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Unicomp Model-M a disaster
Good day all.
I love the Model M keyboard, and have several PS/2 ones. I also have 2 Unicomp USB Model M's. Now, I haven't tried the other one of those that I have (without Windows Keys) but the one I am using now is a DISASTER! I do not know what they did with their USB controller, but it is horrible. When I boot the PC, if I press any key too quickly (e.g. if I do not wait 5 seconds) then the keyboard will lock-up. It makes it hard to enter the BIOS. And if I put the computer to sleep, then 1/3rd to 2/3rds of the time, when I wake it with the keyboard, the keyboard freezes. It gets weirder; when I wake the computer with the keyboard, I can hear Windows "re-discover" the keyboard (you can hear the new USB device sound,) the NumLock light does not turn back on until that sound plays, but more often than not, the keyboard doesn't re-load properly and becomes unusable. Anyone have a Unicomp USB keyboard? How does it work for you? I'm already thinking of getting a Mechanical Keyboard, but haven't found one that LOOKS like the Model-M (i.e. BIG). Thank you. Best Regards, -- ! _\|/_ Sylvain / ! (o o) Memberavid-Suzuki-Fdn/EFF/Red+Cross/SPCA/Planetary-Society oO-( )-Oo Atheism is a non-prophet organization. |
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Unicomp Model-M a disaster
B00ze wrote:
I love the Model M keyboard, and have several PS/2 ones. I also have 2 Unicomp USB Model M's. I do not know what they did with their USB controller, but it is horrible. I'm already thinking of getting a Mechanical Keyboard, but haven't found one that LOOKS like the Model-M (i.e. BIG). Why not use of of your PS/2 model M keyboards? Just get the right USB adapter that can supply the hefty power requirement, IME the one that works looks like this http://zevv.nl/play/misc/ibm-usb/modelm_usb-001.jpg I've also heard people having success using a KVM that has PS/2 ports with USB ports |
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Unicomp Model-M a disaster
On 2018-01-13, B00ze wrote:
Anyone have a Unicomp USB keyboard? How does it work for you? My father-in-law bought one because the keyboard that came with his new PC was awful. (Most of them ae.) It's been fine, he loves it. No issues, though the feel is not quite as good as a real Model M, which is what I use with a PS2-USB adapter. I'm already thinking of getting a Mechanical Keyboard, but haven't found one that LOOKS like the Model-M (i.e. BIG). I haven't put them next to each other, but his Unicomp looks to me to be approximately the same size as the Model M. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Unicomp Model-M a disaster
On 13/1/2018 12:05, B00ze wrote:
Good day all. I love the Model M keyboard, and have several PS/2 ones. I also have 2 Unicomp USB Model M's. Now, I haven't tried the other one of those that I have (without Windows Keys) but the one I am using now is a DISASTER! I do not know what they did with their USB controller, but it is horrible. When I boot the PC, if I press any key too quickly (e.g. if I do not wait 5 seconds) then the keyboard will lock-up. It makes it hard to enter the BIOS. And if I put the computer to sleep, then 1/3rd to 2/3rds of the time, when I wake it with the keyboard, the keyboard freezes. It gets weirder; when I wake the computer with the keyboard, I can hear Windows "re-discover" the keyboard (you can hear the new USB device sound,) the NumLock light does not turn back on until that sound plays, but more often than not, the keyboard doesn't re-load properly and becomes unusable. Anyone have a Unicomp USB keyboard? How does it work for you? I have bought one Unicomp and asked Unicomp to repair an older IBM Model M. Both of them worked without USB issues. Your problem might be caused by the red joy-mouse. -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Unicomp Model-M a disaster
On 01/12/2018 08:05 PM, B00ze wrote:
Good day all. I love the Model M keyboard, and have several PS/2 ones. I also have 2 Unicomp USB Model M's. Now, I haven't tried the other one of those that I have (without Windows Keys) but the one I am using now is a DISASTER! I do not know what they did with their USB controller, but it is horrible. When I boot the PC, if I press any key too quickly (e.g. if I do not wait 5 seconds) then the keyboard will lock-up. It makes it hard to enter the BIOS. And if I put the computer to sleep, then 1/3rd to 2/3rds of the time, when I wake it with the keyboard, the keyboard freezes. It gets weirder; when I wake the computer with the keyboard, I can hear Windows "re-discover" the keyboard (you can hear the new USB device sound,) the NumLock light does not turn back on until that sound plays, but more often than not, the keyboard doesn't re-load properly and becomes unusable. Anyone have a Unicomp USB keyboard? How does it work for you? I'm already thinking of getting a Mechanical Keyboard, but haven't found one that LOOKS like the Model-M (i.e. BIG). Thank you. Best Regards, Hi Booze, I sell them and own one myself. I "ADORE" them. The only issues I have come across is the spring under the space bar on two units I sold. A quick call to Unicomp at 859-233-2130 got both of them fixed. It sounds like you got a bad unit. Call Unicomp. They will make it right for you. I am a very fast typist. I am a good 50% faster typing on a Unicomp as it was meant to emulate the IBM Selectric typewriter. Some of the el-cheap-o keyboards I have to use at customer sites drive me around the bend. You can't tell one key apart from another and you can't tell when you have depressed a key. I wind up having to watch every key I press. It is a pain in the neck (not my "exact" word) and severely slows me down. Laptops are the worst. So call Unicomp and get yours fixed and then start enjoying using a decent keyboard for a change! :-) -T |
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Unicomp Model-M a disaster
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 23:05:09 -0500 "B00ze" wrote in
article Anyone have a Unicomp USB keyboard? How does it work for you? I'm sorry you are having so much trouble. I have had one (a USB model M with Windows keys and APL legends too) for a few years with no problems whatsoever. |
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Unicomp Model-M a disaster (Reply to everyone)
Good day all.
