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  #1  
Old December 3rd 06, 03:27 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
***** charles
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Default Printing to a net printer?

Hi all,

I have a Laserwriter 16/600PS that is connected to my lan
with ethernet. I also have a Windows 2000 Pro machine
that I have to get to print to this thing. How do I determine
the IP address of the printer? and How do I set up 2K
to print to the thing?

thanks a bunch,
charles......


  #2  
Old December 3rd 06, 06:31 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
Irv
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Default Printing to a net printer?

hey Charles

hopefully, these links combined will get you going.
looks like special stuff for that printer when using win2k.
good luck.


http://www.whoopis.com/howtos/laserwriter16-600/

http://cag.csail.mit.edu/~mtaylor/7300N

http://www-jerry.oit.duke.edu/commun...p_printer.html

https://webserver.brandeis.edu/pages...etworkPrinting


"***** charles" wrote in message
. net...
Hi all,

I have a Laserwriter 16/600PS that is connected to my lan
with ethernet. I also have a Windows 2000 Pro machine
that I have to get to print to this thing. How do I determine
the IP address of the printer? and How do I set up 2K
to print to the thing?

thanks a bunch,
charles......




  #3  
Old December 3rd 06, 08:12 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
***** charles
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Posts: 69
Default Printing to a net printer?

Thanks for the links. Some I had already seen. None say how to get
the IP address of the printer. Chicken and egg problem - you have
to know the ip to manage the ip. I have no MacIntosh computers so
I can't use the printer utility about which they speak. I don't have a
Windows 95 machine either. There seems to be a utility program that
runs on 95 but I don't think it works with 2000.
I have had the printer connected to the 2000 machine with the parallel
port and the proper driver was loaded. It has printed pages out before
but now it just sits there and doesn't respond when I send a print job
to it. Eventually it just times out and gives me a printing error. That's
when I thought that switching to a network link might work. I have
tried disconnecting and reconnecting, unloading and reloading drivers
and no response for the parrallel connection. I installed the unix
printing stuff about which the articles speak but untill I know the IP
address of the printer, I am stuck.

later.....

"Irv" wrote in message
...
hey Charles

hopefully, these links combined will get you going.
looks like special stuff for that printer when using win2k.
good luck.


http://www.whoopis.com/howtos/laserwriter16-600/

http://cag.csail.mit.edu/~mtaylor/7300N

http://www-jerry.oit.duke.edu/commun...p_printer.html

https://webserver.brandeis.edu/pages...etworkPrinting


"***** charles" wrote in message
. net...
Hi all,

I have a Laserwriter 16/600PS that is connected to my lan
with ethernet. I also have a Windows 2000 Pro machine
that I have to get to print to this thing. How do I determine
the IP address of the printer? and How do I set up 2K
to print to the thing?

thanks a bunch,
charles......






  #4  
Old December 3rd 06, 08:51 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
Irv
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Default Printing to a net printer?

maybe you can look at the connections table on the router and see if an
addfress is missing.
i know that our router skips the addresses assigned to printers.
does the printer have a display.

i would try the win 95 program.
there is a way you can tell windows to run it as a win95 program so maybe
you can get somewhere after all.


"***** charles" wrote in message
t...
Thanks for the links. Some I had already seen. None say how to get
the IP address of the printer. Chicken and egg problem - you have
to know the ip to manage the ip. I have no MacIntosh computers so
I can't use the printer utility about which they speak. I don't have a
Windows 95 machine either. There seems to be a utility program that
runs on 95 but I don't think it works with 2000.
I have had the printer connected to the 2000 machine with the parallel
port and the proper driver was loaded. It has printed pages out before
but now it just sits there and doesn't respond when I send a print job
to it. Eventually it just times out and gives me a printing error.
That's
when I thought that switching to a network link might work. I have
tried disconnecting and reconnecting, unloading and reloading drivers
and no response for the parrallel connection. I installed the unix
printing stuff about which the articles speak but untill I know the IP
address of the printer, I am stuck.

later.....

