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A64 X2 4600+ vs. C2D E4300
Hi,
few months back I wanted to buy a new computer. Since you convinced me not to buy any cheap (like celeron D or sempron) system I waited to get more cash for something better. Well... now I can afford something better. I was thinking about getting cheap C2D system, but few days ago I've read that E4300 was as good as X2 4200+. Does it mean that X2 4600+ is faster than E4300? I'm asking because both CPUs cost more or less the same (X2 tend to be a little cheaper) while motherboards for Intel systems seem to cost more than mbs for AMD systems. Obvious question is - what do I need this computer for? Well... OS will be XP SP2 (no vista) and maybe some freebsd. I'll run many apps at the same time so good multitasking would be nice. I'm not going to play games so integrated graphics would be enough for me. Still I'd like a PCI-E slot in case I changed my mind. I was thinking about buying E4300, 1gb ddr2 800mhz, and some mb based on 965G/965Q chipset. I considered Intel BLKDQ965GFEKR, Gigabyte 965GM-DS2, Gigabyte 965GM-S2. As for mb for AMD system I considered Asus M2N-MX, Asus M2N-VM DH, Asus M2NPV-VM. I will never use vista. I will not overclock. I will never go SLI/Crossfire. So should I go for E4300 or X2 4600+? Or maybe some other cpu (if it's faster than X2 3800+ and P4 630 it's enough)? As for motherboard - anything with nice integrated graphics, 4 DDR2 800mhz slots (& 4gb ram support), pci-e slot is okay. I don't need any fancy features (like overclocking). One more thing - would Chieftec GPS-350EB-101A be good enough to power this system? regards t47 |
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A64 X2 4600+ vs. C2D E4300
On Fri, 11 May 2007 21:09:28 +0200, Towarzysz 47
wrote: I was thinking about buying E4300, 1gb ddr2 800mhz, and some mb based on 965G/965Q chipset. I considered Intel BLKDQ965GFEKR, Gigabyte 965GM-DS2, Gigabyte 965GM-S2. Sounds good, but see if the boards have reasonable drivers for your alternative (non-windows) operating system(s). One more thing - would Chieftec GPS-350EB-101A be good enough to power this system? Since you're using integrated video it might be sufficient but ideally you'd want something a bit larger capacity or single 12V rail with at least 18A or at least that 18A on one of multiple 12V rails. Otherwise it's total 12V capacity may be lower sustainable capacity than would be suggested additively with the Chieftec and it's 10+15A @ 12V ratings 25A If it just happened to come with a case you want, you might as well try it rather than having it go to waste. |
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A64 X2 4600+ vs. C2D E4300
kony wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2007 21:09:28 +0200, Towarzysz 47 wrote: I was thinking about buying E4300, 1gb ddr2 800mhz, and some mb based on 965G/965Q chipset. I considered Intel BLKDQ965GFEKR, Gigabyte 965GM-DS2, Gigabyte 965GM-S2. Sounds good, but see if the boards have reasonable drivers for your alternative (non-windows) operating system(s). Does it mean it's better than X2 4600+ system? I've seen FreeBSD running on very "weird" and rare hardware so I believe it'll get along with those boards just fine. But I'll check before I buy just to be on the safe side. regards t47 |
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A64 X2 4600+ vs. C2D E4300
On Sat, 12 May 2007 00:13:03 +0200, Towarzysz 47
wrote: kony wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2007 21:09:28 +0200, Towarzysz 47 wrote: I was thinking about buying E4300, 1gb ddr2 800mhz, and some mb based on 965G/965Q chipset. I considered Intel BLKDQ965GFEKR, Gigabyte 965GM-DS2, Gigabyte 965GM-S2. Sounds good, but see if the boards have reasonable drivers for your alternative (non-windows) operating system(s). Does it mean it's better than X2 4600+ system? Flip a coin? The X2 4600 is a little stronger at legacy apps and gaming, but they're pretty similar, if you seek some benchmarks of your most demanding apps/versions it will be a better comparison, though IIRC the X2 4600 might produce a couple dozen watts more heat at full load Where the E4300 really shines is overclocking, but you'd already covered that. |
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A64 X2 4600+ vs. C2D E4300
On Sat, 12 May 2007 00:13:03 +0200
Towarzysz 47 wrote: kony wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2007 21:09:28 +0200, Towarzysz 47 wrote: I was thinking about buying E4300, 1gb ddr2 800mhz, and some mb based on 965G/965Q chipset. I considered Intel BLKDQ965GFEKR, Gigabyte 965GM-DS2, Gigabyte 965GM-S2. Sounds good, but see if the boards have reasonable drivers for your alternative (non-windows) operating system(s). Does it mean it's better than X2 4600+ system? I've seen FreeBSD running on very "weird" and rare hardware so I believe it'll get along with those boards just fine. But I'll check before I buy just to be on the safe side. regards t47 I'm using the Intel C2D E6320 with the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p3. Very easy to install and use. Get a good quality power supply such as the Corsair CMPSU-520HX/620HX. |
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A64 X2 4600+ vs. C2D E4300
kony wrote:
Flip a coin? The X2 4600 is a little stronger at legacy apps and gaming, but they're pretty similar, if you seek some benchmarks of your most demanding apps/versions it will be a better comparison, though IIRC the X2 4600 might produce a couple dozen watts more heat at full load. I checked again and it appears that this X2 4600+ is actually an energy efficient version (65W). Does it mean that it produces less watts than E4300? I hope it's performance is the same as the standard version. I also looked for some mb for X2 and found Asus M2NPV-VM with NVIDIA GeForce 6150 + nForce 430 chipset. It looks great on paper and had some good reviews so I guess it'd be ok. And one more thing - the memory. I don't really know anything about the timings. I mean is Patriot much better than OCZ, will I see the difference? OCZ 1GB (2x512MB) PC800 CL4 Platinum 4-5-4-15 Patriot 1GB (2x512MB) PC800 CL4 LLK 4-4-4-12 regards t47 |
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A64 X2 4600+ vs. C2D E4300
On Sat, 12 May 2007 19:11:27 +0200, Towarzysz 47
wrote: kony wrote: Flip a coin? The X2 4600 is a little stronger at legacy apps and gaming, but they're pretty similar, if you seek some benchmarks of your most demanding apps/versions it will be a better comparison, though IIRC the X2 4600 might produce a couple dozen watts more heat at full load. I checked again and it appears that this X2 4600+ is actually an energy efficient version (65W). Does it mean that it produces less watts than E4300? I hope it's performance is the same as the standard version. It means the two are close enough it isn't a factor. I also looked for some mb for X2 and found Asus M2NPV-VM with NVIDIA GeForce 6150 + nForce 430 chipset. It looks great on paper and had some good reviews so I guess it'd be ok. And one more thing - the memory. I don't really know anything about the timings. I mean is Patriot much better than OCZ, will I see the difference? OCZ 1GB (2x512MB) PC800 CL4 Platinum 4-5-4-15 Patriot 1GB (2x512MB) PC800 CL4 LLK 4-4-4-12 regards t47 Many brands sell different ranked product based on capable speed and timings. Either brand should work at the specs it claims. Spot pricing can vary the cost but generally it is just more expensive for the faster modules (although also an additional overhead for certain brand names). You won't realize much difference between these two alternative pairs of modules. |
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