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RAM QVL changes: What happened to G.Skill?
When a few years ago I put together computers using M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3
and M5A88-V EVO motherboards, I used G.Skill RAM modules that were on the respective QVLs. Today I was checking for BIOS updates and happened to look at the latest QVLs: only one G.Skill module for each motherboard -- and not the ones I used, which are still working fine. Has G.Skill's quality control deteriorated, or ...? Perce |
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RAM QVL changes: What happened to G.Skill?
Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
When a few years ago I put together computers using M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 and M5A88-V EVO motherboards, I used G.Skill RAM modules that were on the respective QVLs. Today I was checking for BIOS updates and happened to look at the latest QVLs: only one G.Skill module for each motherboard -- and not the ones I used, which are still working fine. Has G.Skill's quality control deteriorated, or ...? Perce Do you suppose it costs money to get on a QVL ? Or perhaps you have to donate a few dozen modules to the company keeping the QVL. Maybe GSkill is confident enough in their marketing position, to just skip the "QVL circuit". There is nothing here to suggest a going-out-of-business situation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gskill I consider a QVL to largely be a waste of time, but since every bit of information helps, I'm not going to totally rule out the reading of such docs. Some QVL lists, the modules are two years old, and you can't even find them for sale any more. For example, think about the AMD situation, where the chipsets are several years old - any modules they might be tossing around in the lab, are likely to match the vintage of the chipsets and no longer be for sale. Sometimes, I find a warning of a potential problem in a customer review of a memory product, that does me as much good. There have been a few memory products, where for some reason, they work better on AMD or Intel. And when you see comments to that effect, then you go to either an enthusiast overclocker site or a tech review site (Anandtech), to see what the scoop is. On the last three purchases, I didn't use a QVL, but I did use a lot of customer reviews. And for the DDR2 stuff, I ruled out quite a few products, purely by the bad reviews. The DDR3 I bought, simply verifying it wasn't a disaster was sufficient. It worked great, no complaints at all. I haven't bought any DDR4 yet, and I won't be in the market for a new computer for some time. Budget is blown for this year... ******* If you want to check GSkill's quality control, read the customer reviews. One thing the QVL is meant to "signal", is how much OC headroom the DIMM slots have. For example, if there is only one set of "Team" modules, "single sided" for the top most DIMM clock speed, maybe the setup just isn't meant for those kinds of speeds. A QVL, well populated from top to bottom, that's telling you the design/chipset/memory controller is pretty solid. So it's not always a matter of no modules being available, but rather the motherboard isn't all that good for extreme memories. There's more than one way to interpret a QVL. I doubt the boss in their lab would be very happy, if all the failing modules got listed :-) Paul |
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