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HP LaserJet 2200DN -- dirty mark on second side
If I print in duplex mode, I get a dirty mark across the page on the
second side. It's the same whether I print from the tray or from the manual feed. Could this be a cartridge problem? It's a years-old remanufactured cartridge, but the dirty marks have only just appeared. Reliable cartridges now seem to be somewhat scarce and expensive. Would it be more economical in the long run just to buy a new printer with cheaper cartridges? Brother? Samsung? Perce |
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HP LaserJet 2200DN -- dirty mark on second side
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"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote: If I print in duplex mode, I get a dirty mark across the page on the second side. It's the same whether I print from the tray or from the manual feed. Could this be a cartridge problem? It's a years-old remanufactured cartridge, but the dirty marks have only just appeared. Reliable cartridges now seem to be somewhat scarce and expensive. Would it be more economical in the long run just to buy a new printer with cheaper cartridges? Brother? Samsung? Perce- It sounds like the dirty marks are coming from the mechanism that turns the page over for duplex printing. Chances are you can clean the printer and eliminate the problem. But if the dirty mark returns, it might be caused by toner leaking from a worn-out cartridge. I have had good luck with both HP and Brother. Not familiar with Samsung. NOTE: Smaller cartridges are usually more expensive per page printed. Fred |
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HP LaserJet 2200DN -- dirty mark on second side
On 07/01/2017 11:18 AM, Fred McKenzie wrote:
If I print in duplex mode, I get a dirty mark across the page on the second side. It's the same whether I print from the tray or from the manual feed. Could this be a cartridge problem? It's a years-old remanufactured cartridge, but the dirty marks have only just appeared. Reliable cartridges now seem to be somewhat scarce and expensive. Would it be more economical in the long run just to buy a new printer with cheaper cartridges? Brother? Samsung? It sounds like the dirty marks are coming from the mechanism that turns the page over for duplex printing. Chances are you can clean the printer and eliminate the problem. But if the dirty mark returns, it might be caused by toner leaking from a worn-out cartridge. I have had good luck with both HP and Brother. Not familiar with Samsung. NOTE: Smaller cartridges are usually more expensive per page printed. Sorry, Fred, I only just saw your reply. In the meantime I bought a new (remanufactured) cartridge, which certainly produces blacker copies but does not eliminate the smudge, so I think you are right about the problem being in the duplexer mechanism. Now to figure out how to get at it. I did look at Brother laser printers but found that the cartridges are not as cheap as I had imagined. Perce |
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HP LaserJet 2200DN -- dirty mark on second side
On 07/13/2017 12:08 PM, I wrote:
If I print in duplex mode, I get a dirty mark across the page on the second side. It's the same whether I print from the tray or from the manual feed. Could this be a cartridge problem? It's a years-old remanufactured cartridge, but the dirty marks have only just appeared. Reliable cartridges now seem to be somewhat scarce and expensive. Would it be more economical in the long run just to buy a new printer with cheaper cartridges? Brother? Samsung? It sounds like the dirty marks are coming from the mechanism that turns the page over for duplex printing. Chances are you can clean the printer and eliminate the problem. But if the dirty mark returns, it might be caused by toner leaking from a worn-out cartridge. I have had good luck with both HP and Brother. Not familiar with Samsung. NOTE: Smaller cartridges are usually more expensive per page printed. Sorry, Fred, I only just saw your reply. In the meantime I bought a new (remanufactured) cartridge, which certainly produces blacker copies but does not eliminate the smudge, so I think you are right about the problem being in the duplexer mechanism. Now to figure out how to get at it. I did look at Brother laser printers but found that the cartridges are not as cheap as I had imagined. Getting at the roller that is involved in duplex printing seems to require major disassembly of the printer. Are there laser-printer cleaning sheets that will work with a duplex printer? I have some sheets that consist of very thick and stiff paper with some somewhat sticky bands on one side, but they get jammed if I try duplex printing. Perce |
