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Itanium question.
Hi all,
This was the closest newsgroup I could find so here goes. The current cpu's in an IBM Intelistation Z 6894-1RZ are first gen 800 MYz ones. What is the fastest version of the Itanium can one put in these machines? thanks, charles...... |
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Itanium question.
* ***** charles:
This was the closest newsgroup I could find so here goes. The current cpu's in an IBM Intelistation Z 6894-1RZ That's an intel OEM box. The same was sold as SGI 750 and HP i2000. All had different case colours and labels but are technically identical. I still have an HP i2000 here... are first gen 800 MYz ones. What is the fastest version of the Itanium can one put in these machines? The ones with 800MHz with 4MB Cache. That's the limit. Faster CPUs are Itanium2 already, requiring different sockets, different chipsets and such... BTW: the 460GX chipset in these machines has some bugs which prevent them from doing 3D acceleration with most gfx cards. Besides that, current Linux versions don't support Itanium any more (just Itanium2) so you're stuck with older Linux, Windowsxp Professional 64bit Edition (EOL'd), Windows Server 2003 64bit Edition, or HP-UX 11i v1.5 or v1.6... Benjamin |
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Itanium question.
"Benjamin Gawert" wrote in message
... * ***** charles: This was the closest newsgroup I could find so here goes. The current cpu's in an IBM Intelistation Z 6894-1RZ That's an intel OEM box. The same was sold as SGI 750 and HP i2000. All had different case colours and labels but are technically identical. I still have an HP i2000 here... are first gen 800 MYz ones. What is the fastest version of the Itanium can one put in these machines? The ones with 800MHz with 4MB Cache. That's the limit. Faster CPUs are Itanium2 already, requiring different sockets, different chipsets and such... BTW: the 460GX chipset in these machines has some bugs which prevent them from doing 3D acceleration with most gfx cards. Besides that, current Linux versions don't support Itanium any more (just Itanium2) so you're stuck with older Linux, Windowsxp Professional 64bit Edition (EOL'd), Windows Server 2003 64bit Edition, or HP-UX 11i v1.5 or v1.6... Benjamin The latest version of FreeBSD says it supports both Itanium and Itanium2. Please list latest versions of Linux that do not boot/install on older Itaniums spcifically. SuSE, RH etc....? Because of what you said above, I passed on buying an IBM Itanium system for about $200 so I hope you can backup your proposition. thanks, charles..... |
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Itanium question.
* ***** charles:
The latest version of FreeBSD says it supports both Itanium and Itanium2. Right, but these are the only free operating systems. Please list latest versions of Linux that do not boot/install on older Itaniums spcifically. SuSE, RH etc....? Latest SuSE for Itanium is SuSE 7.something (7.1?), latest Redhat is 7.3. Because of what you said above, I passed on buying an IBM Itanium system for about $200 so I hope you can backup your proposition. 200$ for a 7 year old Itanium machine isn't really a bargain... Benjamin |
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Itanium question.
Benjamin Gawert wrote:
* ***** charles: The latest version of FreeBSD says it supports both Itanium and Itanium2. Right, but these are the only free operating systems. Please list latest versions of Linux that do not boot/install on older Itaniums spcifically. SuSE, RH etc....? Latest SuSE for Itanium is SuSE 7.something (7.1?), latest Redhat is 7.3. Because of what you said above, I passed on buying an IBM Itanium system for about $200 so I hope you can backup your proposition. 200$ for a 7 year old Itanium machine isn't really a bargain... Benjamin It might have made a decent space heater for the coming winter. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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Itanium question.
Benjamin Gawert wrote:
BTW: the 460GX chipset in these machines has some bugs which prevent them from doing 3D acceleration with most gfx cards. Besides that, current Linux versions don't support Itanium any more (just Itanium2) so you're stuck with older Linux, Windowsxp Professional 64bit Edition (EOL'd), Windows Server 2003 64bit Edition, or HP-UX 11i v1.5 or v1.6... I was never certain if all those merced-based systems were sufficiently "identical" that HP-UX would boot/run on the non-HP versions or not. Regardless, I think that while 11iv1.5 (aka 11.20) and 11iv1.6 (aka 11.22) might run on the rx4610, i2000 and rx9610 those OSes themselves are no longer "supported" (IIRC). rick jones -- The glass is neither half-empty nor half-full. The glass has a leak. The real question is "Can it be patched?" these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... feel free to post, OR email to rick.jones2 in hp.com but NOT BOTH... |
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Itanium question.
