Um... RAID controller/drive problem?

Help! I'm not yet familiar with all the ins and outs of SCSI drives, and have
the following problem -

I was wondering if it was possible to run a single SCSI hard disk off a SCSI
RAID Host adapter? Because I connected an Ultra320 hard disk to a RAID
controller by itself, and it seems to work for a few weeks without any problem
(except for some message about configuration error 02 on channel B, which I can
just ignore), then one day, the drive just stops working and cannot be checked
or verified with any utilities - it just becomes totally unreadable one day, and
the whole drive has to get re-formatted. Then it works fine again for a few weeks.

I think this recurring problem might have something to do with the fact I'm
trying to run a single drive on a RAID setup.

Please let me know if this setup I am trying is an impossible configuration, or
should I not be experiencing this phenomena with a single drive setup?

If it's just a case of me having created an unsupported configuration, then
adding a second identical drive will fix it, yes?

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage fred wrote:
Help! I'm not yet familiar with all the ins and outs of SCSI drives, and have
the following problem -

I was wondering if it was possible to run a single SCSI hard disk off a SCSI
RAID Host adapter? Because I connected an Ultra320 hard disk to a RAID
controller by itself, and it seems to work for a few weeks without any problem
(except for some message about configuration error 02 on channel B, which I can
just ignore), then one day, the drive just stops working and cannot be checked
or verified with any utilities - it just becomes totally unreadable one day, and
the whole drive has to get re-formatted. Then it works fine again for a few weeks.

I think this recurring problem might have something to do with the fact I'm
trying to run a single drive on a RAID setup.

Please let me know if this setup I am trying is an impossible configuration, or
should I not be experiencing this phenomena with a single drive setup?

If it's just a case of me having created an unsupported configuration, then
adding a second identical drive will fix it, yes?

A well-designed controller should either support this reliably or not at
all. Both are valid possibilities. I would advise you to throw away this
junk-controller and get something more reliable.

Arno

"Arno Wagner" wrote in message
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage fred wrote:

Help! I'm not yet familiar with all the ins and outs of SCSI drives,

But you are on Raid controllers, obviously.

and have the following problem -

I was wondering if it was possible to run a single SCSI hard disk off a SCSI
RAID Host adapter? Because I connected an Ultra320 hard disk to a RAID
controller by itself, and it seems to work for a few weeks without any problem
(except for some message about configuration error 02 on channel B, which I can
just ignore), then one day, the drive just stops working and cannot be checked
or verified with any utilities - it just becomes totally unreadable one day, and
the whole drive has to get re-formatted. Then it works fine again for a few weeks.

I think this recurring problem might have something to do with the fact I'm
trying to run a single drive on a RAID setup.

Please let me know if this setup I am trying is an impossible configuration, or
should I not be experiencing this phenomena with a single drive setup?

If it's just a case of me having created an unsupported configuration, then
adding a second identical drive will fix it, yes?

A well-designed controller should either support this reliably or not at
all. Both are valid possibilities. I would advise you to throw away this
junk-controller and get something more reliable.

Typical clueless babblebot.
Doesn't even ask what controller, whether there are BIOS/driver updates
or even what the error message was.


Arno

Folkert Rienstra wrote:
"Arno Wagner" wrote in message
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage fred wrote:

Help! I'm not yet familiar with all the ins and outs of SCSI drives,

But you are on Raid controllers, obviously.

and have the following problem -

I was wondering if it was possible to run a single SCSI hard disk off a SCSI
RAID Host adapter? Because I connected an Ultra320 hard disk to a RAID
controller by itself, and it seems to work for a few weeks without any problem
(except for some message about configuration error 02 on channel B, which I can
just ignore), then one day, the drive just stops working and cannot be checked
or verified with any utilities - it just becomes totally unreadable one day, and
the whole drive has to get re-formatted. Then it works fine again for a few weeks.
I think this recurring problem might have something to do with the fact I'm
trying to run a single drive on a RAID setup.
Please let me know if this setup I am trying is an impossible configuration, or
should I not be experiencing this phenomena with a single drive setup?
If it's just a case of me having created an unsupported configuration, then
adding a second identical drive will fix it, yes?

A well-designed controller should either support this reliably or not at
all. Both are valid possibilities. I would advise you to throw away this
junk-controller and get something more reliable.

Typical clueless babblebot.
Doesn't even ask what controller, whether there are BIOS/driver updates
or even what the error message was.

Arno

The Card is an Adaptec 39320 RAID controller. The HDD is a 146Gb Seagate Cheetah
(68pin).
The message is something like "39320 B slot 3 SCSI configuration error: 02"
maybe not exactly like that, but that is the gist of it.