"Irv" wrote in message
...
hey Charles

hopefully, these links combined will get you going.
looks like special stuff for that printer when using win2k.
good luck.


http://www.whoopis.com/howtos/laserwriter16-600/

http://cag.csail.mit.edu/~mtaylor/7300N

http://www-jerry.oit.duke.edu/commun...p_printer.html

https://webserver.brandeis.edu/pages...etworkPrinting


"***** charles" wrote in message
. net...
Hi all,

I have a Laserwriter 16/600PS that is connected to my lan
with ethernet. I also have a Windows 2000 Pro machine
that I have to get to print to this thing. How do I determine
the IP address of the printer? and How do I set up 2K
to print to the thing?

thanks a bunch,
charles......








  #5  
Old December 3rd 06, 09:29 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
Irv
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Default Printing to a net printer?

maybe try asking these folks

fixyour ownprinter.com

also look here

http://www.ernietheattorney.net/erni...zing_prin.html

there is an apple printer utility for windows that might help.
all this apple stuff is greek to me.

hope some of my search items help.

you need laserwriter utility for windows.
i couldn't find it.
but look here
http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/d...ty/Default.asp


"***** charles" wrote in message
t...
Thanks for the links. Some I had already seen. None say how to get
the IP address of the printer. Chicken and egg problem - you have
to know the ip to manage the ip. I have no MacIntosh computers so
I can't use the printer utility about which they speak. I don't have a
Windows 95 machine either. There seems to be a utility program that
runs on 95 but I don't think it works with 2000.
I have had the printer connected to the 2000 machine with the parallel
port and the proper driver was loaded. It has printed pages out before
but now it just sits there and doesn't respond when I send a print job
to it. Eventually it just times out and gives me a printing error.
That's
when I thought that switching to a network link might work. I have
tried disconnecting and reconnecting, unloading and reloading drivers
and no response for the parrallel connection. I installed the unix
printing stuff about which the articles speak but untill I know the IP
address of the printer, I am stuck.

later.....

"Irv" wrote in message
...
hey Charles

hopefully, these links combined will get you going.
looks like special stuff for that printer when using win2k.
good luck.


http://www.whoopis.com/howtos/laserwriter16-600/

http://cag.csail.mit.edu/~mtaylor/7300N

http://www-jerry.oit.duke.edu/commun...p_printer.html

https://webserver.brandeis.edu/pages...etworkPrinting


"***** charles" wrote in message
. net...
Hi all,

I have a Laserwriter 16/600PS that is connected to my lan
with ethernet. I also have a Windows 2000 Pro machine
that I have to get to print to this thing. How do I determine
the IP address of the printer? and How do I set up 2K
to print to the thing?

thanks a bunch,
charles......








  #6  
Old December 3rd 06, 12:52 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
jasee
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Posts: 68
Default Printing to a net printer?

"***** charles" wrote in message
t...
Thanks for the links. Some I had already seen. None say how to get
the IP address of the printer. Chicken and egg problem - you have
to know the ip to manage the ip. I have no MacIntosh computers so
I can't use the printer utility about which they speak. I don't have a
Windows 95 machine either. There seems to be a utility program that
runs on 95 but I don't think it works with 2000.
I have had the printer connected to the 2000 machine with the parallel
port and the proper driver was loaded. It has printed pages out before
but now it just sits there and doesn't respond when I send a print job
to it. Eventually it just times out and gives me a printing error.
That's
when I thought that switching to a network link might work.


It's possible that the parallel port connection within the printer may be
faulty, but a network connection may work, but have you tried replacing the
cable and tightening the connections? Will the printer print out a test page
correctly?

I have
tried disconnecting and reconnecting, unloading and reloading drivers
and no response for the parrallel connection. I installed the unix
printing stuff about which the articles speak but untill I know the IP
address of the printer, I am stuck.


It can be difficult, you don't say whether you you connect to it directly.
Or via a seperate print server.
If a print server, then the problem may remain if the parallel port
connection within the printer is faulty.

