid difficulties...

Then you need a crossover
Ethernet cable.

I made theses expérimentations with a cable wich works properly with an
other printer,

But you also usually need the printer and computer to
be in the same network (as in IP address and netmask) or have something
between that will send packets to the right place.

I don't know about netmask but I'll learn,

ICMP packets are sometimes disabled or blocked in a firewall in a
misguided attempt at security, and that could also explain why pings
aren't returning.

I'm not sure this happens here because an other printer works without
troubles, an HP 8150 witn a JetDirect615n internal server, without any
change in the system configuration,

If this doesn't solve your problem, please provide details on how the
printer and computer are connected, switches or routers, IP addresses
and netmasks.

The connection is direct, without swich or router, during theses tests I
disconect my adsl modem, I use the IP adress which is given by the
configuration page of the printer and I have to learn about netmask...
this is not my domain and I understand that I have to learn it.

The test page printed by the Optra under Axix direction gives :
++++++begining of quote
Power-on time : 0 days, 0 hours, 3 minutes
Ethernet Auto Negotiation: Link down
Node address: 00:40:8C:58:01:60

TCP/IP: enabled
Internet address Default router Net mask
10.3.114.45 automatic router sensing

WINS: enabled
Name: AXIS580160
Status: Not Registered

DNS: enabled
Name: AXIS580160
Status: Not Registered

NetWare : enabled
PSERVER (Bindery) status
Print server name: AXIS580160
Connected to: Status:
none connected

PSERVER (NDS) statuts
Preferred server: not configured
Print server name: not configured
Connected to: Status:
none connected

NPRINTER status
Connected to: Slot: Status:
none connected

Microsoft Networks and LAN Server/LAN Manager: enabled
Printer name: AXIS580160.LPT1

Apple Ethertalk: enabled
Printer name Printer type Mode
AXIS580160_LPT1 LaserWriter Printer
AXIS580160_2
++++++end of quote

Note : 580160 are the last six characters of the serial number of the
Axix print server


Thank you for your help.

Alain

Alain191 wrote:
Warren Block wrote:
Alain191 wrote:
Bonjour,

I try tu use a Lexmark Optra T with macosX.
....
I may neglect this alert but then if I send pings, no one is recieved :
--- 10.3.114.45 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss

Printer connected directly to computer?

Yes, to avoid difficulties...

Then you need a crossover Ethernet cable.

I made theses expérimentations with a cable wich works properly with an
other printer,

That almost has to be a crossover (unless the other printer is
auto-crossover or configured that way). Still, the cable should be
clearly marked. (One way to tell: look at the colored wires in the
clear parts of the connectors. On a normal cable, the wires will be in
the same order on both connectors. On a crossover cable, the wires will
be in different orders.)

I'm not sure this happens here because an other printer works without
troubles, an HP 8150 witn a JetDirect615n internal server, without any
change in the system configuration,

That's good, because it can tell you what you need to know about
configuring the Lexmark. Print a self-test page on the HP and find the
IP address and netmask.

Also, find the IP address and netmask of your computer. How to do that
depends on the operating system.

If this doesn't solve your problem, please provide details on how the
printer and computer are connected, switches or routers, IP addresses
and netmasks.

The connection is direct, without swich or router, during theses tests I
disconect my adsl modem, I use the IP adress which is given by the
configuration page of the printer and I have to learn about netmask...
this is not my domain and I understand that I have to learn it.

The test page printed by the Optra under Axix direction gives :
++++++begining of quote
Power-on time : 0 days, 0 hours, 3 minutes
Ethernet Auto Negotiation: Link down

That says your cable is not talking.

Node address: 00:40:8C:58:01:60

TCP/IP: enabled
Internet address Default router Net mask
10.3.114.45 automatic router sensing

That's an odd IP address, and the netmask isn't shown. Is this a used
printer?

Finally, an example:

Computer: 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0
crossover cable to printer
Printer: 192.168.1.250 netmask 255.255.255.0

--
Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota * USA

Warren Block wrote:
Alain191 wrote:

I made theses expérimentations with a cable wich works properly with an
other printer,

That almost has to be a crossover (unless the other printer is
auto-crossover or configured that way).

Or the computer Ethernet port is auto MDI-X, which it apparently is on
many recent Macs.

--
Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota * USA

Warren Block wrote:
Alain191 wrote:

I made theses expérimentations with a cable wich works properly with an
other printer,

That almost has to be a crossover (unless the other printer is
auto-crossover or configured that way). Still, the cable should be
clearly marked. (One way to tell: look at the colored wires in the
clear parts of the connectors. On a normal cable, the wires will be in
the same order on both connectors. On a crossover cable, the wires will
be in different orders.)

It is a straignt cable.

I'm not sure this happens here because an other printer works without
troubles, an HP 8150 witn a JetDirect615n internal server, without any
change in the system configuration,

That's good, because it can tell you what you need to know about
configuring the Lexmark. Print a self-test page on the HP and find the
IP address and netmask.