"fred" wrote in message ...

The Card is an Adaptec 39320 RAID controller. The HDD is a 146Gb Seagate Cheetah (68pin).
The message is something like "39320 B slot 3 SCSI configuration error: 02" maybe not exactly
like that, but that is the gist of it.

This is a SCSI card with optional RAID. Ultra 320 is overkill for a single disk.

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage fred wrote:
Folkert Rienstra wrote:
"Arno Wagner" wrote in message
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage fred wrote:

Help! I'm not yet familiar with all the ins and outs of SCSI drives,

But you are on Raid controllers, obviously.

and have the following problem -

I was wondering if it was possible to run a single SCSI hard disk off a SCSI
RAID Host adapter? Because I connected an Ultra320 hard disk to a RAID
controller by itself, and it seems to work for a few weeks without any problem
(except for some message about configuration error 02 on channel B, which I can
just ignore), then one day, the drive just stops working and cannot be checked
or verified with any utilities - it just becomes totally unreadable one day, and
the whole drive has to get re-formatted. Then it works fine again for a few weeks.
I think this recurring problem might have something to do with the fact I'm
trying to run a single drive on a RAID setup.
Please let me know if this setup I am trying is an impossible configuration, or
should I not be experiencing this phenomena with a single drive setup?
If it's just a case of me having created an unsupported configuration, then
adding a second identical drive will fix it, yes?

A well-designed controller should either support this reliably or not at
all. Both are valid possibilities. I would advise you to throw away this
junk-controller and get something more reliable.

Typical clueless babblebot.
Doesn't even ask what controller, whether there are BIOS/driver updates
or even what the error message was.

Arno

The Card is an Adaptec 39320 RAID controller. The HDD is a 146Gb Seagate Cheetah
(68pin).
The message is something like "39320 B slot 3 SCSI configuration error: 02"
maybe not exactly like that, but that is the gist of it.

Well,unfortunately Adaptec is high-proced trash. The first disk I lost
with their controllers was an ESDI disk way back. They had a problem
they did not admit to then. The last thing I bought was an exceedingly
unreliable 8-way SATA RAID controller. It kept dropping disks without
good reason.

This fool-you-into-thinking-it-works behaviour just means they think
their name is good enough and they do not have to actually care about
their customers data. I would advise you to move to something worth
its money, e.g. 3ware.


Arno

Folkert Rienstra wrote:

"Arno Wagner" wrote in message
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage fred wrote:

Help! I'm not yet familiar with all the ins and outs of SCSI drives,

But you are on Raid controllers, obviously.

and have the following problem -

I was wondering if it was possible to run a single SCSI hard disk off a SCSI
RAID Host adapter? Because I connected an Ultra320 hard disk to a RAID
controller by itself, and it seems to work for a few weeks without any problem
(except for some message about configuration error 02 on channel B, which I can
just ignore), then one day, the drive just stops working and cannot be checked
or verified with any utilities - it just becomes totally unreadable one day, and
the whole drive has to get re-formatted. Then it works fine again for a few weeks.

I think this recurring problem might have something to do with the fact I'm
trying to run a single drive on a RAID setup.

Please let me know if this setup I am trying is an impossible configuration, or
should I not be experiencing this phenomena with a single drive setup?

If it's just a case of me having created an unsupported configuration, then
adding a second identical drive will fix it, yes?

A well-designed controller should either support this reliably or not at
all. Both are valid possibilities. I would advise you to throw away this
junk-controller and get something more reliable.

Typical clueless babblebot.
Doesn't even ask what controller, whether there are BIOS/driver updates
or even what the error message was.


And your solution is????

****. Please go away. No-one likes you. Myself included.


OD

"fred" wrote in message
Folkert Rienstra wrote:
"Arno Wagner" wrote in message
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage fred wrote:

Help! I'm not yet familiar with all the ins and outs of SCSI drives,

But you are on Raid controllers, obviously.

and have the following problem -

I was wondering if it was possible to run a single SCSI hard disk off a SCSI
RAID Host adapter? Because I connected an Ultra320 hard disk to a RAID
controller by itself, and it seems to work for a few weeks without any problem
(except for some message about configuration error 02 on channel B, which I can
just ignore), then one day, the drive just stops working and cannot be checked
or verified with any utilities - it just becomes totally unreadable one day, and
the whole drive has to get re-formatted. Then it works fine again for a few weeks.
I think this recurring problem might have something to do with the fact I'm
trying to run a single drive on a RAID setup.
Please let me know if this setup I am trying is an impossible configuration, or
should I not be experiencing this phenomena with a single drive setup?
If it's just a case of me having created an unsupported configuration, then
adding a second identical drive will fix it, yes?

