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Old February 13th 04, 02:34 PM
Gavin Bell
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Can I attach a new Graphics Card rated at AGP 8X into my (ageing)
motherboard, which only supports 2X AGP ?

Graphics card under consideration -

GeForceFX 5200 128MB DDR AGP RP DVI VO
Available from DABS @ £40.00 inc VAT (£34.05 ex VAT)
manufacturer code I-5200-F3E3V
quicklinx 2GM9WS


My motherboard is a TMC Socket 7 VIA MVP3 ATX board with an AMD K6-2 500Mhz
cpu and 384Mb RAM.

I also have an ATI Xpert@Play98 graphics card (8Mb) which is not able to run
some recent games which need a 16Mb Graphics card with DirectX 8.1

Also - I'm pretty sure that I have 184 pin DIMMS in my current MB. If I am
upgrading to a new MB, would I be able to re-use them? Can anyone suggest a
MB which supports the AMD Athlon cpu, and will have at least 3 memory slots?

Thanks.

Gavin



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Old February 13th 04, 03:27 PM
scott
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Gavin Bell wrote:
Can I attach a new Graphics Card rated at AGP 8X into my (ageing)
motherboard, which only supports 2X AGP ?


Yes, they are backwards compatible. I have just put an 8x card into my 4x
mobo and it's working fine at 4x. Most people say there isn't any
difference between 4x and 8x, not sure about 2x to 4x though.

Graphics card under consideration -

GeForceFX 5200 128MB DDR AGP RP DVI VO
Available from DABS @ £40.00 inc VAT (£34.05 ex VAT)
manufacturer code I-5200-F3E3V
quicklinx 2GM9WS


My motherboard is a TMC Socket 7 VIA MVP3 ATX board with an AMD K6-2
500Mhz cpu and 384Mb RAM.

I also have an ATI Xpert@Play98 graphics card (8Mb) which is not able
to run some recent games which need a 16Mb Graphics card with DirectX
8.1

Also - I'm pretty sure that I have 184 pin DIMMS in my current MB. If
I am upgrading to a new MB, would I be able to re-use them? Can
anyone suggest a MB which supports the AMD Athlon cpu, and will have
at least 3 memory slots?


Most mobos now have at least 3 slots. If you did get a new one you'd want
to buy new faster ram anyway. Depends how much money you have to spend, if
you do get a new mobo, processor and ram, you'll likely want to get a better
video card than the FX5200.

HTH

Scott


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Old February 13th 04, 03:45 PM
Gavin Bell
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What's wrong with that particular Graphics card?

What one would you recommend, given that I'm on a limited budget?

Thanks!
"scott" wrote in message
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Gavin Bell wrote:
Can I attach a new Graphics Card rated at AGP 8X into my (ageing)
motherboard, which only supports 2X AGP ?


Yes, they are backwards compatible. I have just put an 8x card into my 4x
mobo and it's working fine at 4x. Most people say there isn't any
difference between 4x and 8x, not sure about 2x to 4x though.

Graphics card under consideration -

GeForceFX 5200 128MB DDR AGP RP DVI VO
Available from DABS @ £40.00 inc VAT (£34.05 ex VAT)
manufacturer code I-5200-F3E3V
quicklinx 2GM9WS


My motherboard is a TMC Socket 7 VIA MVP3 ATX board with an AMD K6-2
500Mhz cpu and 384Mb RAM.

I also have an ATI Xpert@Play98 graphics card (8Mb) which is not able
to run some recent games which need a 16Mb Graphics card with DirectX
8.1

Also - I'm pretty sure that I have 184 pin DIMMS in my current MB. If
I am upgrading to a new MB, would I be able to re-use them? Can
anyone suggest a MB which supports the AMD Athlon cpu, and will have
at least 3 memory slots?


Most mobos now have at least 3 slots. If you did get a new one you'd want
to buy new faster ram anyway. Depends how much money you have to spend,

if
you do get a new mobo, processor and ram, you'll likely want to get a

better
video card than the FX5200.

HTH

Scott




  #4  
Old February 13th 04, 04:13 PM
Gary Tait
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:45:44 +0000 (UTC), "Gavin Bell"
wrote:

What's wrong with that particular Graphics card?

