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Creating a low-power machine
In Rob Perkins:
[Snip...] Plus, y'know, I need an excuse to play with Linux... Better clear this entire concept with the wife, first... -- Regards, Weird (Harold Stevens) * IMPORTANT EMAIL INFO FOLLOWS * Pardon any bogus email addresses (wookie) in place for spambots. Really, it's (wyrd) at airmail, dotted with net. DO NOT SPAM IT. Kids jumping ship? Looking to hire an old-school type? Email me. |
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Creating a low-power machine
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Rob Perkins wrote:
Arno Wagner wrote: I have something similar running for several years now. It is a VIA mini-ITX board with a 800Mhz Via C3. Not fanless, you have to go down to 600MHz for that. Still quite fast enough for what you want. Thanks, Arno, I think that's precisely what I'm going for. Do you know of good firewall softwares which can sit on debian stable, or the linux which comes with the VIA board, and one of those master seed lists I've seen around, for white/blacklisting etc? Sorry, no. I just use netfilter to block stuff, but nothing content oriented or dynamic. BTW, no software comes with the VIA board. You have to install it yourself. Arno |
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc General Schvantzkoph wrote:
On Tue, 16 May 2006 13:34:12 -0700, Rob Perkins wrote: Arno Wagner wrote: I have something similar running for several years now. It is a VIA mini-ITX board with a 800Mhz Via C3. Not fanless, you have to go down to 600MHz for that. Still quite fast enough for what you want. Thanks, Arno, I think that's precisely what I'm going for. Do you know of good firewall softwares which can sit on debian stable, or the linux which comes with the VIA board, and one of those master seed lists I've seen around, for white/blacklisting etc? Rob Don't know anything about Debian but Fedora Core 5 installs a firewall as part of the standard install. Actually, the standard packet filter is part of the kernel. Only the admin tools need to be installed. That's the norm for all of the complete distros like FC, Mandriva, SUSE. If you want to use a Debian based distro you might want to use Ubuntu. They do a better job of keeping Ubuntu up to date and it's probably a little more user friendly then straight Debian. Depending on what you want, I agree. However debian stable is a good distro to use in a headless machine. Don't know how well Ubuntu does headless. As long as you are installing Linux on a server you should also consider putting it on your daughters machine so you can have the piece of mind of knowing that if a virus does slip though your filtering server it won't do any harm. OpenOffice, Evolution, Firefox, Mplayer and GAIM should give her everything she needs, with the exception of games, and you won't have to waste your time cleaning viruses off of her machine. I also agree to this. Arno |
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johns wrote:
Why don't you just do an "allow list" to bypass a dummy proxy in IE ? Just put it on your daughters login. That list To start with, the first step to safety is to eliminate IE. That is sometimes hard to do, so the next best thing is to have the firewall reject any external communications with IE. Then install a safer browser, such as Firefox from mozilla.org. This assumes the children are using winblows machines in the first place. If not, the festering IE sore is already healed. -- "If you want to post a followup via groups.google.com, don't use the broken "Reply" link at the bottom of the article. Click on "show options" at the top of the article, then click on the "Reply" at the bottom of the article headers." - Keith Thompson More details at: http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/ Also see http://www.safalra.com/special/googlegroupsreply/ |
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On Wed, 17 May 2006 00:35:42 +0000, John Doe wrote:
Rob Perkins wrote: The purpose of the machine is to serve as a ad/porn/hate site filter for my kids, aged 1 through 10. I want Open Source so that I can modify the code if I want to, and so that I'm not beholden to some subscription entity for thier interpretation of what I ought to be blocking. If OEMs were allowed to modify Windows, to weld whatever they wanted into the operating system instead of having to accept whatever Microsoft's wants welded into the operating system, personal computers geared for children might be one of the best results. Good luck. If you aren't stuck to Windows, then there are dozens of operating systems that you can modify to your heart's content. Some well-known people are promoting the idea of building PCs specifically for children. See: http://www.laptop.org/ -- mark south; echo |tr a-z n-za-m "I can trace my ancestry back to a protoplasmal primordial atomic globule. Consequently, my family pride is something inconceivable." -- Gilbert & Sullivan, The Mikado |
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On Tue, 16 May 2006 14:17:25 -0700, Rob Perkins wrote:
Unruh wrote: Ah, now you have trouble. The low power chips (Centrino, etc) are expensive. The low power glue chips are also expensive. But then again old laptops can probably be had for onle a couple of hundred bucks, and as I say, remove the cover so they can convectively cook, and you should be fine. Yeah, I noticed that. I take your point about old laptops, but I kind of also wanted this to be a building project. A couple of my kids like watching me put PC's together. Take a look at the parts listed at http://damnsmalllinux.org/store/ Both Damn Small Linux (link above) and Puppy Linux (http://www.puppyos.com) will run happily off a smallish flash memory, or boot off a CD and run entirely in RAM. Only needs about 128 Mb or so, depending on apps you want. (Not an endorsement, not a customer, no connection, void where prohibited by liquor licensing laws etc.) -- mark south; echo |tr a-z n-za-m "I can trace my ancestry back to a protoplasmal primordial atomic globule. Consequently, my family pride is something inconceivable." -- Gilbert & Sullivan, The Mikado |
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johns wrote:
Take up gaming. Beats the crap out of trying to keep Linux running :-) I have a lev 60 rogue and a lev 59 priest on Detheroc, World of Warcraft. Rob |
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I'm not stuck on Windows, I don't even promote Windows. However, as
an unusually active personal computer user, I benefit from all of the applications Windows supports and all of the hardware which comes with drivers written for Windows. Mark South mark.south null.invalid wrote: Path: newssvr12.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm05.news.prodigy. com!newsmst01b.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newsco n02.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!newsfeed.cwix.com !newsfeed.vmunix.org!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.cw.net!cw.net!news-FFM2.ecrc.de!news.net.uni-c.dk!dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail From: Mark South mark.south null.invalid Organization: Southern Enterprises Subject: Creating a low-power machine Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:57:51 +0200 User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) Message-ID: pan.2006.05.17.11.57.48.308441 bluewin.ch Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.os.li nux.misc References: 4cui8rF17nraqU1 individual.net Xns97C5C759392B10123456789 207.115.17.102 Reply-To: mark.south null.invalid x-genuine-south-post: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.133.176 X-Trace: news.sunsite.dk DXC=2QaLBZ0OjI`5kL0JZ2WfiYSB=nbEKnkkGR17mgORk1a4V _J:UeCfKb9E?YclN3h5fUajb7c`YnH269A`F4GNbFY1\Oi^ QnoMZ6Vl]37e6o X-Complaints-To: staff sunsite.dk Xref: prodigy.net alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:465851 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:193077 comp.os.linux.misc:736165 On Wed, 17 May 2006 00:35:42 +0000, John Doe wrote: Rob Perkins finitedev community.nospam wrote: The purpose of the machine is to serve as a ad/porn/hate site filter for my kids, aged 1 through 10. I want Open Source so that I can modify the code if I want to, and so that I'm not beholden to some subscription entity for thier interpretation of what I ought to be blocking. If OEMs were allowed to modify Windows, to weld whatever they wanted into the operating system instead of having to accept whatever Microsoft's wants welded into the operating system, personal computers geared for children might be one of the best results. Good luck. If you aren't stuck to Windows, then there are dozens of operating systems that you can modify to your heart's content. Some well-known people are promoting the idea of building PCs specifically for children. See: http://www.laptop.org/ -- mark south; echo znexfbhgu2000 lnubb.pb.hx|tr a-z n-za-m "I can trace my ancestry back to a protoplasmal primordial atomic globule. Consequently, my family pride is something inconceivable." -- Gilbert & Sullivan, The Mikado |
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Mark South wrote:
On Tue, 16 May 2006 14:17:25 -0700, Rob Perkins wrote: Unruh wrote: Ah, now you have trouble. The low power chips (Centrino, etc) are expensive. The low power glue chips are also expensive. But then again old laptops can probably be had for onle a couple of hundred bucks, and as I say, remove the cover so they can convectively cook, and you should be fine. Yeah, I noticed that. I take your point about old laptops, but I kind of also wanted this to be a building project. A couple of my kids like watching me put PC's together. Take a look at the parts listed at http://damnsmalllinux.org/store/ Well, I bought an EPIA ML6000 board as a base for my device, so we'll go from there. I was intrigued by the USB pen thing. Is there a download for that, as a pen image (I already have several USB flash devices) Rob |
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John Doe wrote:
I'm not stuck on Windows, I don't even promote Windows. However, as an unusually active personal computer user, I benefit from all of the applications Windows supports and all of the hardware which comes with drivers written for Windows. Let me offer, too, (with the hope that it doesn't alienate the Smart People here) that I simply don't care about Windows enough to be swayed by haughty opinions against it. Rob |
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