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Call their Tech support or email them they respond well. If the memory is a
standard format they should be able to help. Tom "Winey" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 May 2004 07:36:43 GMT, "Tom" wrote: Crucial memory they make their own chips as well as assemble the DIMM etc. The only US company to do both Larry, True enough, but the Crucial web site does not list a part for this printer. This is the result I got back from a search: Sorry, your search for "ML-2150" returned no results, please try again. Is it possible that another printer model uses the same memory type as the Samsung, but Crucial doesn't know that? "Larry" wrote in message news:4x6qc.43075$pJ1.2767@lakeread02... It's there, but I don't use it much... Looks fine to me -Larry "Rob" wrote in message ... "Larry" wrote: All, I recently purchased a Samsung ML-2151N Network Laser Printer. I've printed close to 1000 pages, nearly all duplexed, and it has performed flawlessly. However it became clear early on that, especially with duplexing enabled, the standard 16MB of RAM was not going to cut it. There were long delays between pages as it rendered the next one. I purchased the appropriate 128MB memory upgrade from SimpleTech. Their part number S128N3NDC1. This is the module called out in their Memory Locator on their web site. The memory was installed, works fine, and the intended result is apparant. The printer prints at full speed with zero delays for rendering between pages, even when using the duplexer. There is one minor problem. The printer is reporting the Module as a 256MB module instead of a 128MB module. It shows 272MB installed instead of the proper 144MB. The module is positively a 128MB module. No mistakes there. I wrote SimpleTech's Tech Support and got, well, simple (and useless) responses. The first response basically said 'Yeah, we've seen that before' and then the email ENDED! I wrote back asking what I should do. Their second response was basically 'Just use it, the incorrect reporting won't affect the performance of the memory'. Sheesh I've written Samsungs tech support. Not sure how long it will take to get a reply. Has anyone else seen this problem? The printer is working perfectly. I've seen no ill-effects, but you can understand why this bugs me. I've been in the computer/electronics repair business for 25 years and this sort of thing just doesn't sit well with me. There HAS to be a reason why this is happening and I want to know what it is Other than this issue, the printer has performed flawlessly. I shopped around quite a bit, and no one else could touch the value. 21PPM, automatic duplexing standard, postscript standard, 500 sheet tray + 150 sheet tray for $449 is a steal compared to the others. Yes, the manuals suck and it was a BEAR to figure out how to set up on a Mac I've got on the Network because of the poor documentation, but once past that there have been zero issues. Thanks -Larry Do you use PostScript? I do so I'm interested in the quality of Samsung's emulation. Rob |
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Yeah, it's amazing isn't it
-Larry "Winey" wrote in message ... On Mon, 17 May 2004 13:37:22 -0400, "Larry" wrote: I received a reply from Samsung. Amazingly, it's even more useless than what I got from SimpleTech... "The ML-2151N MUST use a Samsung memory module.Other modules are NOT supported.Part number for the 128MB module is ML-00MD/XAA.You can purchase this module from Samsung accessories at 800-459-3272." I just did a Google search on this Samsung part number. (Their own web site is useless.) One of the first Google sites to pop up gave me this comparison: http://shopping.yahoo.com/p_samsung-...ram_1991244614 It seems weird that except for this one store Kahlon (more about later) all the stores were charging above $400 for this memory upgrade! On other sites, I found prices up to $800!! For a printer that costs only $500 or so??? Kahlon's price was only $32.00, but if you check them on www.resellerratings.com your hair will stand on end! Their ratings was 4.42 and I normally never buy from vendors rated under 6.00. http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2005.html What is going on here? Is there a decent online seller who carries this module at a reasonable price? I'm sure I can... Why don't they just say "All your money are belong to us" ? -Larry |
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Yeah, it _seems_ to work ok, but that's not the point
-Larry "Winey" wrote in message ... On Tue, 18 May 2004 08:55:58 +0100, Peter wrote: "The ML-2151N MUST use a Samsung memory module.Other modules are NOT supported.Part number for the 128MB module is ML-00MD/XAA.You can purchase this module from Samsung accessories at 800-459-3272." [snip] If it's any consolation we have never been able to get 3rd party memory to work in Samsung 2150 range of printers, apparently they use a really old spec. of memory. We've tried lots of suppliers who all claim to have memory that works but after they have supplied us with 4 or 5 different dimms they always admit they can't. To the Original Poster: Regardless of what size memory the printer reports, does it work as intended? That is, do pages render faster? To Peter: What does "does not work" really mean. Not usable at all, works only partially, or simply reports back as the wrong size? Peter http://www.printerbase.co.uk I just bought a 2152W (the W for the future) and I have the printer hooked up to my home LAN. Wow, what a great printer for the money! I paid US $ 375 with shipping, from a seller on EBay. |
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That was my first call. They do not carry it for this printer.
