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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:13:40 UTC, Malev wrote:
Seems like we are back to asking people not to quote the following in case they are harvested by spambots: a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a href="mailto a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a "e-mail a spammer/a a " e-mail a spammer/a I wouldn't dream of it. -- Bob Eager begin by not using Outlook Express... |
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:31:17 +0000, Hammond Organ
wrote: In article , Malev writes On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:43:28 -0000, Anthony Edwards wrote: Indeed yes, I also today received three copies of the Unsolicited Commercial Email in question, sent to email addresses two of which were clearly harvested from Usenet (albeit it would seem, based on the email addresses used, several years ago). Got 2 myself this afternoon. Harvested from an email adress I only used for a fortnight on Usenet in July 2000 Looks like the layoffs mentioned in http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/51/34764.html didn't work. I've always wondered what possessed the former MD, Richard Austin, to step aside and hand control of the company over to the utter halfwit who runs it nowadays. I'd give them until the end of this financial year. |
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In message , Anthony Edwards
writes To be fair to the Advertising Standards Authority, their primary remit is to deal with conventional media advertising rather than email advertising, which probably makes up a very small percentage of the complaints that they handle. The correct place for UK residents to complain to in respect of Privacy and Electronic Communications (EC Directive) Regulations 2003 contraventions is the Information Commissioner's Office. However, in that instance, there does not appear to be an electronic complaint submission mechanism at all. If there were such a form, it would allow people to complain about their own site! http://www.siliconglen.com/usability/commissioner.html -- Craig Cockburn ("coburn"). SiliconGlen.com Ltd. http://SiliconGlen.com Home to the first online guide to Scotland, founded 1994. Scottish FAQ, wedding info, website design, stop spam and more! |
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:43:28 -0000, Anthony Edwards said:
I considered a complaint to the ASA also, however their online complaint form will accept a complaint a maximum of 1500 characters in length, whereas (saving my LART including a copy of one of the Unsolicited Commercial Emails in text format): anthony@catfish:~ wc -m evesham.txt 6338 evesham.txt (i.e. the complaint saved as a text file is 6338 characters in length, of which approximately two thirds of that is the Unsolicited Commercial Email itself) I considered sending a complaint to the ASA by fax, however that constitutes too much hoop jumping to be a desirable option. If the ASA wish to receive complaints concerning unsolicited email advertising, a substantial increase in the number of characters permitted when using the online complaint form would be worthwhile. mailto:enquiriesatasa.org.uk -- Alan J. Wylie http://www.wylie.me.uk/ "Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but rather when there is nothing left to take away." -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery |
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:11:48 +0000, Alan J. Wylie wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:43:28 -0000, Anthony Edwards said: I considered a complaint to the ASA also, however their online complaint form will accept a complaint a maximum of 1500 characters in length, whereas (saving my LART including a copy of one of the Unsolicited Commercial Emails in text format): anthony@catfish:~ wc -m evesham.txt 6338 evesham.txt (i.e. the complaint saved as a text file is 6338 characters in length, of which approximately two thirds of that is the Unsolicited Commercial Email itself) I considered sending a complaint to the ASA by fax, however that constitutes too much hoop jumping to be a desirable option. If the ASA wish to receive complaints concerning unsolicited email advertising, a substantial increase in the number of characters permitted when using the online complaint form would be worthwhile. mailto:enquiriesatasa.org.uk True, however it clearly states at the "Contact Us" page of the ASA site that complaints must be made in one of two formats (by letter, or using the online complaints form that one later discovers has a 1500 character maximum limit) and that their email facility is for contact "for any other reason". I therefore conclude that transmission of a 6338 character emailed complaint would be itself abusive, and I am of the opinion that fighting abuse with abuse, however tempting that might at times seem (and I realise I am being to an extent pedantic here, but I believe it to be an important principle) is simply wrong, and in addition almost always counter-productive. -- Anthony Edwards |
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Anthony Edwards wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 16:17:05 +0000, Andy wrote: In message , Chris Owen wrote snip And what do I find amongst today's bodily-extensions? promotions at eveshamtechnology dot info seeking to extend my knowledge of the Evolution Blue Beast. Thanks for the heads up - I'd missed it amongst all the MyDoom traffic. ASA informed; watch this space. and from me, including pointed remarks about Evesham being repeat offenders.. Indeed yes, I also today received three copies of the Unsolicited Commercial Email in question, sent to email addresses two of which were clearly harvested from Usenet (albeit it would seem, based on the email addresses used, several years ago). LARTs sent to Energis UK (the UCE was apparently sent from an Energis UK supplied routed subnet) and GX Networks UK Ltd (who provide and to them as well Internet connectivity to the "spamvertised" web site). I considered a complaint to the ASA also, however their online complaint form will accept a complaint a maximum of 1500 characters in length, whereas (saving my LART including a copy of one of the Unsolicited Commercial Emails in text format): You can at least upload files with your complaint - no limit there AFAIK (Yes, I know forwarding emails would be much more convenient, but at least they're not as bad in this area as the IC's office). Cheers Graham -- Isn't it wonderful to think that one day this tiny acorn will grow into a mighty ash. |
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In message , Sonia
writes Snip I've always wondered what possessed the former MD, Richard Austin, to step aside and hand control of the company over to the utter halfwit who runs it nowadays. I'd give them until the end of this financial year. I'd say end of this FY, the way they are carrying on. -- Alan |
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In message , Andy
writes: ASA informed; watch this space. Thanks. I am developing a hatred for these folk... -- Jim Crowther "It's MY computer" (tm SMG) Avoid more swen by dumping your old Usenet addresses, and put 'spam' or 'delete' somewhere in the Reply-to: header. Help yourself avoid the spam: http://keir.net/k9.html |
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Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
A possibility would be to place a copy of UCE on a web page, and include the URL in the ADA form. OTOH, that may also constitute excessive hoop jumping, and also could be argued to breach the spammer's copyright. That's what I ended up doing the first time (although I printed the spams to pdf and then pushed the pdf onto a web site) |
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As an aside I've pointed Mike Magee from theinquirer to this thread. As
he so kindly rediculed Evesham for their inital spam, pointed the finger at gxn for list washing (remember people, cull your address from complaints send to gxn) and laughed at the ASA wrist slapping lets hope he can get his big journalist stick out again. Hi Mike |
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