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HP LaserJet 2200DN -- dirty mark on second side
"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote:
On 07/13/2017 12:08 PM, I wrote: If I print in duplex mode, I get a dirty mark across the page on the second side. It's the same whether I print from the tray or from the manual feed. Could this be a cartridge problem? It's a years-old remanufactured cartridge, but the dirty marks have only just appeared. Reliable cartridges now seem to be somewhat scarce and expensive. Would it be more economical in the long run just to buy a new printer with cheaper cartridges? Brother? Samsung? It sounds like the dirty marks are coming from the mechanism that turns the page over for duplex printing. Chances are you can clean the printer and eliminate the problem. But if the dirty mark returns, it might be caused by toner leaking from a worn-out cartridge. I have had good luck with both HP and Brother. Not familiar with Samsung. NOTE: Smaller cartridges are usually more expensive per page printed. Sorry, Fred, I only just saw your reply. In the meantime I bought a new (remanufactured) cartridge, which certainly produces blacker copies but does not eliminate the smudge, so I think you are right about the problem being in the duplexer mechanism. Now to figure out how to get at it. I did look at Brother laser printers but found that the cartridges are not as cheap as I had imagined. Getting at the roller that is involved in duplex printing seems to require major disassembly of the printer. Are there laser-printer cleaning sheets that will work with a duplex printer? I have some sheets that consist of very thick and stiff paper with some somewhat sticky bands on one side, but they get jammed if I try duplex printing. Perce I am not aware of any cleaning paper of that sort, but as a word of caution be very careful to not use any coated paper in laser printers unless it is specifically stated as being suitable for laser printers or photocopiers. To do so risks damage to the fuser. Tony |
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HP LaserJet 2200DN -- dirty mark on second side
On 07/13/2017 08:39 PM, Tony wrote:
If I print in duplex mode, I get a dirty mark across the page on the second side. It's the same whether I print from the tray or from the manual feed. Could this be a cartridge problem? It's a years-old remanufactured cartridge, but the dirty marks have only just appeared. Reliable cartridges now seem to be somewhat scarce and expensive. Would it be more economical in the long run just to buy a new printer with cheaper cartridges? Brother? Samsung? It sounds like the dirty marks are coming from the mechanism that turns the page over for duplex printing. Chances are you can clean the printer and eliminate the problem. But if the dirty mark returns, it might be caused by toner leaking from a worn-out cartridge. I have had good luck with both HP and Brother. Not familiar with Samsung. NOTE: Smaller cartridges are usually more expensive per page printed. Sorry, Fred, I only just saw your reply. In the meantime I bought a new (remanufactured) cartridge, which certainly produces blacker copies but does not eliminate the smudge, so I think you are right about the problem being in the duplexer mechanism. Now to figure out how to get at it. I did look at Brother laser printers but found that the cartridges are not as cheap as I had imagined. Getting at the roller that is involved in duplex printing seems to require major disassembly of the printer. Are there laser-printer cleaning sheets that will work with a duplex printer? I have some sheets that consist of very thick and stiff paper with some somewhat sticky bands on one side, but they get jammed if I try duplex printing. Perce I am not aware of any cleaning paper of that sort, but as a word of caution be very careful to not use any coated paper in laser printers unless it is specifically stated as being suitable for laser printers or photocopiers. To do so risks damage to the fuser. It's the same stuff I used for the LaserJet III (which was not a duplex printer, of course) many years back, and it claims to be specifically for laser printers, copiers, and FAX machines. Let me give a more detailed description of the problem: Double-sided 8.5" x 14.0" prints have a grayish line the full width of the page (but not uniform density across the page) on the second side a couple of inches from the end "outer" end, i.e., the end that entered the printer last. Double-sided 8.5" x 11.0" prints have the same line, but a little closer to the end of the page. As far as I can see the only full-width rollers are the black one that is visible when the toner cartridge is removed, and a reddish-brown one that is visible when I open the back to allow paper to collect at the back -- but then there is no duplex print capability. That latter roller looks perfectly clean to me but is not easily accessible. Perce |
