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Print server et macosX
Bonjour,
I try tu use a Lexmark Optra T with macosX. This sytem cannot use "normally" this printer so I test a print server betwen the UC and the printer. It is an AXIS 5400+ The IP adresse given by the test page obtained by the printer under orders of the print server is 10.3.114.45, the first problem is that macosX doesn't admit it when I give it to add this new printer (with protocol LPD), a message is returned : "Adresse invalide ou incomplete" I may neglect this alert but then if I send pings, no one is recieved : --- 10.3.114.45 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss Someone here can understand where is the problem ? Is my way wrong and what other solution ? Merci beaucoup Alain |
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Alain191 wrote:
Bonjour, I try tu use a Lexmark Optra T with macosX. This sytem cannot use "normally" this printer so I test a print server betwen the UC and the printer. It is an AXIS 5400+ The IP adresse given by the test page obtained by the printer under orders of the print server is 10.3.114.45, the first problem is that macosX doesn't admit it when I give it to add this new printer (with protocol LPD), a message is returned : "Adresse invalide ou incomplete" I may neglect this alert but then if I send pings, no one is recieved : --- 10.3.114.45 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss Someone here can understand where is the problem ? Printer connected directly to computer? Then you need a crossover Ethernet cable. But you also usually need the printer and computer to be in the same network (as in IP address and netmask) or have something between that will send packets to the right place. ICMP packets are sometimes disabled or blocked in a firewall in a misguided attempt at security, and that could also explain why pings aren't returning. If this doesn't solve your problem, please provide details on how the printer and computer are connected, switches or routers, IP addresses and netmasks. -- Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota * USA |
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Print server et macosX
Warren Block wrote:
Alain191 wrote: Bonjour, I try tu use a Lexmark Optra T with macosX. This sytem cannot use "normally" this printer so I test a print server betwen the UC and the printer. It is an AXIS 5400+ The IP adresse given by the test page obtained by the printer under orders of the print server is 10.3.114.45, the first problem is that macosX doesn't admit it when I give it to add this new printer (with protocol LPD), a message is returned : "Adresse invalide ou incomplete" I may neglect this alert but then if I send pings, no one is recieved : --- 10.3.114.45 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss Someone here can understand where is the problem ? Thank you for your answer, Printer connected directly to computer? Yes, to avoid difficulties... Then you need a crossover Ethernet cable. I made theses expérimentations with a cable wich works properly with an other printer, But you also usually need the printer and computer to be in the same network (as in IP address and netmask) or have something between that will send packets to the right place. I don't know about netmask but I'll learn, ICMP packets are sometimes disabled or blocked in a firewall in a misguided attempt at security, and that could also explain why pings aren't returning. I'm not sure this happens here because an other printer works without troubles, an HP 8150 witn a JetDirect615n internal server, without any change in the system configuration, If this doesn't solve your problem, please provide details on how the printer and computer are connected, switches or routers, IP addresses and netmasks. The connection is direct, without swich or router, during theses tests I disconect my adsl modem, I use the IP adress which is given by the configuration page of the printer and I have to learn about netmask... this is not my domain and I understand that I have to learn it. The test page printed by the Optra under Axix direction gives : ++++++begining of quote Power-on time : 0 days, 0 hours, 3 minutes Ethernet Auto Negotiation: Link down Node address: 00:40:8C:58:01:60 TCP/IP: enabled Internet address Default router Net mask 10.3.114.45 automatic router sensing WINS: enabled Name: AXIS580160 Status: Not Registered DNS: enabled Name: AXIS580160 Status: Not Registered NetWare : enabled PSERVER (Bindery) status Print server name: AXIS580160 Connected to: Status: none connected PSERVER (NDS) statuts Preferred server: not configured Print server name: not configured Connected to: Status: none connected NPRINTER status Connected to: Slot: Status: none connected Microsoft Networks and LAN Server/LAN Manager: enabled Printer name: AXIS580160.LPT1 Apple Ethertalk: enabled Printer name Printer type Mode AXIS580160_LPT1 LaserWriter Printer AXIS580160_2 ++++++end of quote Note : 580160 are the last six characters of the serial number of the Axix print server Thank you for your help. Alain |
