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Old October 12th 03, 10:25 AM
Lokke
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Default CD Writer hangs after failed firmware upgrade

I own a Creative 8432 (in fact a 8435E which is a Samsung SW-208). I
have used it successfully with CD-RW80 disks (1-4 x multispeed) and
with CD-R74 disks. My CD-R74 supplies have dried. CD-R80 blanks are
not recognized by Nero 5.5.

I decided to upgrade the firmware to the latest level to make CD-R80s
accessible because the writer is useless without CD-R80 support. Since
Creative doesn't supply firmware upgrades for the drive, I played
around with the Samsung firmware tools. I downloaded their Firmware
tool (sfdnwin.exe) and the binary BS04.bin.

Of course the tool initially found that it is NOT a Samsung writer and
quit. In the binary, using Notepad, I changed the ID string "SAMSUNG
CD-R/RW SW-208B" into "CREATIVE CD-RW RW8435E " (mind the extra
space). Then the tool recognized the writer and started the upgrade
process. But failed after 99%...

The writer now has the name SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-208B. But the Green
Ligth is permanently on. It normally flickers indicating read/write
access to an inserted disk. When I try again to upgrade the firmware
(I used the unmodified binary because it is a Samsung now) it attempts
to start the upgrade process but instructs me to remove the inserted
disk, then fails. The Eject button on the drive, nor the Eject
function in Windows (or Nero) work. I used a hairpin thru the small
hole in the door to mechanically force it to open. Even with the door
open, the green light remains on. I switched off DMA, but still the
light is on and the firmware tool cannot proceed.

Any suggestions other then "buy a new writer"? Are any general purpose
firmware tools available that just force an upgrade, with or without
an inserted disk? Or is the light just indicating that the writer is
busy and that therefore no other activity (like upgrading) can take
place?

Thanks,

Lokke
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Old October 12th 03, 07:39 PM
Mike Richter
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Lokke wrote:
I own a Creative 8432 (in fact a 8435E which is a Samsung SW-208). I
have used it successfully with CD-RW80 disks (1-4 x multispeed) and
with CD-R74 disks. My CD-R74 supplies have dried. CD-R80 blanks are
not recognized by Nero 5.5.


If you must crosspost, please do so correctly.

Replies posted in a.c.p.c.

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Old October 12th 03, 11:09 PM
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Lokke wrote:

If you must crosspost, please do so correctly.


Mikey, why didn't you slam James Goldman for incorrect crossposting?

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Old October 12th 03, 11:57 PM
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http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...mindspring.com
(Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69)

Mike Richter (Lying Scum) wrote:

Lokke wrote:

If you must crosspost, please do so correctly.


Mikey, why didn't you slam James Goldman for incorrect crossposting?

================================================== ====
From: smh
Subject: OSTA introduction
Date: 8/8/03

Mike Richter (King Troll) wrote (8/6/03):

James Goldman (OSTA Marketing Coordinator) wrote:


Mikey, why didn't you slam James Goldman for incorrect crossposting?

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From: Mike Richter (Newbie Slammer)
Date: (8/7/03)

Alpha wrote:


If you must crosspost, please do it correctly.
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Old October 13th 03, 12:49 AM
Nikos Chantziaras
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Lokke wrote:

Of course the tool initially found that it is NOT a Samsung writer and
quit. In the binary, using Notepad, I changed the ID string "SAMSUNG
CD-R/RW SW-208B" into "CREATIVE CD-RW RW8435E " (mind the extra
space). Then the tool recognized the writer and started the upgrade
process. But failed after 99%...


Using Notepad (or any other text-editor) for that, was a very, very bad
idea. Text-editors will modify the file in a destructive way (they think
there are line-breaks in there, but that's not true for a binary file). You
should use a hex-editor for that, which would allow you to change only what
you want, not messing up the whole file. Text-editors are for text-files,
not binary ones. Don't do it again.


--
Niko


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Old October 13th 03, 01:27 AM
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Old October 13th 03, 05:38 PM
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First of all, you should have not used notepad to edit the binary file - you
need to use a hex editor!

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"Lokke" wrote in message
...
I own a Creative 8432 (in fact a 8435E which is a Samsung SW-208). I
have used it successfully with CD-RW80 disks (1-4 x multispeed) and
with CD-R74 disks. My CD-R74 supplies have dried. CD-R80 blanks are
not recognized by Nero 5.5.

I decided to upgrade the firmware to the latest level to make CD-R80s
accessible because the writer is useless without CD-R80 support. Since
Creative doesn't supply firmware upgrades for the drive, I played
around with the Samsung firmware tools. I downloaded their Firmware
tool (sfdnwin.exe) and the binary BS04.bin.

Of course the tool initially found that it is NOT a Samsung writer and
quit. In the binary, using Notepad, I changed the ID string "SAMSUNG
CD-R/RW SW-208B" into "CREATIVE CD-RW RW8435E " (mind the extra
space). Then the tool recognized the writer and started the upgrade
process. But failed after 99%...

The writer now has the name SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-208B. But the Green
Ligth is permanently on. It normally flickers indicating read/write
access to an inserted disk. When I try again to upgrade the firmware
(I used the unmodified binary because it is a Samsung now) it attempts
to start the upgrade process but instructs me to remove the inserted
disk, then fails. The Eject button on the drive, nor the Eject
function in Windows (or Nero) work. I used a hairpin thru the small
hole in the door to mechanically force it to open. Even with the door
open, the green light remains on. I switched off DMA, but still the
light is on and the firmware tool cannot proceed.

Any suggestions other then "buy a new writer"? Are any general purpose
firmware tools available that just force an upgrade, with or without
an inserted disk? Or is the light just indicating that the writer is
busy and that therefore no other activity (like upgrading) can take
place?

Thanks,

Lokke



  #9  
Old October 13th 03, 07:39 PM
Mike Richter
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[email protected] wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:39:26 -0700, Mike Richter wrote:


Lokke wrote:

I own a Creative 8432 (in fact a 8435E which is a Samsung SW-208). I
have used it successfully with CD-RW80 disks (1-4 x multispeed) and
with CD-R74 disks. My CD-R74 supplies have dried. CD-R80 blanks are
not recognized by Nero 5.5.


If you must crosspost, please do so correctly.

Replies posted in a.c.p.c.

Mike



What was wrong with his crosspost asside from it's being a crosspost?


My error this time - and my apologies. It showed up in a second group
without displaying the others. It was excessively crossposted in my
opinion: a question should go to a single well-chosen group to avoid
repetition, of course, but the OP did crosspost correctly.

My apologies all around.

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Old October 13th 03, 10:53 PM
Lokke
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 02:49:14 +0300, "Nikos Chantziaras"
wrote:

Lokke wrote:

Of course the tool initially found that it is NOT a Samsung writer and
quit. In the binary, using Notepad, I changed the ID string "SAMSUNG
CD-R/RW SW-208B" into "CREATIVE CD-RW RW8435E " (mind the extra
space). Then the tool recognized the writer and started the upgrade
process. But failed after 99%...


Using Notepad (or any other text-editor) for that, was a very, very bad
idea. Text-editors will modify the file in a destructive way (they think
there are line-breaks in there, but that's not true for a binary file). You
should use a hex-editor for that, which would allow you to change only what
you want, not messing up the whole file. Text-editors are for text-files,
not binary ones. Don't do it again.


I am sorry. Mostly for the fact that the drive is dead and to a lesser
extend, that I did crosspost.

But will we know that Notepad was the source of the problem? Should I
binary compare the files? (and how)

Lokke

 




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