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HP LaserJet 2200DN -- dirty mark on second side
"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote:
On 07/13/2017 08:39 PM, Tony wrote: If I print in duplex mode, I get a dirty mark across the page on the second side. It's the same whether I print from the tray or from the manual feed. Could this be a cartridge problem? It's a years-old remanufactured cartridge, but the dirty marks have only just appeared. Reliable cartridges now seem to be somewhat scarce and expensive. Would it be more economical in the long run just to buy a new printer with cheaper cartridges? Brother? Samsung? It sounds like the dirty marks are coming from the mechanism that turns the page over for duplex printing. Chances are you can clean the printer and eliminate the problem. But if the dirty mark returns, it might be caused by toner leaking from a worn-out cartridge. I have had good luck with both HP and Brother. Not familiar with Samsung. NOTE: Smaller cartridges are usually more expensive per page printed. Sorry, Fred, I only just saw your reply. In the meantime I bought a new (remanufactured) cartridge, which certainly produces blacker copies but does not eliminate the smudge, so I think you are right about the problem being in the duplexer mechanism. Now to figure out how to get at it. I did look at Brother laser printers but found that the cartridges are not as cheap as I had imagined. Getting at the roller that is involved in duplex printing seems to require major disassembly of the printer. Are there laser-printer cleaning sheets that will work with a duplex printer? I have some sheets that consist of very thick and stiff paper with some somewhat sticky bands on one side, but they get jammed if I try duplex printing. Perce I am not aware of any cleaning paper of that sort, but as a word of caution be very careful to not use any coated paper in laser printers unless it is specifically stated as being suitable for laser printers or photocopiers. To do so risks damage to the fuser. It's the same stuff I used for the LaserJet III (which was not a duplex printer, of course) many years back, and it claims to be specifically for laser printers, copiers, and FAX machines. Let me give a more detailed description of the problem: Double-sided 8.5" x 14.0" prints have a grayish line the full width of the page (but not uniform density across the page) on the second side a couple of inches from the end "outer" end, i.e., the end that entered the printer last. Double-sided 8.5" x 11.0" prints have the same line, but a little closer to the end of the page. As far as I can see the only full-width rollers are the black one that is visible when the toner cartridge is removed, and a reddish-brown one that is visible when I open the back to allow paper to collect at the back -- but then there is no duplex print capability. That latter roller looks perfectly clean to me but is not easily accessible. Perce Are the distances from the short edge of the paper always exactly the same or do they vary? In other words the distance from the bottom of the page to the marks - are they always the same? Tony |
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HP LaserJet 2200DN -- dirty mark on second side
On 07/14/2017 12:44 AM, Tony wrote:
If I print in duplex mode, I get a dirty mark across the page on the second side. It's the same whether I print from the tray or from the manual feed. Could this be a cartridge problem? It's a years-old remanufactured cartridge, but the dirty marks have only just appeared. Reliable cartridges now seem to be somewhat scarce and expensive. Would it be more economical in the long run just to buy a new printer with cheaper cartridges? Brother? Samsung? It sounds like the dirty marks are coming from the mechanism that turns the page over for duplex printing. Chances are you can clean the printer and eliminate the problem. But if the dirty mark returns, it might be caused by toner leaking from a worn-out cartridge. I have had good luck with both HP and Brother. Not familiar with Samsung. NOTE: Smaller cartridges are usually more expensive per page printed. Sorry, Fred, I only just saw your reply. In the meantime I bought a new (remanufactured) cartridge, which certainly produces blacker copies but does not eliminate the smudge, so I think you are right about the problem being in the duplexer mechanism. Now to figure out how to get at it. I did look at Brother laser printers but found that the cartridges are not as cheap as I had imagined. Getting at the roller that is involved in duplex printing