Here is the EIO 1 - Page JetDirect
+++ begin of quote
--Configuration HP JetDirect--
Etat: Carte E/S prete
Numero de Modele: J5067A
Adresse materiel: 0001E6B19ABC
Vers.micrologiciel: R.25.09
LAA: 0001E6B19ABC
Configuration port: 100TX FULL
Auto-negociation: Oui
ID du fabricant: 22014344902201
Date de fabrication: 11/2003

--Parametres de securite--
Mot de passe Admi. Non specifie
Web securise: HTTPS facultatif
Date expiration certif: 2008-11-01 00:00
Version de SNMP: 1/2
Def non appart SNMP: Non specifie
Liste d'acces: Non specifie

--Statistiques reseau--
Total des paquets reçus: 468
Paquets Unicast reçus: 408
Mauvais paquets reçus: 0
Erreurs trame reçus: 0
Total des paquets transmis: 446
Paquets intransmissibles: 0
Collisions: 0
Collisions tardives: 0

---TCP/IP---
Nom d'Hote: NPIB19ABC
Adresse IP: 192.168.1.151
Masque de sous-reseau: 255.255.255.0
Passerelle par defaut: 192.168.1.1
Config. par: Manuelle
Serveur BOOTP/DHCP: Non specifie
Serveur TFTP: Non specifie
Fichier de configuration: Non specifie
Nom de domaine: Non specifie
Server DNS: 212.27.54.252
Server WINS: Non specifie
Delai d'inactivite: 270 sec
URL de Web JetAdmin: Non specifie

Nom de service mDNS:
HP LaserJet 8150 Series (0001E6B19ABC)

There are also others headings :
--IPX/SPX--
--Novell/Netware--
--Apple Talk--
--DLC/LLC--

If you need it, I'll give you these details.

Also, find the IP address and netmask of your computer. How to do that
depends on the operating system.

It is macOSX 10.6.3

May be this image is good for you :
http://cjoint.com/?ftaOSMuVWs

Also there is :
ID Ethernet : 00:1f:f3:45:e3:f7

If this doesn't solve your problem, please provide details on how the
printer and computer are connected, switches or routers, IP addresses
and netmasks.

The connection is direct, without swich or router, during theses tests I
disconect my adsl modem, I use the IP adress which is given by the
configuration page of the printer and I have to learn about netmask...
this is not my domain and I understand that I have to learn it.

The test page printed by the Optra under Axix direction gives :
++++++begining of quote
Power-on time : 0 days, 0 hours, 3 minutes
Ethernet Auto Negotiation: Link down

That says your cable is not talking.

Node address: 00:40:8C:58:01:60

TCP/IP: enabled
Internet address Default router Net mask
10.3.114.45 automatic router sensing

That's an odd IP address, and the netmask isn't shown. Is this a used
printer?

Finally, an example:

Computer: 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0
crossover cable to printer
Printer: 192.168.1.250 netmask 255.255.255.0

If you need others informations, I'll give you.

Thanks a lot.

Alain

Warren Block wrote:

Warren Block wrote:
Alain191 wrote:

I made theses expérimentations with a cable wich works properly with an
other printer,

That almost has to be a crossover (unless the other printer is
auto-crossover or configured that way).

Or the computer Ethernet port is auto MDI-X, which it apparently is on
many recent Macs.

Infos about the ports of my UC :
http://cjoint.com/?ftaXqrGK3D

Alain

Alain191 wrote:

Here is the EIO 1 - Page JetDirect
+++ begin of quote
....
---TCP/IP---
Nom d'Hote: NPIB19ABC
Adresse IP: 192.168.1.151
Masque de sous-reseau: 255.255.255.0
Passerelle par defaut: 192.168.1.1
Config. par: Manuelle

Your computer address is a Proxad address, which won't apply when the
computer isn't hooked to your ISP. Maybe Macs default to 192.168.1.x
when no DHCP server is found.

The JetDirect, which works, is manually configured to 192.168.1.151.

Based on that, configure your Lexmark to 192.168.1.172 with a netmask of
255.255.255.0. The .172 is arbitrary, but since you only have three
devices we can be pretty sure it won't already be used.

--
Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota * USA

Warren Block wrote:

Alain191 wrote:

Here is the EIO 1 - Page JetDirect
+++ begin of quote
...
---TCP/IP---
Nom d'Hote: NPIB19ABC
Adresse IP: 192.168.1.151
Masque de sous-reseau: 255.255.255.0
Passerelle par defaut: 192.168.1.1
Config. par: Manuelle

Your computer address is a Proxad address, which won't apply when the
computer isn't hooked to your ISP. Maybe Macs default to 192.168.1.x
when no DHCP server is found.

The JetDirect, which works, is manually configured to 192.168.1.151.

Based on that, configure your Lexmark to 192.168.1.172 with a netmask of
255.255.255.0. The .172 is arbitrary, but since you only have three
devices we can be pretty sure it won't already be used.

When I try to print a test page, there is the same message as before :

problème réversible : l'hôte du réseau « 192.168.1.172 » est occupé ;
nouvel essai dans 5 secondes...

When I ping this address, the reply is :
ping: sendto: No route to host

For this evening, it is not good... and I vill leave hoe for few days,
I'll be back next tuesday et go on testing.

Thanks for your help.

Alain