I rummaged into my keyboard box this weekend, hoping to find a $10 USB keyboard to test, but no luck, all PS/2. But I tried my other USB Unicomp, the one without the Windows Keys. That one does NOT freeze-up when waking the computer from sleep, however, the lights (NumLock,...) do NOT wake-up! So when the computer goes to sleep the lights go out but the keyboard is still active. When I wake the PC, the keyboard gets re-detected (I still find this behaviour strange) but the lights stay out. If I then press CapsLock, well there you go, NumLock turns on along with CapsLock. My Unicomp with the windows keys doesn't have that problem. I wonder if they can ship me updated controllers. I also tested with Windows 10: Lo and Behold, the Unicomp with windows keys gets re-detected as before, but it does not freeze. Apparently Windows 10 has better USB drivers than Windows 7. Don't get me wrong, the keyboards work fine, EXCEPT when it comes to powering-up/sleep, then they are a disaster. Andy: Yeah, I even have a PS/2 port on my current motherboard lol, but I bought these USB ones because everything's USB nowadays + all my PS/2 Model M's do not have the Windows key. I also have USB-PS2 adapters, but many of those do not work, I haven't tried the ones I do have. Roger: Yeah, the Unicomp ARE the same as Model-M's; what I am thinking of is a Cherry-MX keyboard that does not come with a light-show, and that is roughly the same shape as a Model-M. Removable key caps would be appreciated (it's so easy to wash a Model M). T: Yeah, I will open a ticket, maybe I can get updated controller boards. Thanks all. Let's see what I can get out of Unicomp... Regards, -- ! _\|/_ Sylvain / ! (o o) Memberavid-Suzuki-Fdn/EFF/Red+Cross/SPCA/Planetary-Society oO-( )-Oo "And yesterday the planet seemed to be going so well." -Dent |
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Unicomp Model-M a disaster (Reply to everyone)
On 2018-01-16 11:57, B00ze wrote:
T: Yeah, I will open a ticket, maybe I can get updated controller boards. Bought 2 new updated controller boards, let's see how they fare once I get them... -- ! _\|/_ Sylvain / ! (o o) Memberavid-Suzuki-Fdn/EFF/Red+Cross/SPCA/Planetary-Society oO-( )-Oo "Intel Inside" is a government warning requied by law. |
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Unicomp Model-M a disaster (Reply to everyone)
On 2018-01-17 01:45, B00ze wrote:
On 2018-01-16 11:57, B00ze wrote: T: Yeah, I will open a ticket, maybe I can get updated controller boards. Bought 2 new updated controller boards, let's see how they fare once I get them... For those who can still access the rest of this thread (for context): I have finally taken the time to replace the v6.x controller boards for my USB Unicomps with the v7.x controllers they sent me. The problem with the keyboard totally freezing-up if I dared to touch it while the BIOS was booting-up is resolved (Hurray!) The strange behaviour when waking the computer from sleep is still the Windows re-detects the keyboard, as tho I had unplugged it while asleep, and sometimes it does not detect it correctly so you're stuck on the logon screen. I tested with a cheap Logitech keyboard, and it is definitively a Unicomp thing, there is no re-detecting the keyboard on wake with the Logitech. The bad news is that my older 101 keys Unicomp uses a different locking mechanism for holding the controller board than my newer 103 keys, and I am totally unable to make the controller connect to all of the keyboard's signal lines, so some keys are always not working. I guess I will have to buy some foam-tape and try to make the foam push the flexible membrane harder against the PCB. I have asked Unicomp if they can do anything for me but had not heard back in a week - I might have to open a new ticket rather than open my old one. Will update this thread. Regards, -- ! _\|/_ Sylvain / ! (o o) Memberavid-Suzuki-Fdn/EFF/Red+Cross/SPCA/Planetary-Society oO-( )-Oo Despite the cost of living, it remains very popular. |
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Unicomp Model-M a disaster (New foam pad in the mail)
On 2018-05-01 22:44, B00ze wrote:
For those who can still access the rest of this thread (for context): I have finally taken the time to replace the v6.x controller boards for my USB Unicomps with the v7.x controllers they sent me. The problem with the keyboard totally freezing-up if I dared to touch it while the BIOS was booting-up is resolved (Hurray!) The strange behaviour when waking the computer from sleep is still the Windows re-detects the keyboard, as tho I had unplugged it while asleep, and sometimes it does not detect it correctly so you're stuck on the logon screen. I tested with a cheap Logitech keyboard, and it is definitively a Unicomp thing, there is no re-detecting the keyboard on wake with the Logitech. The bad news is that my older 101 keys Unicomp uses a different locking mechanism for holding the controller board than my newer 103 keys, and I am totally unable to make the controller connect to all of the keyboard's signal lines, so some keys are always not working. I guess I will have to buy some foam-tape and try to make the foam push the flexible membrane harder against the PCB. I have asked Unicomp if they can do anything for me but had not heard back in a week - I might have to open a new ticket rather than open my old one. Will update this thread. Regards, Unicomp is sending me a new foam pad. I will try to remove the old one and place this one a little lower, so that contact is better with the PCB. Will report back. Pretty happy with the new version 7 controller; if this foam pad works, I will mark this thread as resolved and give a hearty two thumbs up for Unicomp keyboards. Best Regards, -- ! _\|/_ Sylvain / ! (o o) Memberavid-Suzuki-Fdn/EFF/Red+Cross/SPCA/Planetary-Society oO-( )-Oo Data, ahh, I think Spot needs a litter box. -Troi |
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