If there is a network connection on the printer. You may find a button near
the network card which if pressed (briefly) will print out a configuration
page which should show an ip address. Alternatively, you may be able just to
get the printer to print out it's configuration just by turning it on with
one button pressed. Depending on the printer.

Then, look for an ip address, if the ip address is 0.0.0.0, look for a MAC
address. If the ip address is set to anything other than 0.0.0.0, then put
your computer in that range and simply http://the printer's ip adresss,
where you can simply change it to one in the range you usually use.
If the address is 0.0.0.0, then the easiest way is to get a utility from HP

http://h20338.www2.hp.com/hpsub/cach...0-225-121.html

If the link does not work, then you should search for Web Jetadmin. Jetadmin
(the previous version) worked a lot better, but for some reason everything
must be java nowadays! This is a program which will find locally connected
printers from their ip address or MAC address, then you can use it connect
to the network card and set a useful ip address.

Theoretically, these types of printers should set their own network address.
It is usually a matter of resetting the card to it's defaults. However it
sometimes picks a stupid address.


  #7  
Old December 3rd 06, 03:21 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
***** charles
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Posts: 69
Default Printing to a net printer?

Well I finally got the two pages to print that I needed. I usually leave
the printer turned on all the time but this morning I decided to turn it
off for several hours. That allowed it to print when I tried just a
couple of minutes ago. I guess it was just to hot for a long time.
For the network part that printer is just hooked directly to my Linksys
WRT54G just like the computer with an ethernet cable. Never did
get that link to work. It printed through the parallel cable. I got it for
50 bucks so I am not about to spend money on getting a mac computer
just to manage it. My printing needs are just a couple of pages a
month and now a days one can buy a new printer from WalMart for
$29. That's cheaper that getting refill cartridges for a jet type printer.
I would still like to get the printer to print through my net if I can do it
with the hardware I have. I have learned one thing and that is if I get
another lan printer it must have the ability to manage it with an
onboard keypad and lcd output independently of any computer system.
By the way the two pages were of architectural drawings of apartments
that my contractor needs for a project and I told him I would give them
to him this morning so I dodged the silver bullet this time.
Thanks for all your help and research. Someone should write up a little
tutorial on how to do what I am attempting but that probably won't
happen since all this stuff is out of date and not supported anymore.
I even tried NMAP to scan my network and it didn't pick up anything.
My net cables are all tested good.
My monitor went bad last night luckily I had another to replace it.
Sometimes the bear gets you and sometimes you get the bear.

later.....

"Irv" wrote in message
.. .
maybe you can look at the connections table on the router and see if an
addfress is missing.
i know that our router skips the addresses assigned to printers.
does the printer have a display.

i would try the win 95 program.
there is a way you can tell windows to run it as a win95 program so maybe
you can get somewhere after all.


"***** charles" wrote in message
t...
Thanks for the links. Some I had already seen. None say how to get
the IP address of the printer. Chicken and egg problem - you have
to know the ip to manage the ip. I have no MacIntosh computers so
I can't use the printer utility about which they speak. I don't have a
Windows 95 machine either. There seems to be a utility program that
runs on 95 but I don't think it works with 2000.
I have had the printer connected to the 2000 machine with the parallel
port and the proper driver was loaded. It has printed pages out before
but now it just sits there and doesn't respond when I send a print job
to it. Eventually it just times out and gives me a printing error.
That's
when I thought that switching to a network link might work. I have
tried disconnecting and reconnecting, unloading and reloading drivers
and no response for the parrallel connection. I installed the unix
printing stuff about which the articles speak but untill I know the IP
address of the printer, I am stuck.

later.....

"Irv" wrote in message
...
hey Charles

hopefully, these links combined will get you going.
looks like special stuff for that printer when using win2k.
good luck.


http://www.whoopis.com/howtos/laserwriter16-600/

http://cag.csail.mit.edu/~mtaylor/7300N

http://www-jerry.oit.duke.edu/commun...p_printer.html

https://webserver.brandeis.edu/pages...etworkPrinting


"***** charles" wrote in message
. net...
Hi all,

I have a Laserwriter 16/600PS that is connected to my lan
with ethernet. I also have a Windows 2000 Pro machine
that I have to get to print to this thing. How do I determine
the IP address of the printer? and How do I set up 2K
to print to the thing?

thanks a bunch,
charles......










