Sempron warning

Wes Newell wrote:

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:34:27 -0700, Daniel P wrote:

Model: AMD Sempron 2800+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 256KB
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Notice the FSB

I notice it's giving you BS. What else do you want me to notice? :-)
The FSB is integrated into all Socket A cpu's. The cpu won't work without
a FSB. That's how it talks to the MB chipset and gets it data from all
devices. Still, the FSB speed is controlled by by the MB, not the cpu.
Integrated into cpu is just meaningless crap.

Model: AMD Athlon XP 2400+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/256K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Again Notice the FSB

Yep. i notice it's giving you data rates instead of the real FSB speed of
133MHz. Any other BS you want me to notice?:-)

See The Real Front Side Bus in link below.

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This still won't sway me to buy Intel next time. But I will make sure I
do my research on the AMD chips before I do upgrade again. Thanks for
the info.

Bob
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And in the end on wheels we will depend.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._11604,00.html

notice amd say's both socet A & 754 pin? what the deal with that



Wes Newell wrote:
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:42:28 +0000, Wes Newell wrote:


AMDs' acronym for Sempron= Screw Everyone Purchasers Rely On Numbers.


That Should have read, Screw Everyone Most Purchasers Rely On Numbers.

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http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._11604,00.html

notice amd say's both socet A & 754 pin? what the deal with that

It's a mistake!

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http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._11604,00.html

notice amd say's both socet A & 754 pin? what the deal with that

It's a mistake!



How is it a mistake?

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:37:08 +0000, Lukasz Ledochowski wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

match. What is it about this that you don't understand? Do some
research.

I've done some research and I found Sempron 2300+ (1583MHz,
FSB166(333)) cheaper than XP 2000+ (1666, 133(266)). These are
comparable processors and I can't say that this model is to expensive.

Ok, I've found several places that sell the XP 2000+ for $44. The
cheapest Sempron I could find was $60 for a 2400+. The Only 2300+ I found
was $88. So where have you found the Sempron 2300+ for under $44?

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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:56:19 -0500, Bob M wrote:

This still won't sway me to buy Intel next time. But I will make sure I
do my research on the AMD chips before I do upgrade again. Thanks for
the info.

Believe me, I'm not pushing Intel. The last Intel CPU I owned was a 486.:-)

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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:32:01 -0400, crucom wrote:

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._11604,00.html

notice amd say's both socet A & 754 pin? what the deal with that

The deal is that all their so called budget CPU's will get the Sempron
name. The Sempron 3100+ is for socket 754 (and is slower than an A64
2800+). 2800+ and below Semprons are for socket A.

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Wes Newell wrote:

I've done some research and I found Sempron 2300+ (1583MHz,
FSB166(333)) cheaper than XP 2000+ (1666, 133(266)). These are
comparable processors and I can't say that this model is to
expensive.

Ok, I've found several places that sell the XP 2000+ for $44. The
cheapest Sempron I could find was $60 for a 2400+. The Only 2300+ I
found was $88. So where have you found the Sempron 2300+ for under
$44?

It depends on the part of the world you are in I'm in Poland and here
Athlon XP 2000+ and Sempron 2300+ cost about 60 USD. But ok, I agree
that new Sempron line isn't that what i was really waiting for If you
can buy XP 2400+ for 48USD (like www.sharkyextreme.com says) than
Sempron is a product that could never exist.

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yeah ive herad about them changing the name of the duron to the sempron,
just threw me off with the 1800bus. thank you im all ok now, i think but
who knows, lol

thanks for the help


Wes Newell wrote:
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:32:01 -0400, crucom wrote:


http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._11604,00.html

notice amd say's both socet A & 754 pin? what the deal with that


The deal is that all their so called budget CPU's will get the Sempron
name. The Sempron 3100+ is for socket 754 (and is slower than an A64
2800+). 2800+ and below Semprons are for socket A.

Here
http://images10.newegg.com/UploadFil...ng/sempron.htm

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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:34:27 -0700, Daniel P wrote:

Model: AMD Sempron 2800+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 256KB
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Notice the FSB

I notice it's giving you BS. What else do you want me to notice? :-)
The FSB is integrated into all Socket A cpu's. The cpu won't work without
a FSB. That's how it talks to the MB chipset and gets it data from all
devices. Still, the FSB speed is controlled by by the MB, not the cpu.
Integrated into cpu is just meaningless crap.

Model: AMD Athlon XP 2400+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/256K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Again Notice the FSB

Yep. i notice it's giving you data rates instead of the real FSB speed of
133MHz. Any other BS you want me to notice?:-)

See The Real Front Side Bus in link below.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm