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Question for paper buyers (buying bulk paper for printing)?
Hello all,
Lets say I wanted to buy 25,000 sheets of 11x17 paper that was a pastel color, around 20 weight, needed to feed a laser. I live in the Pittsburgh area, considering freight charges, state taxes, driving cost & etc: Any suggestions ? Buy local, (where possibly) or via internet. (I tried a search on Google, but got more confused buy the results of "paper pastel 11x17 retail wholesale"). Cost IS the bottom line, but I will pay more (as most would) for dependability & consistence. Paper is heavy, but can it be shipped media mail?, or do other shippers (FedEx/UPS/Trucking Companies allow a discount? Sorry for being vague & too many questions rolled into one. Thanks, DE |
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"DoubleEntendre" wrote in message Paper is heavy, but can it be shipped media mail?, No, it is not media or do other shippers (FedEx/UPS/Trucking Companies allow a discount? Trucking companies go by classification. I don't know what paper is, maybe class 60 or 70 but a phone call or two will tell you. If you know the class freightquotes.com may help. Carriers charge by weight and UPS and FedEx offer no discounts for high density, only penalty for low density, thus dimensional weight. . |
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Question for paper buyers (buying bulk paper for printing)?
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:57:32 -0500, "DoubleEntendre"
wrote: Hello all, Lets say I wanted to buy 25,000 sheets of 11x17 paper that was a pastel color, around 20 weight, needed to feed a laser. I live in the Pittsburgh area, considering freight charges, state taxes, driving cost & etc: That's 10 cartons of 11X17. Any suggestions ? Buy local, (where possibly) or via internet. (I tried a search on Google, but got more confused buy the results of "paper pastel 11x17 retail wholesale"). The freight will kill you. Look in the yellow pages for printing supplies or copier paper or paper store. There are a lot of them around. Cost is about $35/carton, although it is actually computed on the basis of 1,000 sheets. The pastel may have to be a special order. They usually only have one or two cases, if any, of each pastel in 11X17 on the floor. Cost IS the bottom line, but I will pay more (as most would) for dependability & consistence. Paper is heavy, but can it be shipped media mail?, or do other shippers (FedEx/UPS/Trucking Companies allow a discount? Sorry for being vague & too many questions rolled into one. Thanks, DE |
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Question for paper buyers (buying bulk paper for printing)?
I thought this was going to be one of those math problems, if a parcel
has to go from New York to Pittsburgh and it takes 3 hours to get to Trenton, how long will it take to get to Chicago, when it gets even further lost. ;-) I ran a poster company some years back. Obviously, we dealt with a lot of paper movement. Believe it or not, it might be cheaper to buy your paper from a local printer. They already have the connections for both wholesale paper purchases, and shipping to get the best deals. You might be able to piggyback your order on one of theirs, assuming the product is available from one of their regular distributors. Or, they may even carry something similar to your specs. If not, truck or rail/truck is usually less costly with commercial size shipments, and they have the equipment to move this stuff easily. If it can be shipped on a pallet, that could keep your shipping costs lower also, since it can then be moved with a forklift etc. The trade off on getting best price may be further shipping distances, and with gasoline prices up so much, distance adds costs. Also, you want to make absolutely sure you get a good sample (preferably several dozen sheets) to test to make sure the thickness, grain, surface, color and other qualities meet your needs, because you do not want to have to send a shipment of that weight back. Lastly, consider storage space and cost on purchase. If you have to lay out a lot of money on paper you won't be using for months, you may not want to buy it all at once. Also, paper can absorb moisture and become buckled and difficult to print on, can change color over time,, can curl or sag during storage, etc. So, how long it will be held is important and may make you decide to pay a bit more through making several orders over time. Anyway, hope some of this is helpful. DoubleEntendre wrote: Hello all, Lets say I wanted to buy 25,000 sheets of 11x17 paper that was a pastel color, around 20 weight, needed to feed a laser. I live in the Pittsburgh area, considering freight charges, state taxes, driving cost & etc: Any suggestions ? Buy local, (where possibly) or via internet. (I tried a search on Google, but got more confused buy the results of "paper pastel 11x17 retail wholesale"). Cost IS the bottom line, but I will pay more (as most would) for dependability & consistence. Paper is heavy, but can it be shipped media mail?, or do other shippers (FedEx/UPS/Trucking Companies allow a discount? Sorry for being vague & too many questions rolled into one. Thanks, DE |
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Question for paper buyers (buying bulk paper for printing)?
hello DE, the folks at www.thINK4inc.com sell bulk printer paper as well as
bulk ink and photo paper. just use their Contact Us page to get some help from a salesperson. |
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Question for paper buyers (buying bulk paper for printing)?