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Alain191 wrote:
Warren Block wrote: Alain191 wrote: Bonjour, I try tu use a Lexmark Optra T with macosX. .... I may neglect this alert but then if I send pings, no one is recieved : --- 10.3.114.45 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss Printer connected directly to computer? Yes, to avoid difficulties... Then you need a crossover Ethernet cable. I made theses expérimentations with a cable wich works properly with an other printer, That almost has to be a crossover (unless the other printer is auto-crossover or configured that way). Still, the cable should be clearly marked. (One way to tell: look at the colored wires in the clear parts of the connectors. On a normal cable, the wires will be in the same order on both connectors. On a crossover cable, the wires will be in different orders.) I'm not sure this happens here because an other printer works without troubles, an HP 8150 witn a JetDirect615n internal server, without any change in the system configuration, That's good, because it can tell you what you need to know about configuring the Lexmark. Print a self-test page on the HP and find the IP address and netmask. Also, find the IP address and netmask of your computer. How to do that depends on the operating system. If this doesn't solve your problem, please provide details on how the printer and computer are connected, switches or routers, IP addresses and netmasks. The connection is direct, without swich or router, during theses tests I disconect my adsl modem, I use the IP adress which is given by the configuration page of the printer and I have to learn about netmask... this is not my domain and I understand that I have to learn it. The test page printed by the Optra under Axix direction gives : ++++++begining of quote Power-on time : 0 days, 0 hours, 3 minutes Ethernet Auto Negotiation: Link down That says your cable is not talking. Node address: 00:40:8C:58:01:60 TCP/IP: enabled Internet address Default router Net mask 10.3.114.45 automatic router sensing That's an odd IP address, and the netmask isn't shown. Is this a used printer? Finally, an example: Computer: 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0 crossover cable to printer Printer: 192.168.1.250 netmask 255.255.255.0 -- Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota * USA |
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Warren Block wrote:
Alain191 wrote: I made theses expérimentations with a cable wich works properly with an other printer, That almost has to be a crossover (unless the other printer is auto-crossover or configured that way). Or the computer Ethernet port is auto MDI-X, which it apparently is on many recent Macs. -- Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota * USA |
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Warren Block wrote:
Alain191 wrote: I made theses expérimentations with a cable wich works properly with an other printer, That almost has to be a crossover (unless the other printer is auto-crossover or configured that way). Still, the cable should be clearly marked. (One way to tell: look at the colored wires in the clear parts of the connectors. On a normal cable, the wires will be in the same order on both connectors. On a crossover cable, the wires will be in different orders.) It is a straignt cable. I'm not sure this happens here because an other printer works without troubles, an HP 8150 witn a JetDirect615n internal server, without any change in the system configuration, That's good, because it can tell you what you need to know about configuring the Lexmark. Print a self-test page on the HP and find the IP address and netmask. Here is the EIO 1 - Page JetDirect +++ begin of quote --Configuration HP JetDirect-- Etat: Carte E/S prete Numero de Modele: J5067A Adresse materiel: 0001E6B19ABC Vers.micrologiciel: R.25.09 LAA: 0001E6B19ABC Configuration port: 100TX FULL Auto-negociation: Oui ID du fabricant: 22014344902201 Date de fabrication: 11/2003 --Parametres de securite-- Mot de passe Admi. Non specifie Web securise: HTTPS facultatif Date expiration certif: 2008-11-01 00:00 Version de SNMP: 1/2 Def non appart