It is lacking.

What one would you recommend, given that I'm on a limited budget?


Maybe look for a GF3 Ti200, or a GF4 ti4200. Or consider saving for an
FX5600.
You will gain some, but to really appreciate a modern 3D card, you
need at least a 1 Ghz system.

Thanks!
"scott" wrote in message
...
Gavin Bell wrote:
Can I attach a new Graphics Card rated at AGP 8X into my (ageing)
motherboard, which only supports 2X AGP ?


Yes, they are backwards compatible. I have just put an 8x card into my 4x
mobo and it's working fine at 4x. Most people say there isn't any
difference between 4x and 8x, not sure about 2x to 4x though.

Graphics card under consideration -

GeForceFX 5200 128MB DDR AGP RP DVI VO
Available from DABS @ £40.00 inc VAT (£34.05 ex VAT)
manufacturer code I-5200-F3E3V
quicklinx 2GM9WS


My motherboard is a TMC Socket 7 VIA MVP3 ATX board with an AMD K6-2
500Mhz cpu and 384Mb RAM.

I also have an ATI Xpert@Play98 graphics card (8Mb) which is not able
to run some recent games which need a 16Mb Graphics card with DirectX
8.1

Also - I'm pretty sure that I have 184 pin DIMMS in my current MB. If
I am upgrading to a new MB, would I be able to re-use them? Can
anyone suggest a MB which supports the AMD Athlon cpu, and will have
at least 3 memory slots?


Most mobos now have at least 3 slots. If you did get a new one you'd want
to buy new faster ram anyway. Depends how much money you have to spend,

if
you do get a new mobo, processor and ram, you'll likely want to get a

better
video card than the FX5200.

HTH

Scott




  #5  
Old February 13th 04, 04:46 PM
scott
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Gavin Bell wrote:
What's wrong with that particular Graphics card?

What one would you recommend, given that I'm on a limited budget?


How much of a budget? I would say for a new mobo, processor and ram you'd
need about £200, and then it would be worth spending up to £100 on the
graphics card too. You'd have a pretty kick-ass system then that would be
capable of playing most of today's games. Of course you can spend more, or
less, but £300 would be about the minimum to get your machine up to specs
required for the new games, and even the games that are a year or two old.

If you're just after games that aren't that new or graphics intensive and
are on a strict budget, I would recommend buying a GF4 Ti4200 from ebay or
something, I think you could get one for £40-£50 and would be best bang for
buck I think.

Scott

Thanks!
"scott" wrote in message
...
Gavin Bell wrote:
Can I attach a new Graphics Card rated at AGP 8X into my (ageing)
motherboard, which only supports 2X AGP ?


Yes, they are backwards compatible. I have just put an 8x card
into my 4x mobo and it's working fine at 4x. Most people say there
isn't any difference between 4x and 8x, not sure about 2x to 4x
though.

Graphics card under consideration -

GeForceFX 5200 128MB DDR AGP RP DVI VO
Available from DABS @ £40.00 inc VAT (£34.05 ex VAT)
manufacturer code I-5200-F3E3V
quicklinx 2GM9WS


My motherboard is a TMC Socket 7 VIA MVP3 ATX board with an AMD
K6-2 500Mhz cpu and 384Mb RAM.

I also have an ATI Xpert@Play98 graphics card (8Mb) which is not
able to run some recent games which need a 16Mb Graphics card
with DirectX
8.1

Also - I'm pretty sure that I have 184 pin DIMMS in my current
MB. If I am upgrading to a new MB, would I be able to re-use
them? Can anyone suggest a MB which supports the AMD Athlon cpu,
and will have at least 3 memory slots?


Most mobos now have at least 3 slots. If you did get a new one
you'd want to buy new faster ram anyway. Depends how much money
you have to spend, if you do get a new mobo, processor and ram,
you'll likely want to get a better video card than the FX5200.

HTH

Scott




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Old February 13th 04, 07:01 PM
BarryNL
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Gavin Bell wrote:
What's wrong with that particular Graphics card?

What one would you recommend, given that I'm on a limited budget?