  #8  
Old December 3rd 06, 03:26 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
***** charles
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Posts: 69
Default Printing to a net printer?

Thanks for the post. The configuration is Windows 2000 Pro machine
connected to a Linksys WRT54G with ethernet cable and an Apple
Laserwriter 16/600 PS connected to the WRT54G with an ethernet
cable and adapter. The printer only has the original 8M of ram, no
print managers. I would still like to get it to work if I don't have to
buy anything else but I got my two pages I needed, see other post.

later......

"jasee" wrote in message
...
"***** charles" wrote in message
t...
Thanks for the links. Some I had already seen. None say how to get
the IP address of the printer. Chicken and egg problem - you have
to know the ip to manage the ip. I have no MacIntosh computers so
I can't use the printer utility about which they speak. I don't have a
Windows 95 machine either. There seems to be a utility program that
runs on 95 but I don't think it works with 2000.
I have had the printer connected to the 2000 machine with the parallel
port and the proper driver was loaded. It has printed pages out before
but now it just sits there and doesn't respond when I send a print job
to it. Eventually it just times out and gives me a printing error.
That's
when I thought that switching to a network link might work.


It's possible that the parallel port connection within the printer may be
faulty, but a network connection may work, but have you tried replacing

the
cable and tightening the connections? Will the printer print out a test

page
correctly?

I have
tried disconnecting and reconnecting, unloading and reloading drivers
and no response for the parrallel connection. I installed the unix
printing stuff about which the articles speak but untill I know the IP
address of the printer, I am stuck.


It can be difficult, you don't say whether you you connect to it directly.
Or via a seperate print server.
If a print server, then the problem may remain if the parallel port
connection within the printer is faulty.

If there is a network connection on the printer. You may find a button

near
the network card which if pressed (briefly) will print out a configuration
page which should show an ip address. Alternatively, you may be able just

to
get the printer to print out it's configuration just by turning it on with
one button pressed. Depending on the printer.

Then, look for an ip address, if the ip address is 0.0.0.0, look for a MAC
address. If the ip address is set to anything other than 0.0.0.0, then put
your computer in that range and simply http://the printer's ip adresss,
where you can simply change it to one in the range you usually use.
If the address is 0.0.0.0, then the easiest way is to get a utility from

HP

http://h20338.www2.hp.com/hpsub/cach...0-225-121.html

If the link does not work, then you should search for Web Jetadmin.

Jetadmin
(the previous version) worked a lot better, but for some reason everything
must be java nowadays! This is a program which will find locally connected
printers from their ip address or MAC address, then you can use it connect
to the network card and set a useful ip address.

Theoretically, these types of printers should set their own network

address.
It is usually a matter of resetting the card to it's defaults. However it
sometimes picks a stupid address.




  #9  
Old December 3rd 06, 03:38 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
jasee
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Default Printing to a net printer?

***** charles wrote:
Thanks for the post. The configuration is Windows 2000 Pro machine
connected to a Linksys WRT54G with ethernet cable and an Apple
Laserwriter 16/600 PS connected to the WRT54G with an ethernet
cable and adapter.

^^^^^^^

What is this (has it a name or number) like jetdirect****?


  #10  
Old December 3rd 06, 03:43 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
ZR
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Default Printing to a net printer?

Hi all,

I have a Laserwriter 16/600PS that is connected to my lan
with ethernet. I also have a Windows 2000 Pro machine
that I have to get to print to this thing. How do I determine
the IP address of the printer? and How do I set up 2K
to print to the thing?


The IP address of the printer is usually assigned by the router and you
should be able to find it in your router. Your router needs to be setup to
automatically assign address to device.

In windows, just go to "Add Printer = Network Printer = Browse", you
should see your printer listed on the network, assuming it's connected and
setup (automatically) properly.

Your printer driver installation disc should have a way to find it.


 




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