a little advice please

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:03:04 +0100, "Peter Taylor"
wrote:

I have yet to find a blown CPU that has not taken the hard drive and the
motherboard with it.

You appear to be most unfortunate. The normal failure mode of a
SMPSU is to fail dead. A service company I have some acquaintance
with reckons about 5% or less of SMPSU failures have concomitant
damage.

Most hard drives have 3 years cover, and do get
replaced by the manufacturer.

Which might be why most hard disk warranties are now down to 12
months. Why do you think a HD manufacturer should pay for your
faulty PSU or whatever?


--
Peter Parry.
http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/

Which might be why most hard disk warranties are now down to 12
months. Why do you think a HD manufacturer should pay for your
faulty PSU or whatever?

I never suggested they should pay for "My" faulty PSU or whatever!

I am still waiting for the first PC to arrive with a faulty PSU, that has
not taken the hard drive with it! This is a fact, and not really open to
debate. I have no doubt that someone has had a faulty PSU and the HD has
indeed survived, but not me.

"Peter Parry" wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:03:04 +0100, "Peter Taylor"
wrote:

I have yet to find a blown CPU that has not taken the hard drive and the
motherboard with it.

You appear to be most unfortunate. The normal failure mode of a
SMPSU is to fail dead. A service company I have some acquaintance
with reckons about 5% or less of SMPSU failures have concomitant
damage.

Most hard drives have 3 years cover, and do get
replaced by the manufacturer.

Which might be why most hard disk warranties are now down to 12
months. Why do you think a HD manufacturer should pay for your
faulty PSU or whatever?


--
Peter Parry.
http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/

"Peter Taylor" wrote in message
...
Which might be why most hard disk warranties are now down to 12
months. Why do you think a HD manufacturer should pay for your
faulty PSU or whatever?

I never suggested they should pay for "My" faulty PSU or whatever!

I am still waiting for the first PC to arrive with a faulty PSU, that has
not taken the hard drive with it! This is a fact, and not really open to
debate. I have no doubt that someone has had a faulty PSU and the HD has
indeed survived, but not me.


I had a PSU go tits up about a year ago, every componant was ok, i had to
install a 200w short term, ran 5-6 hd's, cd, burner, gfx and every pci, isa
slot used...i now run the scsi drives from a seperate psu in another tower
on that tower but all to one mobo.

I see some ****e psu's that i wont touch but to be honest dont know what
brands to trust or avoid.

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 00:24:05 +0100, "Peter Taylor"
wrote:

I am still waiting for the first PC to arrive with a faulty PSU, that has
not taken the hard drive with it! This is a fact, and not really open to
debate.

I don't doubt that this may be your experience - however it certainly
isn't the usual consequence of a SMPSU failure.

--
Peter Parry.
http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/

"Peter Parry" wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 00:24:05 +0100, "Peter Taylor"
wrote:

I am still waiting for the first PC to arrive with a faulty PSU, that has
not taken the hard drive with it! This is a fact, and not really open to
debate.

I don't doubt that this may be your experience - however it certainly
isn't the usual consequence of a SMPSU failure.

I had a PSU fail in the workshop last month, turned the machine on and there
was an almighty 'POP' a blue flash and a great spew of smoke and dust.

The board was toast, but the drives were ok, this was fortunate as one of
the jobs to do was backup all the customers data!

On closer inspection of the offending PSU, it was choc full of dust, the
firm it came from did metal fabriction so I imagine the dust had a lot of
metal in it, and the journey disloged some of it causing a short when I
switced on.
(note to self, order more air dusters)



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"Peter Taylor" wrote in message
...
Which might be why most hard disk warranties are now down to 12
months. Why do you think a HD manufacturer should pay for your
faulty PSU or whatever?

I never suggested they should pay for "My" faulty PSU or whatever!

I am still waiting for the first PC to arrive with a faulty PSU, that has
not taken the hard drive with it! This is a fact, and not really open to
debate. I have no doubt that someone has had a faulty PSU and the HD has
indeed survived, but not me.

I've never had a PSU take out a hard drive... and i've swapped hundreds.

I've had them catch fire and fry mainboards but never kill a drive.

There ya go... for every negative there's a positive

"Peter Taylor" wrote in message ...

I am still waiting for the first PC to arrive with a faulty PSU, that has
not taken the hard drive with it! This is a fact, and not really open to
debate.

It certainly is open to debate, and it's utter ********.
I've seen dozens of PSU failures - it's by far the most common cause
of PC failure, and I've never known a PSU failure to take out the HD
with it.

No sorry, not utter ********, but simple fact. You can argue the point
until your blue in the face, but I am still waiting for my first fry up with
the HD still running. Sorry to correct you.
"peter" wrote in message
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"Peter Taylor" wrote in message
...

I am still waiting for the first PC to arrive with a faulty PSU, that
has
not taken the hard drive with it! This is a fact, and not really open
to
debate.

It certainly is open to debate, and it's utter ********.
I've seen dozens of PSU failures - it's by far the most common cause
of PC failure, and I've never known a PSU failure to take out the HD
with it.

"Peter Taylor" wrote in message ...
"peter" wrote in message
om...
"Peter Taylor" wrote in message
...

I am still waiting for the first PC to arrive with a faulty PSU, that
has
not taken the hard drive with it! This is a fact, and not really open
to
debate.

It certainly is open to debate, and it's utter ********.
I've seen dozens of PSU failures - it's by far the most common cause
of PC failure, and I've never known a PSU failure to take out the HD
with it.

(Top posting corrected)

No sorry, not utter ********, but simple fact. You can argue the point
until your blue in the face, but I am still waiting for my first fry up with
the HD still running. Sorry to correct you.

Your assertion casts severe doubt on your technical competence.
Care to tell us precisely how many PSU failures you have really seen?
(and try to post properly please)

"peter" wrote in message
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"Peter Taylor" wrote in message
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"peter" wrote in message
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"Peter Taylor" wrote in message
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I am still waiting for the first PC to arrive with a faulty PSU,
that
has
not taken the hard drive with it! This is a fact, and not really
open
to
debate.

It certainly is open to debate, and it's utter ********.
I've seen dozens of PSU failures - it's by far the most common cause
of PC failure, and I've never known a PSU failure to take out the HD
with it.

(Top posting corrected)

No sorry, not utter ********, but simple fact. You can argue the point
until your blue in the face, but I am still waiting for my first fry up
with
the HD still running. Sorry to correct you.

Your assertion casts severe doubt on your technical competence.
Care to tell us precisely how many PSU failures you have really seen?
(and try to post properly please)

I think the answer to your question is above! Open you eyes and you will
see.