SNMP: Non specifie Liste d'acces: Non specifie --Statistiques reseau-- Total des paquets reçus: 468 Paquets Unicast reçus: 408 Mauvais paquets reçus: 0 Erreurs trame reçus: 0 Total des paquets transmis: 446 Paquets intransmissibles: 0 Collisions: 0 Collisions tardives: 0 ---TCP/IP--- Nom d'Hote: NPIB19ABC Adresse IP: 192.168.1.151 Masque de sous-reseau: 255.255.255.0 Passerelle par defaut: 192.168.1.1 Config. par: Manuelle Serveur BOOTP/DHCP: Non specifie Serveur TFTP: Non specifie Fichier de configuration: Non specifie Nom de domaine: Non specifie Server DNS: 212.27.54.252 Server WINS: Non specifie Delai d'inactivite: 270 sec URL de Web JetAdmin: Non specifie Nom de service mDNS: HP LaserJet 8150 Series (0001E6B19ABC) There are also others headings : --IPX/SPX-- --Novell/Netware-- --Apple Talk-- --DLC/LLC-- If you need it, I'll give you these details. Also, find the IP address and netmask of your computer. How to do that depends on the operating system. It is macOSX 10.6.3 May be this image is good for you : http://cjoint.com/?ftaOSMuVWs Also there is : ID Ethernet : 00:1f:f3:45:e3:f7 If this doesn't solve your problem, please provide details on how the printer and computer are connected, switches or routers, IP addresses and netmasks. The connection is direct, without swich or router, during theses tests I disconect my adsl modem, I use the IP adress which is given by the configuration page of the printer and I have to learn about netmask... this is not my domain and I understand that I have to learn it. The test page printed by the Optra under Axix direction gives : ++++++begining of quote Power-on time : 0 days, 0 hours, 3 minutes Ethernet Auto Negotiation: Link down That says your cable is not talking. Node address: 00:40:8C:58:01:60 TCP/IP: enabled Internet address Default router Net mask 10.3.114.45 automatic router sensing That's an odd IP address, and the netmask isn't shown. Is this a used printer? Finally, an example: Computer: 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0 crossover cable to printer Printer: 192.168.1.250 netmask 255.255.255.0 If you need others informations, I'll give you. Thanks a lot. Alain |
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Print server et macosX
Warren Block wrote:
Warren Block wrote: Alain191 wrote: I made theses expérimentations with a cable wich works properly with an other printer, That almost has to be a crossover (unless the other printer is auto-crossover or configured that way). Or the computer Ethernet port is auto MDI-X, which it apparently is on many recent Macs. Infos about the ports of my UC : http://cjoint.com/?ftaXqrGK3D Alain |
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Print server et macosX
Alain191 wrote:
Here is the EIO 1 - Page JetDirect +++ begin of quote .... ---TCP/IP--- Nom d'Hote: NPIB19ABC Adresse IP: 192.168.1.151 Masque de sous-reseau: 255.255.255.0 Passerelle par defaut: 192.168.1.1 Config. par: Manuelle Your computer address is a Proxad address, which won't apply when the computer isn't hooked to your ISP. Maybe Macs default to 192.168.1.x when no DHCP server is found. The JetDirect, which works, is manually configured to 192.168.1.151. Based on that, configure your Lexmark to 192.168.1.172 with a netmask of 255.255.255.0. The .172 is arbitrary, but since you only have three devices we can be pretty sure it won't already be used. -- Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota * USA |
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Print server et macosX
Warren Block wrote:
Alain191 wrote: Here is the EIO 1 - Page JetDirect +++ begin of quote ... ---TCP/IP--- Nom d'Hote: NPIB19ABC Adresse IP: 192.168.1.151 Masque de sous-reseau: 255.255.255.0 Passerelle par defaut: 192.168.1.1 Config. par: Manuelle Your computer address is a Proxad address, which won't apply when the computer isn't hooked to your ISP. Maybe Macs default to 192.168.1.x when no DHCP server is found. The JetDirect, which works, is manually configured to 192.168.1.151. Based on that, configure your Lexmark to 192.168.1.172 with a netmask of 255.255.255.0. The .172 is arbitrary, but since you only have three devices we can be pretty sure it won't already be used. When I try to print a test page, there is the same message as before : problème réversible : l'hôte du réseau « 192.168.1.172 » est occupé ; nouvel essai dans 5 secondes... When I ping this address, the reply is : ping: sendto: No route to host For this evening, it is not good... and I vill leave hoe for few days, I'll be back next tuesday et go on testing. Thanks for your help. Alain |
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