-Larry "Tom" wrote in message ... Crucial memory they make their own chips as well as assemble the DIMM etc. The only US company to do both "Larry" wrote in message news:4x6qc.43075$pJ1.2767@lakeread02... It's there, but I don't use it much... Looks fine to me -Larry "Rob" wrote in message ... "Larry" wrote: All, I recently purchased a Samsung ML-2151N Network Laser Printer. I've printed close to 1000 pages, nearly all duplexed, and it has performed flawlessly. However it became clear early on that, especially with duplexing enabled, the standard 16MB of RAM was not going to cut it. There were long delays between pages as it rendered the next one. I purchased the appropriate 128MB memory upgrade from SimpleTech. Their part number S128N3NDC1. This is the module called out in their Memory Locator on their web site. The memory was installed, works fine, and the intended result is apparant. The printer prints at full speed with zero delays for rendering between pages, even when using the duplexer. There is one minor problem. The printer is reporting the Module as a 256MB module instead of a 128MB module. It shows 272MB installed instead of the proper 144MB. The module is positively a 128MB module. No mistakes there. I wrote SimpleTech's Tech Support and got, well, simple (and useless) responses. The first response basically said 'Yeah, we've seen that before' and then the email ENDED! I wrote back asking what I should do. Their second response was basically 'Just use it, the incorrect reporting won't affect the performance of the memory'. Sheesh I've written Samsungs tech support. Not sure how long it will take to get a reply. Has anyone else seen this problem? The printer is working perfectly. I've seen no ill-effects, but you can understand why this bugs me. I've been in the computer/electronics repair business for 25 years and this sort of thing just doesn't sit well with me. There HAS to be a reason why this is happening and I want to know what it is Other than this issue, the printer has performed flawlessly. I shopped around quite a bit, and no one else could touch the value. 21PPM, automatic duplexing standard, postscript standard, 500 sheet tray + 150 sheet tray for $449 is a steal compared to the others. Yes, the manuals suck and it was a BEAR to figure out how to set up on a Mac I've got on the Network because of the poor documentation, but once past that there have been zero issues. Thanks -Larry Do you use PostScript? I do so I'm interested in the quality of Samsung's emulation. Rob |
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I did that. They stated they cannot supply the module.
-Larry "Tom" wrote in message ... Call their Tech support or email them they respond well. If the memory is a standard format they should be able to help. Tom "Winey" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 May 2004 07:36:43 GMT, "Tom" wrote: Crucial memory they make their own chips as well as assemble the DIMM etc. The only US company to do both Larry, True enough, but the Crucial web site does not list a part for this printer. This is the result I got back from a search: Sorry, your search for "ML-2150" returned no results, please try again. Is it possible that another printer model uses the same memory type as the Samsung, but Crucial doesn't know that? "Larry" wrote in message news:4x6qc.43075$pJ1.2767@lakeread02... It's there, but I don't use it much... Looks fine to me -Larry "Rob" wrote in message ... "Larry" wrote: All, I recently purchased a Samsung ML-2151N Network Laser Printer. I've printed close to 1000 pages, nearly all duplexed, and it has performed flawlessly. However it became clear early on that, especially with duplexing enabled, the standard 16MB of RAM was not going to cut it. There were long delays between pages as it rendered the next one. I purchased the appropriate 128MB memory upgrade from SimpleTech. Their part number S128N3NDC1. This is the module called out in their Memory Locator on their web site. The memory was installed, works fine, and the intended result is apparant. The printer prints at full speed with zero delays for rendering between pages, even when using the duplexer. There is one minor problem. The printer is reporting the Module as a 256MB module instead of a 128MB module. It shows 272MB installed instead of the proper 144MB. The module is positively a 128MB module. No mistakes there. I wrote SimpleTech's Tech Support and got, well, simple (and useless) responses. The first response basically said 'Yeah, we've seen that before' and then the email ENDED! I wrote back asking what I should do. Their second response was basically 'Just use it, the incorrect reporting won't affect the performance of the memory'. Sheesh I've written Samsungs tech support. Not sure how long it will take to get a reply. Has anyone else seen this problem? The printer is working perfectly. I've seen no ill-effects, but you can understand why this bugs me. I've been in the computer/electronics repair business for 25 years and this sort of thing just doesn't sit well with me. There HAS to be a reason why this is happening and I want to know what it is Other than this issue, the printer has performed flawlessly. I shopped around quite a bit, and no one else could touch the value. 21PPM, automatic duplexing standard, postscript standard, 500 sheet tray + 150 sheet tray for $449 is a steal compared to the others. Yes, the manuals suck and it was a BEAR to figure out how to set up on a Mac I've got on the Network because of the poor documentation, but once past that there have been zero issues. Thanks -Larry Do you use PostScript? I do so I'm interested in the quality of Samsung's emulation. Rob |
