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I'm loosing the will to live given this new bit of sh1t ATI/AMD (4350) have
given me, so I'm looking to move to nvidia, all I need is the following, min 512mb passive cooling, tv out (S-VHS, not hdmi) and pcie, and hopefully a bit of software that does not make getting tv out to work a nightmare, does anyone have any suggestions please, and i don't care if it's 2nd hand just want something to work. TIA |
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Jim wrote:
I'm loosing the will to live given this new bit of sh1t ATI/AMD (4350) have given me, so I'm looking to move to nvidia, all I need is the following, min 512mb passive cooling, tv out (S-VHS, not hdmi) and pcie, and hopefully a bit of software that does not make getting tv out to work a nightmare, does anyone have any suggestions please, and i don't care if it's 2nd hand just want something to work. TIA Before you rush off and buy another card, have a look around first. http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-c...rs-tv-out.html I don't know what mode you will be using, but there is a link here with details. "Full Screen Video Mirror option is not present in the NVIDIA Forceware display properties" https://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...ted=1169076830 Does that cover using a TV as the only monitor ? I don't know. ******* If you want to spend more money, there is always a converter box. I went looking here, because they have customer reviews. http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Composite...ref=pd_sim_e_1 "The image converted is not crystal clear nor crispy sharp, but nothing that would ruin your day." A Canadian supplier claimed to carry this, but it was out of stock. http://www.lenkeng.net/Html/Product/...Converter.html ******* You can try the advanced search box here, then select the "TV-Out" option you want, and see what kind of cards are available. The selection isn't that good. http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCateg...cs-Video-Cards I generally like to see the manufacturer include video cables, as some kind of proof the video might work. No cables for TV on this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500115 HTH, Paul |
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"Paul" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: I'm loosing the will to live given this new bit of sh1t ATI/AMD (4350) have given me, so I'm looking to move to nvidia, all I need is the following, min 512mb passive cooling, tv out (S-VHS, not hdmi) and pcie, and hopefully a bit of software that does not make getting tv out to work a nightmare, does anyone have any suggestions please, and i don't care if it's 2nd hand just want something to work. TIA Before you rush off and buy another card, have a look around first. http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-c...rs-tv-out.html I don't know what mode you will be using, but there is a link here with details. "Full Screen Video Mirror option is not present in the NVIDIA Forceware display properties" https://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...ted=1169076830 Does that cover using a TV as the only monitor ? I don't know. ******* If you want to spend more money, there is always a converter box. I went looking here, because they have customer reviews. http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Composite...ref=pd_sim_e_1 "The image converted is not crystal clear nor crispy sharp, but nothing that would ruin your day." A Canadian supplier claimed to carry this, but it was out of stock. http://www.lenkeng.net/Html/Product/...Converter.html ******* You can try the advanced search box here, then select the "TV-Out" option you want, and see what kind of cards are available. The selection isn't that good. http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCateg...cs-Video-Cards I generally like to see the manufacturer include video cables, as some kind of proof the video might work. No cables for TV on this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500115 HTH, Paul Jesus what is wrong with these companies, all i want is to be able to watch simple video files from my pc to my old crt tv, yet it seems i want the impossible |
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Jim wrote:
"Paul" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: I'm loosing the will to live given this new bit of sh1t ATI/AMD (4350) have given me, so I'm looking to move to nvidia, all I need is the following, min 512mb passive cooling, tv out (S-VHS, not hdmi) and pcie, and hopefully a bit of software that does not make getting tv out to work a nightmare, does anyone have any suggestions please, and i don't care if it's 2nd hand just want something to work. TIA Before you rush off and buy another card, have a look around first. http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-c...rs-tv-out.html I don't know what mode you will be using, but there is a link here with details. "Full Screen Video Mirror option is not present in the NVIDIA Forceware display properties" https://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...ted=1169076830 Does that cover using a TV as the only monitor ? I don't know. ******* If you want to spend more money, there is always a converter box. I went looking here, because they have customer reviews. http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Composite...ref=pd_sim_e_1 "The image converted is not crystal clear nor crispy sharp, but nothing that would ruin your day." A Canadian supplier claimed to carry this, but it was out of stock. http://www.lenkeng.net/Html/Product/...Converter.html ******* You can try the advanced search box here, then select the "TV-Out" option you want, and see what kind of cards are available. The selection isn't that good. http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCateg...cs-Video-Cards I generally like to see the manufacturer include video cables, as some kind of proof the video might work. No cables for TV on this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500115 HTH, Paul Jesus what is wrong with these companies, all i want is to be able to watch simple video files from my pc to my old crt tv, yet it seems i want the impossible I think you can thank Hollywood for this. I've had Composite output running on some of my older systems, and the TV just wasn't very good (the weak link). So far, using the stuff I own, I got my best results using a Radio Shack modulator - which means take the working Composite signal, run it into the Radio Shack modulator, run a 75 ohm coax to the RF input on the TV, and tune the TV to channel 3 or channel 4. I actually get a better picture that way, than straight composite. Composite really sucks, as far as I'm concerned. I haven't run into many people who have as much trouble with this, as I do. Paul |
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 21:11:04 -0000, "Jim"
wrote: I'm loosing the will to live given this new bit of sh1t ATI/AMD (4350) have given me, so I'm looking to move to nvidia, all I need is the following, min 512mb passive cooling, tv out (S-VHS, not hdmi) and pcie, and hopefully a bit of software that does not make getting tv out to work a nightmare, does anyone have any suggestions please, and i don't care if it's 2nd hand just want something to work. TIA I don't think you'll be able to find a recent card that does S-VHS out. Time to upgrade your TV. |
