If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
I just bought a firestick
On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 16:10:28 -0500, Seymore4Head wrote:
On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 20:29:50 +0000 (GMT), "Rodney Pont" wrote: On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 14:37:19 -0500, Seymore4Head wrote: It's a shame that Cat5 can't use piggyback connections. It would be nice to share one Cat 5 between devices as I wouldn't ever be using both devices at the same time. You can send several connections at once down cat5 if you are using it for ethernet, you just need a switch (or even a hub) at the tv end to connect both devices. Your incoming cat5 goes into one port and you have two short cables to connect to your two devices, just as you do with a USB hub. You can just unplug one and plug in the other if you wish as well but that will wear out the connections before very long. I knew that you could use a hub. I was thinking more along the lines of something like a phone splitter. It would be nice if devices came with an in and an out like a modem used to. Actually I guess modems still do that, but I haven't used one in ages. They are something like a phone spitter but you need electronics in the box to do it. All ports are in and out and if you get a gigabit switch it will sort out which way the wiring is itself and they are not expensive. Have a look at those here to get an idea of what you can get; https://www.cclonline.com/category/5...Switches-Hubs/ Then find a supplier in your country. Don't forget the two patch leads to connect your equipment up with. -- Faster, cheaper, quieter than HS2 and built in 5 years; UKUltraspeed http://www.500kmh.com/ |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
I just bought a firestick
"Seymore4Head" wrote in message ... On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 20:29:50 +0000 (GMT), "Rodney Pont" wrote: On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 14:37:19 -0500, Seymore4Head wrote: It's a shame that Cat5 can't use piggyback connections. It would be nice to share one Cat 5 between devices as I wouldn't ever be using both devices at the same time. You can send several connections at once down cat5 if you are using it for ethernet, you just need a switch (or even a hub) at the tv end to connect both devices. Your incoming cat5 goes into one port and you have two short cables to connect to your two devices, just as you do with a USB hub. You can just unplug one and plug in the other if you wish as well but that will wear out the connections before very long. I knew that you could use a hub. I was thinking more along the lines of something like a phone splitter. It would be nice if devices came with an in and an out like a modem used to. Actually I guess modems still do that, but I haven't used one in ages. There is a splitter made (actually, many): https://www.amazon.com/Insten-Ethernet-Splitter-Connector-Adapter/dp/B003C2QS90 You can only use one device at a time, though. Check out the customer image gallery and it shows how you use two splitters with one cable; maybe that would work. You would have one splitter near your router with two ports connected to it, then the cable that goes to your TV is plugged into the 2nd splitter, and then the TV and Firestick, like this: https://cdn.instructables.com/FQP/430D/O1NEP27ZK4R/FQP430DO1NEP27ZK4R.LARGE.jpg I'm assuming both devices can be used at the same time using that method. My assumption is that each "side" of the splitter uses two different pairs in order to avoid traffic collisions :-) -- SC Tom |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
I just bought a firestick
SC Tom wrote:
"Seymore4Head" wrote in message ... On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 20:29:50 +0000 (GMT), "Rodney Pont" wrote: On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 14:37:19 -0500, Seymore4Head wrote: It's a shame that Cat5 can't use piggyback connections. It would be nice to share one Cat 5 between devices as I wouldn't ever be using both devices at the same time. You can send several connections at once down cat5 if you are using it for ethernet, you just need a switch (or even a hub) at the tv end to connect both devices. Your incoming cat5 goes into one port and you have two short cables to connect to your two devices, just as you do with a USB hub. You can just unplug one and plug in the other if you wish as well but that will wear out the connections before very long. I knew that you could use a hub. I was thinking more along the lines of something like a phone splitter. It would be nice if devices came with an in and an out like a modem used to. Actually I guess modems still do that, but I haven't used one in ages. There is a splitter made (actually, many): https://www.amazon.com/Insten-Ethernet-Splitter-Connector-Adapter/dp/B003C2QS90 You can only use one device at a time, though. Check out the customer image gallery and it shows how you use two splitters with one cable; maybe that would work. You would have one splitter near your router with two ports connected to it, then the cable that goes to your TV is plugged into the 2nd splitter, and then the TV and Firestick, like this: https://cdn.instructables.com/FQP/430D/O1NEP27ZK4R/FQP430DO1NEP27ZK4R.LARGE.jpg I'm assuming both devices can be used at the same time using that method. My assumption is that each "side" of the splitter uses two different pairs in order to avoid traffic collisions :-) GbE uses eight wires. Modern cables you might buy have the eight wires inside. Four pairs. 10/100BT, you could use that with four wires. 1,2,3,6. There might have been cables, more popular years ago, with only the four wires in it. If you had an Ethernet cable that "seemed thinner", that could be a reason why. When I put 10/100BT on my last Ethernet project at work, I was only using four of the wires, and the other four were unused. So if you start with an eight wire cable, re-jig the pinout, you should be able to make two "1,2,3,6" RJ45 ports out of it and carry two 100BT connections independent of one another. Each could be full duplex in its own right, since one pair is TX, and the other pair RX. A 10/100/1000 interface on a motherboard, can detect that only 1,2,3,6 are wired, and it will automatically negotiate 100BT full duplex given a chance. This gives 12.5MB/sec on each interface, and in both directions. If 12.5MB/sec is enough for your application, then "go for it" :-) Paul |
#14
|