Thanks to all for the help!
I agree with you. Arthur, buying off the local printer might be the best way. What does he have to lose if I'm being honest with him (1/8 of a loaf is better then none, "adjusted quote by me") My main goal is to make Placemats for Restaurants & the size is more like 11"14/15"or 10"14/15" sooo, I guess I will have to cut them also (another expense unless I buy the paper pre-cut, but then my HP might not adjust to that cut (Hp 8000N). Well, at least I am a few steps up the ladder with all of your help! Sometimes I wonder (and I will scrutinize better in the future) if going with a fair priced printer (haven't found one yet ((but maybe I'm expecting too much)) might be the way to go, even thought I think having my own printer/toner/paper will be cost/time effective. Thanks again for all the help, DE "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:%d2If.490337$2k.227901@pd7tw1no... I thought this was going to be one of those math problems, if a parcel has to go from New York to Pittsburgh and it takes 3 hours to get to Trenton, how long will it take to get to Chicago, when it gets even further lost. ;-) I ran a poster company some years back. Obviously, we dealt with a lot of paper movement. Believe it or not, it might be cheaper to buy your paper from a local printer. They already have the connections for both wholesale paper purchases, and shipping to get the best deals. You might be able to piggyback your order on one of theirs, assuming the product is available from one of their regular distributors. Or, they may even carry something similar to your specs. If not, truck or rail/truck is usually less costly with commercial size shipments, and they have the equipment to move this stuff easily. If it can be shipped on a pallet, that could keep your shipping costs lower also, since it can then be moved with a forklift etc. The trade off on getting best price may be further shipping distances, and with gasoline prices up so much, distance adds costs. Also, you want to make absolutely sure you get a good sample (preferably several dozen sheets) to test to make sure the thickness, grain, surface, color and other qualities meet your needs, because you do not want to have to send a shipment of that weight back. Lastly, consider storage space and cost on purchase. If you have to lay out a lot of money on paper you won't be using for months, you may not want to buy it all at once. Also, paper can absorb moisture and become buckled and difficult to print on, can change color over time,, can curl or sag during storage, etc. So, how long it will be held is important and may make you decide to pay a bit more through making several orders over time. Anyway, hope some of this is helpful. DoubleEntendre wrote: Hello all, Lets say I wanted to buy 25,000 sheets of 11x17 paper that was a pastel color, around 20 weight, needed to feed a laser. I live in the Pittsburgh area, considering freight charges, state taxes, driving cost & etc: Any suggestions ? Buy local, (where possibly) or via internet. (I tried a search on Google, but got more confused buy the results of "paper pastel 11x17 retail wholesale"). Cost IS the bottom line, but I will pay more (as most would) for dependability & consistence. Paper is heavy, but can it be shipped media mail?, or do other shippers (FedEx/UPS/Trucking Companies allow a discount? Sorry for being vague & too many questions rolled into one. Thanks, DE |
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Question for paper buyers (buying bulk paper for printing)?
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DoubleEntendre writes Thanks to all for the help! I agree with you. Arthur, buying off the local printer might be the best way. What does he have to lose if I'm being honest with him (1/8 of a loaf is better then none, "adjusted quote by me") My main goal is to make Placemats for Restaurants & the size is more like 11"14/15"or 10"14/15" sooo, I guess I will have to cut them also (another expense unless I buy the paper pre-cut, but then my HP might not adjust to that cut (Hp 8000N). Well, at least I am a few steps up the ladder with all of your help! Sometimes I wonder (and I will scrutinize better in the future) if going with a fair priced printer (haven't found one yet ((but maybe I'm expecting too much)) might be the way to go, even thought I think having my own printer/toner/paper will be cost/time effective. Having a scan around I found officedepot.com which does free delivery above $50 might be worth looking at. As a first order, I'd be inclined to order a small quantity of several different brands to find a paper/cost combination that you are happy with. -- Timothy |
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Question for paper buyers (buying bulk paper for printing)?
