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figures nm your an idiot.. you live in a fantasy world....with
voodoo benchmarks and twisted statistics...go away jerome "JK" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: is it more expensive that current 32 bit processors? AMD sells cheaper CPUs I am not saying that they don't. so why compare to a Intel chip? Okay. I could compare the Athlon 64 to the state of the art 32 bit cpu, the Sempron 3100+, which is basically an Athlon 64 with half the L2 cache of the Athlon 64 and the 64 bit functions disabled. Since the Sempron 3100+ is so close in price to an Athlon 64 2800+ or 3000+, one may as well get the Athlon 64. compare it to a state o the art 32bit AMD cpu. My point is why are you drumming a 64 bit more expensive, proven to have its BORKS What? , solution to run 32bit applications? It is a great processor for running 32 bit software. You could get BORKED at the git go, as your 400$ video card won't run under beta64. What? But don't worry, shelve it till next year What? One can run it now in 32 bit mode if they have a problem running it under the beta Windows X64. when YOU guarantee there will be better drivers. "JK" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: man forget it.......you fail to see my point What is your point? let's make specific comparisons, not just blanket statements such as 64 bits is expensive, especially when that really isn't the case. and at this point its more like a phishing expedition. Of course things get better of course things get cheaper when the newness wears off of course you can buy now deal with the headaches. Talk about 'bang' and your willing to pay more NOW An Athlon 64 3000+(socket 754) isn't more expensive than a Pentium 4 2.8 ghz though. to FUTURE PROOF for later, for something that has no variety NOW, but will GET BETTER next year???????????????????????/ "JK" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: Panorama Factory brand spanking new....so now RUN out and by all new software.. Can you show me benchmarks for the Pentium 4 running video editing software that is a few years old compared to how an Athlon 64 runs it? Why is it okay to test the Pentium 4 using using new software, but not to test an Athlon 64 running new software? ,,, yes there is a main stream, piece of software. What did they do go through a list of editors till they found one that fit there scheme or maybe contacted the programmer and had it tweaked. And is it the software making the microsecond differences or the CPU64bit? PERCENTS ARE A FUNNY THING...used many times to cloud the issues. what was the resolution of the output? /cut and paste/ Conclusions and things that go bork The benchmarks were executed on the bare operating systems. 64-bit drivers are still in beta and not without problems. The clean install of build 1069 of the Windows XP 64-bit evaluation OS produced the predictably better results. The introduction of the nVIDIA NForce3 4.34a 64-bit chipset drivers threw the benchmark into a tailspin producing consistently poor results. The 64-bit road will be good to walk down but it's still under construction; nVIDIA left a few potholes. In other words expect the 64 bit performance to be even better once better drivers are available. Panorama Factory demonstrates the advantages in speed and ability of an application requiring large memory chunks in a 64-bit environment versus a 32-bit environment. 64-bit computing will bring about speed increases to a number of applications. It's just how much and with what application is yet to be fully realized. The other exciting promise is the ability to address more memory. Bigger chunks of data could mean better games or increasingly sophisticated multimedia tools. The lesson has been taught and class is dismissed. 64-bit means big bites of big data. It's do more and do more right now. Because of the increase in addressable memory a program that requires larger chunks of memory to complete a task is faster in the 64-bit world; AMD's world. forever? complete delusional thinking...very naive either intentionally or they were dropped on their head at birth. That review is just a taste of things to come. Even when Intel drops the price on its 64 bit Pentium 4, a version of the P4 with integrated memory controllers might not be available for a very long time. Take a look at this article. http://www.anandtech.com/linux/showdoc.aspx?i=2163&p=1 "JK" wrote in message ... How about 64 bit image editing? This application runs 25% faster using the 64 bit version rather than the 32 bit version on an Athlon 64. http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=257&p=2 With some larger files, using the 32 bit version and a 32 bit OS, the task can't even run. http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=257&p=1 JAD wrote: LOL your very selective on what you chose to comment on... That will probably change within 6-9 months with the release of the 64 bit version of Windows XP. My opinion on this is that Microsoft probably delayed 64 bit Windows XP to give them enough time to port many applications to 64 bit. The Windows 64 bit introduction will imo be much more successful if there is plenty of 64 bit software available to go along with it. Hey YO!!!! anybody in there....that is merely AN OS,, whoopee so what? play 64 bit solitaire? type a 64 bit letter? "JK" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: Oh! I know! 64-bit software is a pipe dream! It'll never happen! Very funny. Large amounts of 64 bit X86-64 software is in development now. yeah LOL reminds me of HDTV...........get it? just now and its been drummed for 10 years HDTV sets are finally about to become affordable for the average person. Some are predicting 32" lcd tv prices dropping to as low as $1,200 within 2005. While $1,200 would still be considered a high price for a television by many people, it is still affordable for large numbers of people, while around $4,000 is totally out of the question for most people. ! beta OS or linux....WOW!!!!! sounds like fun....? That will probably change within 6-9 months with the release of the 64 bit version of Windows XP. My opinion on this is that Microsoft probably delayed 64 bit Windows XP to give them enough time to port many applications to 64 bit. The Windows 64 bit introduction will imo be much more successful if there is plenty of 64 bit software available to go along with it. Most people buy computers to last 2 to 5 years. what does that have to do with that statement? Do you think that 64bit will still be thought of as NEW in 3 years? You guys are saying that the price of the 64 bit chips will remain the same for three years? So buy NOW with limited stuff to do There is plenty of 32 bit bit software that runs great on an Athlon 64 or Opteron. The Athlon 64 is already inexpensive. An Athlon 64(socket 754) at around $150 is around the same price as a Pentium 4 2.8 ghz which is only 32 bits. , except test for filthy rich companies, limited amounts of everything else, at a higher price, OR wait until the prices fall and there is mainstream everything to go with it? "Matt" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: Now let's see ... if a 64-bit system costs no more than a 32-bit system ... which should I buy ... hmmm ... I just don't know ... let me get back to you on that ... Oh! I know! 64-bit software is a pipe dream! It'll never happen! |
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