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Any updates to this situation? I purchased memory for the ML-2152W
from www.4allmemory.com and www.kahlon.com, both claimed to be compatible with the ML-00MD/XAA 128MB part. Neither works. The one from 4allmemory gave me a TSKROOT 0983 error (?) and the one from kahlon is just not recognized. I sent a couple of e-mails back and forth with Samsung regarding availability. Samsung themselves lists the part as special order with 2+ week ETA and a price of $499 - conservatively a 400-900% markup. They are the only manufacturer as well. They were unable to give me the contact info for a retailer who had any stock of the actual Samsung part. So, basically, they are the only ones making them, and they're not making them... Oh, and they're barring third-parties from making them too... Service like that makes me want to line right up for another Samsung printer. I've ordered the simpletech upgrade just to get something that works, albeit not 100%. If you haven't seen any problems other than the memory sizing issue, I'd be willing to deal with that, or at least more willing than handing over $500 for a perfectly working upgrade.. Anybody else had success with the simpletech upgrade? "Larry" wrote in message news:E0Jtc.142$Y21.92@lakeread02... Yeah, it _seems_ to work ok, but that's not the point -Larry "Winey" wrote in message ... On Tue, 18 May 2004 08:55:58 +0100, Peter wrote: "The ML-2151N MUST use a Samsung memory module.Other modules are NOT supported.Part number for the 128MB module is ML-00MD/XAA.You can purchase this module from Samsung accessories at 800-459-3272." [snip] If it's any consolation we have never been able to get 3rd party memory to work in Samsung 2150 range of printers, apparently they use a really old spec. of memory. We've tried lots of suppliers who all claim to have memory that works but after they have supplied us with 4 or 5 different dimms they always admit they can't. To the Original Poster: Regardless of what size memory the printer reports, does it work as intended? That is, do pages render faster? To Peter: What does "does not work" really mean. Not usable at all, works only partially, or simply reports back as the wrong size? Peter http://www.printerbase.co.uk I just bought a 2152W (the W for the future) and I have the printer hooked up to my home LAN. Wow, what a great printer for the money! I paid US $ 375 with shipping, from a seller on EBay. |
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Rob:
I'd be grateful if you could post some data regarding the Samsung supplied DIMM that came with the printer as well as for the two 3rd-party DIMMs you tried. The Samsung has four SDRAM chips on the DIMM, correct? What about the other two? For any given SDRAM chip on each DIMM, what is everything that is screened/stamped onto it? (I'm trying to figure out the manufacturer and P/N of each.) I've seen the Kahlon claim as well and hoped it would be a solution for the CLP-550. It appears as though it will not be. If you've returned it already, how have they been regarding processing your return? (Larry - I'd be grateful if you could post the same chip data for your SimpleTech DIMM.) Thanks. Regards, Corey J. Motel (Rob C) wrote in message . com... Any updates to this situation? I purchased memory for the ML-2152W from www.4allmemory.com and www.kahlon.com, both claimed to be compatible with the ML-00MD/XAA 128MB part. Neither works. The one from 4allmemory gave me a TSKROOT 0983 error (?) and the one from kahlon is just not recognized. |
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On 15 Jun 2004 12:58:12 -0700, (Rob C) wrote:
The only difference that I've seen between the Kahlon DIMM and the Simpletech DIMM is that the Simpletech is a CL 2, while the Kahlon is CL 3. Although I don't know the contents of the SPD EEPROM, and that may be the deciding factor. I ordered the Simpletech DIMM. ~$66 shipped through Amazon. After Sure beats those $400 + prices I saw on some web sites!! installation, my printer thinks it's got 272Mbyte just like the original poster. Sounds good enough. Have you ever tried to spool more than 144 MB of print jobs to the printer? Does it store more than this amount of print jobs? (Do you really have a 256 MB upgrade, both in the hardware AND supported by the printer firmware?!??!!?? I can find only one error so far caused by the upgrade. When in the configuration section of the menu, printing the EPSON font list produces a print-out with all kinds of data corruption. Remove the DIMM and the problem goes away. Otherwise, everything else works fine. I'm unlikely to use the EPSON emulation, so I don't perceive it to be a problem. PCL prints fine, as does PostScript. That's the important stuff. I'm not sure I'm entirely happy with this printer. I'm seeing frequent paper jams, and now my fuser assembly seems to have died in a couple of spots. We'll see.. I have had the same printer (2152W model) for almost two months, with zero paper jams, including a fair amount of double-sided printing. (Corey J. Motel) wrote in message . com... Rob: I'd be grateful if you could post some data regarding the Samsung supplied DIMM that came with the printer as well as for the two 3rd-party DIMMs you tried. The Samsung has four SDRAM chips on the DIMM, correct? What about the other two? For any given SDRAM chip on each DIMM, what is everything that is screened/stamped onto it? (I'm trying to figure out the manufacturer and P/N of each.) I've seen the Kahlon claim as well and hoped it would be a solution for the CLP-550. It appears as though it will not be. If you've returned it already, how have they been regarding processing your return? (Larry - I'd be grateful if you could post the same chip data for your SimpleTech DIMM.) Thanks. Regards, Corey J. Motel (Rob C) wrote in message . com... Any updates to this situation? I purchased memory for the ML-2152W from www.4allmemory.com and www.kahlon.com, both claimed to be compatible with the ML-00MD/XAA 128MB part. Neither works. The one from 4allmemory gave me a TSKROOT 0983 error (?) and the one from kahlon is just not recognized. |
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No, the situation is the same.
SimpleTech says "Live with it". Samsung says "Only our Modules work right". There is no doubt Samsung screwed up a simple memory standard to push their own memory module. I will not forget this the next time it comes to buy a printer. It won't be a Samsung. The SimpleTech appears to work. Duplexing is now at full speed. Add this with the 1/2 full toner in the box and it adds up to the last Samsung printer I'll ever buy, and given the support I've received, possibly the last Samsung product at all I'll ever buy. -Larry "Rob C" wrote in message om... Any updates to this situation? I purchased memory for the ML-2152W from www.4allmemory.com and www.kahlon.com, both claimed to be compatible with the ML-00MD/XAA 128MB part. Neither works. The one from 4allmemory gave me a TSKROOT 0983 error (?) and the one from kahlon is just not recognized. I sent a couple of e-mails back and forth with Samsung regarding availability. Samsung themselves lists the part as special order with 2+ week ETA and a price of $499 - conservatively a 400-900% markup. They are the only manufacturer as well. They were unable to give me the contact info for a retailer who had any stock of the actual Samsung part. So, basically, they are the only ones making them, and they're not making them... Oh, and they're barring third-parties from making them too... Service like that makes me want to line right up for another Samsung printer. I've ordered the simpletech upgrade just to get something that works, albeit not 100%. If you haven't seen any problems other than the memory sizing issue, I'd be willing to deal with that, or at least more willing than handing over $500 for a perfectly working upgrade.. Anybody else had success with the simpletech upgrade? "Larry" wrote in message news:E0Jtc.142$Y21.92@lakeread02... Yeah, it _seems_ to work ok, but that's not the point -Larry "Winey" wrote in message ... On Tue, 18 May 2004 08:55:58 +0100, Peter wrote: "The ML-2151N MUST use a Samsung memory module.Other modules are NOT supported.Part number for the 128MB module is ML-00MD/XAA.You can purchase this module from Samsung accessories at 800-459-3272." [snip] If it's any consolation we have never been able to get 3rd party memory to work in Samsung 2150 range of printers, apparently they use a really old spec. of memory. We've tried lots of suppliers who all claim to have memory that works but after they have supplied us with 4 or 5 different dimms they always admit they can't. To the Original Poster: Regardless of what size memory the printer reports, does it work as intended? That is, do pages render faster? To Peter: What does "does not work" really mean. Not usable at all, works only partially, or simply reports back as the wrong size? Peter http://www.printerbase.co.uk I just bought a 2152W (the W for the future) and I have the printer hooked up to my home LAN. Wow, what a great printer for the money! I paid US $ 375 with shipping, from a seller on EBay. |
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