The printing biz has changed considerably over the last few years.
Small run printing has become quite reasonable in price compared to days gone by. When considering color printing costs at home, keep in mind that toner and other consumables can really add up quickly if the item being printer requires major coverage of color. Text is relatively cheap to print die to the amount of "white" space around it, but images can easily use upwards of 20 times more toner, so when making cost calculations consider the real coverage of the printed result. If your printer quotes a cartridge is good for 2000 copies at 5% coverage per color, that could end up declining to 200 copies at 50% coverage. At home printers usually have costly consumables, while commercial printers, even if using the same basic technology often have commercial laser printers or photocopiers where the big expense in ownership of the printer itself and so consumables are priced at very much cheaper costs. For these printers, the printing company is more considered about keeping them running, because they cost so much to own per day and per hour. Consumables become a less important expense in those business models. If you know you are going to develop a business around a printed good, consider making your money on the design and marketing aspects, and try to establish a working relationship with a local printer who can benefit from your repeat business and who might offer you pricing based upon quarterly volume rather than per job costs. With many short run printers, they make digital plates so cost of initial set up is low per item, since there are not actual consumables involved in the print run other than paper and toners/inks. Art DoubleEntendre wrote: Thanks to all for the help! I agree with you. Arthur, buying off the local printer might be the best way. What does he have to lose if I'm being honest with him (1/8 of a loaf is better then none, "adjusted quote by me") My main goal is to make Placemats for Restaurants & the size is more like 11"14/15"or 10"14/15" sooo, I guess I will have to cut them also (another expense unless I buy the paper pre-cut, but then my HP might not adjust to that cut (Hp 8000N). Well, at least I am a few steps up the ladder with all of your help! Sometimes I wonder (and I will scrutinize better in the future) if going with a fair priced printer (haven't found one yet ((but maybe I'm expecting too much)) might be the way to go, even thought I think having my own printer/toner/paper will be cost/time effective. Thanks again for all the help, DE "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:%d2If.490337$2k.227901@pd7tw1no... I thought this was going to be one of those math problems, if a parcel has to go from New York to Pittsburgh and it takes 3 hours to get to Trenton, how long will it take to get to Chicago, when it gets even further lost. ;-) I ran a poster company some years back. Obviously, we dealt with a lot of paper movement. Believe it or not, it might be cheaper to buy your paper from a local printer. They already have the connections for both wholesale paper purchases, and shipping to get the best deals. You might be able to piggyback your order on one of theirs, assuming the product is available from one of their regular distributors. Or, they may even carry something similar to your specs. If not, truck or rail/truck is usually less costly with commercial size shipments, and they have the equipment to move this stuff easily. If it can be shipped on a pallet, that could keep your shipping costs lower also, since it can then be moved with a forklift etc. The trade off on getting best price may be further shipping distances, and with gasoline prices up so much, distance adds costs. Also, you want to make absolutely sure you get a good sample (preferably several dozen sheets) to test to make sure the thickness, grain, surface, color and other qualities meet your needs, because you do not want to have to send a shipment of that weight back. Lastly, consider storage space and cost on purchase. If you have to lay out a lot of money on paper you won't be using for months, you may not want to buy it all at once. Also, paper can absorb moisture and become buckled and difficult to print on, can change color over time,, can curl or sag during storage, etc. So, how long it will be held is important and may make you decide to pay a bit more through making several orders over time. Anyway, hope some of this is helpful. DoubleEntendre wrote: Hello all, Lets say I wanted to buy 25,000 sheets of 11x17 paper that was a pastel color, around 20 weight, needed to feed a laser. I live in the Pittsburgh area, considering freight charges, state taxes, driving cost & etc: Any suggestions ? Buy local, (where possibly) or via internet. (I tried a search on Google, but got more confused buy the results of "paper pastel 11x17 retail wholesale"). Cost IS the bottom line, but I will pay more (as most would) for dependability & consistence. Paper is heavy, but can it be shipped media mail?, or do other shippers (FedEx/UPS/Trucking Companies allow a discount? Sorry for being vague & too many questions rolled into one. Thanks, DE |
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