seems to require major disassembly of the printer. Are there laser-printer cleaning sheets that will work with a duplex printer? I have some sheets that consist of very thick and stiff paper with some somewhat sticky bands on one side, but they get jammed if I try duplex printing. Perce I am not aware of any cleaning paper of that sort, but as a word of caution be very careful to not use any coated paper in laser printers unless it is specifically stated as being suitable for laser printers or photocopiers. To do so risks damage to the fuser. It's the same stuff I used for the LaserJet III (which was not a duplex printer, of course) many years back, and it claims to be specifically for laser printers, copiers, and FAX machines. Let me give a more detailed description of the problem: Double-sided 8.5" x 14.0" prints have a grayish line the full width of the page (but not uniform density across the page) on the second side a couple of inches from the end "outer" end, i.e., the end that entered the printer last. Double-sided 8.5" x 11.0" prints have the same line, but a little closer to the end of the page. As far as I can see the only full-width rollers are the black one that is visible when the toner cartridge is removed, and a reddish-brown one that is visible when I open the back to allow paper to collect at the back -- but then there is no duplex print capability. That latter roller looks perfectly clean to me but is not easily accessible. Perce Are the distances from the short edge of the paper always exactly the same or do they vary? In other words the distance from the bottom of the page to the marks - are they always the same? Those distances are the same for each print on the given size of paper. And, now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure that that second roller (the reddish-brown one) is involved in pushing the paper out of the back as well. Yes! Verified by watching the paper come out the back. Looking at exploded diagrams at printerworks.com, I see that there is -- as is to be expected -- a roller in the fuser assembly, but that is surely involved in single-sided copies as well, isn't it? AND I had seen this sometimes with the old toner cartridge, but now with the new one as well, the print on the second side is sometimes extremely light, starting from just an inch or so past that gray line. Perce |
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HP LaserJet 2200DN -- dirty mark on second side
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"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote: Getting at the roller that is involved in duplex printing seems to require major disassembly of the printer. Are there laser-printer cleaning sheets that will work with a duplex printer? Perce- You may find the smear fades away as you use the new cartridge. (Also, some special functions are initiated by holding down the keys when you turn on power.) From my 2002 collection, I found a pack of Staples' "12 laser printer cleaning sheets". A number on the label is "X80016-US". The sheets appear thin enough to work with a duplex printer. Looking at staples.com, I find the current product is "17494 Laser Printer Cleaning Kit", three sheets per kit for $9.99. They also have a 17493 kit that includes foam-tipped swabs and cleaning solution for $15.29. The website also mentions PathKleen Printer Cleaning Sheets, 10 for $14.99. Your local office supply store may have their own brand. I see that Office Depot lists theirs, and Walmart lists PathKleen. Fred |
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HP LaserJet 2200DN -- dirty mark on second side
On 07/14/2017 12:38 PM, Fred McKenzie wrote:
Getting at the roller that is involved in duplex printing seems to require major disassembly of the printer. Are there laser-printer cleaning sheets that will work with a duplex printer? Perce- You may find the smear fades away as you use the new cartridge. (Also, some special functions are initiated by holding down the keys when you turn on power.) From my 2002 collection, I found a pack of Staples' "12 laser printer cleaning sheets". A number on the label is "X80016-US". The sheets appear thin enough to work with a duplex printer. Looking at staples.com, I find the current product is "17494 Laser Printer Cleaning Kit", three sheets per kit for $9.99. They also have a 17493 kit that includes foam-tipped swabs and cleaning solution for $15.29. The website also mentions PathKleen Printer Cleaning Sheets, 10 for $14.99. Your local office supply store may have their own brand. I see that Office Depot lists theirs, and Walmart lists PathKleen. PathKleen is what I tried to use -- the ones that jam when I try to use the duplex function. Perce |
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