A well-designed controller should either support this reliably or not at
all. Both are valid possibilities. I would advise you to throw away this
junk-controller and get something more reliable.

Typical clueless babblebot.
Doesn't even ask what controller, whether there are BIOS/driver updates
or even what the error message was.

Arno

The Card is an Adaptec 39320 RAID controller. The HDD is a 146Gb Seagate Cheetah
(68pin).
The message is something like "39320 B slot 3 SCSI configuration error: 02"

"Something like" usually doesn't cut it when using Google to find answers.

maybe not exactly like that, but that is the gist of it.

A.S.K. database search at Adaptec.com though yielded this results with a little help from
some of Google's more loose search results:

http://adaptec-tic.adaptec.com/cgi-b...?p_faqid=14319
and
http://adaptec-tic.adaptec.com/cgi-b...?p_faqid=11116

Unfortunately, though they appear to address the same error message the answers are quite different.
(Wrong firmware vs wrong bus type is quite a stretch and appear unrelated).

Only thing they have in common is connected peripheral(s), maybe SCSI bus itself.
So it could be that your adaptec doesn't like your drive or your SCSI bus topology.

"Arno Wagner" wrote in message
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage fred wrote:
Folkert Rienstra wrote:
"Arno Wagner" wrote in message
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage fred wrote:

Help! I'm not yet familiar with all the ins and outs of SCSI drives,

But you are on Raid controllers, obviously.

and have the following problem -

I was wondering if it was possible to run a single SCSI hard disk off a SCSI
RAID Host adapter? Because I connected an Ultra320 hard disk to a RAID
controller by itself, and it seems to work for a few weeks without any problem
(except for some message about configuration error 02 on channel B, which I can
just ignore), then one day, the drive just stops working and cannot be checked
or verified with any utilities - it just becomes totally unreadable one day, and
the whole drive has to get re-formatted. Then it works fine again for a few weeks.
I think this recurring problem might have something to do with the fact I'm
trying to run a single drive on a RAID setup.
Please let me know if this setup I am trying is an impossible configuration, or
should I not be experiencing this phenomena with a single drive setup?
If it's just a case of me having created an unsupported configuration, then
adding a second identical drive will fix it, yes?

A well-designed controller should either support this reliably or not at
all. Both are valid possibilities. I would advise you to throw away this
junk-controller and get something more reliable.

Typical clueless babblebot.
Doesn't even ask what controller, whether there are BIOS/driver updates
or even what the error message was.

Arno

The Card is an Adaptec 39320 RAID controller. The HDD is a 146Gb Seagate Cheetah
(68pin).
The message is something like "39320 B slot 3 SCSI configuration error: 02"
maybe not exactly like that, but that is the gist of it.

Well,unfortunately Adaptec is high-proced trash.

Babblebot on his 100.000th brainfarct.

The first disk I lost with their controllers was an ESDI disk way back.
They had a problem they did not admit to then.

The last thing I bought was an exceedingly
unreliable 8-way SATA RAID controller.
It kept dropping disks without good reason.

This fool-you-into-thinking-it-works behaviour just means they think
their name is good enough and they do not have to actually care about
their customers data.

Gibberish.

I would advise you to move to something worth its money, e.g. 3ware.

Very good, moron babblebot.
3ware are renowned for their SCSI controllers and Non-RAID controllers.
For not having any of them, that is.



Arno

"Rita Ä Berkowitz" ritaberk2O04 @aol.com wrote in message
fred wrote:

The Card is an Adaptec 39320 RAID controller. The HDD is a 146Gb
Seagate Cheetah (68pin).

NEVER EVER buy or attempt to use any Adaptec SCSI RAID products as they are
garbage. You need a good entry level LSI MegaRAID SCSI 320-2X (532)
Controller.

Yep, both the RAID capability and the Ultra320 bus
obviously makes such a lot of sense, for just a single drive.
Wotamoron.

LSI MegaRAID controllers are very inexpensive and highly
reliable. Your choice of the Seagate Cheetah is a very smart one. Use no
other drive than Seagate Cheetah. Throw the Adaptec in the trash and grab
an LSI.

I'm not sure what motherboard you are using, but I'll bet it’s an Intel.
Sometimes you can get lucky by swapping the Adaptec controller in a
different PCI-X slot.

Bwahahah.

Good luck.







Rita