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On 03/24/11 07:18, Jim wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e=2953%3A18921 Dude, tinyurl.com! |
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Jim wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e=2953%3A18921 Hmmm. This is interesting. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...tem=14-150-354 "phazed 10/28/2010 7:31:42 PM Sub-par s-video output Cons: The s-video output is just awful (flicker and overall quality) and the card seems a little over-priced. nVidia's drivers also don't have much in the way of support for tweaking s-video output. Other Thoughts: I built a small HTPC for the guest bedroom which has an old 26" Sony CRT TV. The lower end ATI cards (I have a 2400pro and a 4350 with svideo) put out a nearly flicker-free, high quality and very adjustable picture. However, they are pretty bad at any gaming and AFAIK, no video decoders take special advantage of ATI's hardware... so I found one of the very few nVidia cards out that's also fanless but has CUDA for CoreCodec acceleration. I know svideo is obsolete, but if nvidia is going to support it (even if only on low end cards) then it should be better prepared to eliminate the flicker that is inherent to that type of output... as well as being able to manage screen size and positioning (overscan, etc.). It has very limited ability to do this and the acceleration advantage from CUDA assisted decoding just isn't worth the inferior picture. The other outputs on the card work fine, but I bought it specifically for svideo out." Looks like an "uphill road ahead" :-( Paul |
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Jim wrote:
"Paul" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: I'm loosing the will to live given this new bit of sh1t ATI/AMD (4350) have given me, so I'm looking to move to nvidia, all I need is the following, min 512mb passive cooling, tv out (S-VHS, not hdmi) and pcie, and hopefully a bit of software that does not make getting tv out to work a nightmare, does anyone have any suggestions please, and i don't care if it's 2nd hand just want something to work. TIA Before you rush off and buy another card, have a look around first. http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-c...rs-tv-out.html I don't know what mode you will be using, but there is a link here with details. "Full Screen Video Mirror option is not present in the NVIDIA Forceware display properties" https://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...ted=1169076830 Does that cover using a TV as the only monitor ? I don't know. ******* If you want to spend more money, there is always a converter box. I went looking here, because they have customer reviews. http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Composite...ref=pd_sim_e_1 "The image converted is not crystal clear nor crispy sharp, but nothing that would ruin your day." A Canadian supplier claimed to carry this, but it was out of stock. http://www.lenkeng.net/Html/Product/...Converter.html ******* You can try the advanced search box here, then select the "TV-Out" option you want, and see what kind of cards are available. The selection isn't that good. http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCateg...cs-Video-Cards I generally like to see the manufacturer include video cables, as some kind of proof the video might work. No cables for TV on this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500115 HTH, Paul Jesus what is wrong with these companies, all i want is to be able to watch simple video files from my pc to my old crt tv, yet it seems i want the impossible I tried a little experiment here. I mentioned having problems getting good color on a TV set, over Composite. So I decided to connect the TV-output of my 7900GT, to the Composite Input on my WinTV capture card. To cut the TV out of the loop. Now, one thing I noticed, is in Windows, with a relatively recent Nvidia driver, I could get 800x600 for the TV resolution setting, but there was no option to select 640x480 (which is a typical capture resolution for my WinTV card with BT878 chip). So instead of using Windows, I installed Ubuntu 10.10 on a spare hard drive, and installed the Nvidia Linux driver (260? , with binary blob). Ubuntu has a restricted driver install option, to make it easy to put a real Nvidia Linux driver in place. Once that was done (took a couple hours, mainly lots of downloading), I set up TwinView, with my 1280x1024 LCD on the left, and 640x480 TV-out on the right. I ran a cable from the TV-out to the WinTV card, using an S-video to Composite adapter. The desktop surface looks roughly like this in Twinview mode. +-----------+--------+ | | | | | | | +--------+ | | +-----------+ Using a program called TVTime, I simultaneously display the captured output of the TV signal, in a window on the LCD. So it looks like this. The tiny window on the left, is supposed to be "what the TV would see", as represented by the WinTV capture. +-----------+--------+ | +-----+ | | | | | | | | +-----+ +--------+ | | +-----------+ Next, I fired up Totem movie player, and started a DVD playing. I slid the player, with the mouse, so it was fully within the 640x480 area. I right-moused and selected "full screen" mode. That causes the movie output to fill the 640x480 area on the right. Then, using TVtime, I could view the movie, as it is being captured with the WinTV card (BT878, about 20MB/sec capture rate). Then, I used gnome-screenshot, to make a copy of what is stored in the two frame buffers (left and right), at some instant in time. Since there isn't synchronism between all of the activities, there tends to be a "tear" in the image. In any case, you can compare what is stored in the frame buffer, on the right, versus what comes back in on the left. The left-most image, as rendered in TVtime, doesn't seem to be the 640x480 I was expecting. There is a bit of a difference in scale. In any case, you can compare the color and sharpness. It's possible the WinTV levels are off a bit, which could account for some of the color shift, but I tend to think we're seeing the gamma of the Nvidia in action on the TV-output. (No guarantee how long they'll leave this here...) http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2600/tvoutput.png The bottom two example captures, show the dialog box used to set up TwinView in Ubuntu. You can see how TV is a poor means of displaying text, and the text is looking pretty bad on the bottom left image, near the bottom of the dialog box. The movie, as viewed that way, is acceptable. It's not a good piece of source to begin with (it's a capture of the movie from a VCR). The real question would be, how bad would it look on a much larger screen. I don't have any ATI cards, like the one you were having problems with, so I can't repeat this with another card. The most modern ATI I have, is an AGP one from way back. The 7900GT isn't modern either, but at least it has the mini-DIN connector on it for TV-out. It's a PCI Express card. Paul |
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