|||
|
|||
I just bought a firestick
On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 08:31:16 -0500, "SC Tom" wrote:
"Seymore4Head" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 20:29:50 +0000 (GMT), "Rodney Pont" wrote: On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 14:37:19 -0500, Seymore4Head wrote: It's a shame that Cat5 can't use piggyback connections. It would be nice to share one Cat 5 between devices as I wouldn't ever be using both devices at the same time. You can send several connections at once down cat5 if you are using it for ethernet, you just need a switch (or even a hub) at the tv end to connect both devices. Your incoming cat5 goes into one port and you have two short cables to connect to your two devices, just as you do with a USB hub. You can just unplug one and plug in the other if you wish as well but that will wear out the connections before very long. I knew that you could use a hub. I was thinking more along the lines of something like a phone splitter. It would be nice if devices came with an in and an out like a modem used to. Actually I guess modems still do that, but I haven't used one in ages. There is a splitter made (actually, many): https://www.amazon.com/Insten-Ethernet-Splitter-Connector-Adapter/dp/B003C2QS90 You can only use one device at a time, though. Check out the customer image gallery and it shows how you use two splitters with one cable; maybe that would work. You would have one splitter near your router with two ports connected to it, then the cable that goes to your TV is plugged into the 2nd splitter, and then the TV and Firestick, like this: https://cdn.instructables.com/FQP/430D/O1NEP27ZK4R/FQP430DO1NEP27ZK4R.LARGE.jpg I'm assuming both devices can be used at the same time using that method. My assumption is that each "side" of the splitter uses two different pairs in order to avoid traffic collisions :-) I asked my niece how often they use the Firestick and she said not much so I guess we won't be cutting the cable TV cord and I probably will not worry about the buffering issue. It is interesting that you can split the Cat5 as I had always heard that it would not work. The thing I had in mind was something that had a 3 port female similar to the item you link to. If it was a 3 port female you would be able to split the connection at the device side instead of splitting it at the router. |
#15
|
|||
|
|||
I just bought a firestick
"Seymore4Head" wrote in message ... On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 08:31:16 -0500, "SC Tom" wrote: "Seymore4Head" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 20:29:50 +0000 (GMT), "Rodney Pont" wrote: On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 14:37:19 -0500, Seymore4Head wrote: It's a shame that Cat5 can't use piggyback connections. It would be nice to share one Cat 5 between devices as I wouldn't ever be using both devices at the same time. You can send several connections at once down cat5 if you are using it for ethernet, you just need a switch (or even a hub) at the tv end to connect both devices. Your incoming cat5 goes into one port and you have two short cables to connect to your two devices, just as you do with a USB hub. You can just unplug one and plug in the other if you wish as well but that will wear out the connections before very long. I knew that you could use a hub. I was thinking more along the lines of something like a phone splitter. It would be nice if devices came with an in and an out like a modem used to. Actually I guess modems still do that, but I haven't used one in ages. There is a splitter made (actually, many): https://www.amazon.com/Insten-Ethernet-Splitter-Connector-Adapter/dp/B003C2QS90 You can only use one device at a time, though. Check out the customer image gallery and it shows how you use two splitters with one cable; maybe that would work. You would have one splitter near your router with two ports connected to it, then the cable that goes to your TV is plugged into the 2nd splitter, and then the TV and Firestick, like this: https://cdn.instructables.com/FQP/430D/O1NEP27ZK4R/FQP430DO1NEP27ZK4R.LARGE.jpg I'm assuming both devices can be used at the same time using that method. My assumption is that each "side" of the splitter uses two different pairs in order to avoid traffic collisions :-) I asked my niece how often they use the Firestick and she said not much so I guess we won't be cutting the cable TV cord and I probably will not worry about the buffering issue. It is interesting that you can split the Cat5 as I had always heard that it would not work. The thing I had in mind was something that had a 3 port female similar to the item you link to. If it was a 3 port female you would be able to split the connection at the device side instead of splitting it at the router. You don't have to cut your existing cable; the adapter I linked has a female-in for the existing e'net cable, then uses two patch cables at the TV/Firestick. The wiring is already set-up inside the adapter to assign which pairs where. Same for the router end; it's just that you would now occupy two ports instead of one. I think it's similar to a phone splitter for two numbers- pairs A & B for 555-0001 and pairs C & D for 555-0002 :-) (Over-simplified explanation, of course; I don't want to hear back from any CenturyLink techies, LOL!) As Paul posted, you're limited 100Mb. Here's a better explanation (with pictures. I love pictures, LOL!) using a similar, less expensive pair. The picture about 1/3 down the page has the internal wiring diagram: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076MNTV22/ref=psdc_3230976011_t2_B074VZ236M Do you mean like a 3-port router (or 2 LAN + 1 WAN) at the TV? There's something like this: https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/ or http://www.cyberdata.net/voip/011236v/ (Click on the Installation tab for typical setups.) I'm sure you could get a 4- or 5-port cheap on ebay instead of $100 for the Ubiquiti, or $70 for the CyberData. -- SC Tom |
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Just bought an All-in-Wonder HD | Tom Rapner | Ati Videocards | 5 | January 9th 09 08:47 AM |
just bought new PC | [email protected] | General | 5 | April 27th 06 05:03 PM |
What have I bought? | Anders Eriksson | Acer Computers | 2 | October 21st 05 06:40 AM |
Yay just bought new pc | Olav Rekve | General | 7 | March 9th 05 11:53 AM |
My Dad bought a new CPU | Hawkboy | Overclocking AMD Processors | 5 | January 15th 04 07:04 PM |