***** charles wrote:
The latest version of FreeBSD says it supports both Itanium and Itanium2. Please list latest versions of Linux that do not boot/install on older Itaniums spcifically. SuSE, RH etc....? Because of what you said above, I passed on buying an IBM Itanium system for about $200 so I hope you can backup your proposition. For experimentation/play/fun/whatever with Itanium, and sticking with the used market, I'd probably suggest one of: HP zx2000 HP zx6000 HP rx1600 HP rx2600 Whatever SGI has/had as Itanium2-based systems The "current" versions of the rx1600 and rx2600 are the rx1620 and rx2620. The the zx's were "workstations." The rx's are "servers." The rx2600 and rx2620 have what are called "OFS" or Office Friendly Server configurations that include pedestal mounts and quieter fans. Depending on the OS, either 2D or some 3D graphics are supported in those. rick jones -- oxymoron n, Hummer H2 with California Save Our Coasts and Oceans plates these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... feel free to post, OR email to rick.jones2 in hp.com but NOT BOTH... |
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Itanium question.
Benjamin Gawert wrote:
* ***** charles: The latest version of FreeBSD says it supports both Itanium and Itanium2. Right, but these are the only free operating systems. Please list latest versions of Linux that do not boot/install on older Itaniums spcifically. SuSE, RH etc....? Latest SuSE for Itanium is SuSE 7.something (7.1?), latest Redhat is 7.3. Because of what you said above, I passed on buying an IBM Itanium system for about $200 so I hope you can backup your proposition. 200$ for a 7 year old Itanium machine isn't really a bargain... Benjamin It might just be; wha was the original price of the sucker? -- regards , Peter B. P. - http://titancity.com/blog http://markedspartiet.dk, http://macplanet.dk http://siad.dk |
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Itanium question.
Peter Bjørn Perlsø wrote:
Benjamin Gawert wrote: * ***** charles: The latest version of FreeBSD says it supports both Itanium and Itanium2. Right, but these are the only free operating systems. Please list latest versions of Linux that do not boot/install on older Itaniums spcifically. SuSE, RH etc....? Latest SuSE for Itanium is SuSE 7.something (7.1?), latest Redhat is 7.3. Because of what you said above, I passed on buying an IBM Itanium system for about $200 so I hope you can backup your proposition. 200$ for a 7 year old Itanium machine isn't really a bargain... Benjamin It might just be; wha was the original price of the sucker? I don't think that's relevant, a seven year old PC has some use because it can run non-demanding tasks. An obsolete formerly high performance workstation is just obsolete, there probably aren't any non-demanding tasks of interest. Other than people wanting to run Linux for the fun of it, which doesn't create much market demand. Old computers are often sold by the pound, for salvage value rather than any useful purpose. I was surprised to learn that my old S100 computers are now collectable and in demand again. Who would have thought? -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot |
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Itanium question.
* Rick Jones:
I was never certain if all those merced-based systems were sufficiently "identical" that HP-UX would boot/run on the non-HP versions or not. They were 100% identical with the only difference being the color of the case. Funny thing is that the SGI 750 (SGIs version of this intel dual Itanium workstation) at that time was the fastest system SGI offered. Like all the other clones it ran HP-UX just fine... Regardless, I think that while 11iv1.5 (aka 11.20) and 11iv1.6 (aka 11.22) might run on the rx4610, i2000 and rx9610 those OSes themselves are no longer "supported" (IIRC). Right, all these releases are EOL'd. For hobby purposes a HP i2000 or one of the other OEM systems makes a nice system (it's still quite fast in the fp department), but for production use it's just obsolete. Benjamin |
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