I'd recommend an FX5200 - perfectly good choice for a limited budget.
Some people just seem to think that if you can't play games at 1600x1200
with full anti-aliasing then its not worth doing.

Considering that AGP cards will be obsolete in a few months anyway its
hardly worth buying an expensive one now.


Thanks!
"scott" wrote in message
...

Gavin Bell wrote:

Can I attach a new Graphics Card rated at AGP 8X into my (ageing)
motherboard, which only supports 2X AGP ?


Yes, they are backwards compatible. I have just put an 8x card into my 4x
mobo and it's working fine at 4x. Most people say there isn't any
difference between 4x and 8x, not sure about 2x to 4x though.


Graphics card under consideration -

GeForceFX 5200 128MB DDR AGP RP DVI VO
Available from DABS @ £40.00 inc VAT (£34.05 ex VAT)
manufacturer code I-5200-F3E3V
quicklinx 2GM9WS


My motherboard is a TMC Socket 7 VIA MVP3 ATX board with an AMD K6-2
500Mhz cpu and 384Mb RAM.

I also have an ATI Xpert@Play98 graphics card (8Mb) which is not able
to run some recent games which need a 16Mb Graphics card with DirectX
8.1

Also - I'm pretty sure that I have 184 pin DIMMS in my current MB. If
I am upgrading to a new MB, would I be able to re-use them? Can
anyone suggest a MB which supports the AMD Athlon cpu, and will have
at least 3 memory slots?


Most mobos now have at least 3 slots. If you did get a new one you'd want
to buy new faster ram anyway. Depends how much money you have to spend,


if

you do get a new mobo, processor and ram, you'll likely want to get a


better

video card than the FX5200.

HTH

Scott






  #7  
Old February 13th 04, 07:11 PM
Sooky Grumper
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BarryNL wrote:

Considering that AGP cards will be obsolete in a few months anyway its
hardly worth buying an expensive one now.


Eh? Wuddideyemiss?

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Old February 13th 04, 07:34 PM
Jay Cousins
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"Gavin Bell" wrote in message ...
Can I attach a new Graphics Card rated at AGP 8X into my (ageing)
motherboard, which only supports 2X AGP ?

Graphics card under consideration -

GeForceFX 5200 128MB DDR AGP RP DVI VO
Available from DABS @ £40.00 inc VAT (£34.05 ex VAT)
manufacturer code I-5200-F3E3V
quicklinx 2GM9WS


My motherboard is a TMC Socket 7 VIA MVP3 ATX board with an AMD K6-2 500Mhz
cpu and 384Mb RAM.

I also have an ATI Xpert@Play98 graphics card (8Mb) which is not able to run
some recent games which need a 16Mb Graphics card with DirectX 8.1

Also - I'm pretty sure that I have 184 pin DIMMS in my current MB. If I am
upgrading to a new MB, would I be able to re-use them? Can anyone suggest a
MB which supports the AMD Athlon cpu, and will have at least 3 memory slots?

Thanks.

Gavin


You are running a socket 7 MB?! I am suprised that you can run a
500MHz processor. I would be really suprised if you had 184pin DIMMS.
A socket 7 is what Pentium 1's Cyrix and AMD K6-2s run in. If you
have DIMMS at all I would say that they were 168 pinn PC66 at best.
As far as the graphics thing goes. I would have to say no. But it
all depends on the video card manufacturer. I haven't seen any cards
that are 8x that are also 2x compatible. Only 4x and 8x. This is
becuase the older AGP cards(2x) are mostly 3.3V and the newer ones are
1.5V. Of cousre this doesn't mean that they exist.
-Jay
  #9  
Old February 14th 04, 04:12 AM
Muttley
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PCI Express......

"Sooky Grumper" wrote in message
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BarryNL wrote:

Considering that AGP cards will be obsolete in a few months anyway its
hardly worth buying an expensive one now.


Eh? Wuddideyemiss?

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Old February 14th 04, 04:14 AM
Muttley
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Look up PCI Express.......

"Larc" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 20:01:45 +0100, BarryNL pondered exceedingly, then

took
quill in hand and carefully composed...

| Considering that AGP cards will be obsolete in a few months anyway its
| hardly worth buying an expensive one now.

???

Larc



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